COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Can California fan palms grow in zone 8B
by Bill Nanaimo- 22 replies
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Hi, Has anyone had any luck growing California fan palms in zone 8B or on east/South Vancouver Island? thanks for any info
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New found land
by Manalto- 1 follower
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My unpaved driveway goes between the house and a big old live oak. Then there's an empty patch of land roughly 35 ft square. Behind that is a clothesline, and at the back of the property is a row of camellias and banana shrub with a Sabal minor understory. A service lane runs between the houses on my street and the next street over. Here's the layout from a second-story window. The property line is between the tall rice paper plants and my neighbor's ramshackle screen house. This primo piece of garden patch in the high dappled shade of the live oak (trunk visible at extreme right of photo) has been, up until now, mostly ignored. Infested with weeds, it oc…
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(Butia x Jubaea) x Syagrus
by smithgn- 1 follower
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Hey everyone, I thought we should start a thread about this specific hybrid. It's a Butia x Jubaea parent hybrid, crossed again with a Syagrus Romanzoffiana. It's most likely a tad less hardy than the Butia x Jubaea hybrid, but then again, we really don't know. I visited my palm friend Gayland Penny, whom I bought the hybrid from, and he told me to go ahead and put it in ground. So I thought, what the heck? Zoomed out a little bit to show that it's in an okay microclimate with the fence and the brick wall 2-3 feet away. I may have planted it too close, but we'll see. I plan on protecting it the first winter it's in ground. After that, it'…
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Based on this map some coastal Great Lakes areas fall under 7a, 0-5F. Has anyone given these species a try through the winter up there?
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Jubaea or jubaea x butia?
by VA Jeff- 2 followers
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I have a palm I bought from California years ago that was supposedly a jubaea x butia F1 hybrid. At the time, it was in a 15 gal container. Now it is in the equivalent of a 90 gal trash can, since i couldn't find a pot big enough. I suspect it is nearly 15 years old now. Relatively slow growing. Leaves have clear hooks on them, and the petioles are unarmed. The leaves are nearly flat, and occasionally suffer from mild fungal attack in Southwestern North Carolina on the border of zone 8/7. Do you think this plant is pure jubaea? I don't see any sign of butia in it. If so, could it be the biggest jubaea east of the Mississippi now? So what do y'all thi…
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Repot or in the ground?
by Bill Nanaimo- 12 replies
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I just bought these two Trachycarpus should I put them in these 1/2 barrels or just plant them in the ground, if I put them in the 1/2 barrels I was wondering if it slows down their growth?
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This afternoon I visited the Paul J Ciener botanical garden in Kernersville, NC. There were many unexpected and impressive specimens (for the area) there, so I took a few pictures. Kernersville is in the western piedmont, sits at 1,040ft in elevation, and is zone 7b. *Disclaimer - I'm not the best at identifying species, so please let me know if I got any wrong. Thanks* Agave Americana: Dypsis lutescens? (not sure on this one): Dasylirion wheeleri: Yucca faxoniana? (not 100% on this one either): Trachycarpus fortunei: Cordyline australis 'red sensation': Alocasia macrorrhizos (maybe?…
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Palm Suggestions?
by ahosey01- 10 replies
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Hello, I am new to keeping palms, but not new to keeping plants. I recently purchased a new home that was on an unfinished, dirt lot. In the backyard, I went with a Baja California theme. I planted a Cardon Cactus, an Ocotillo, two large Brahea armata, and have a spot reserved for a Boojum tree - which are typically best transplanted in the fall. In the front yard, I went with a palm theme. I have a large Phoenix dactylifera, and four small palms. One is a Phoenix canariensis, one is a Bismarckia nobilis, and two are Mediterranean Fan Palms. I also have two Alluaudia procera with all of the palms. My area (Wickenburg, AZ) is 9a - low 9b. It can ge…
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Butia lall....hmm, not sure
by buffy- 9 replies
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I received this as Butia lallemantii. But I'm just not sure. It's solitary, for now, armed and flowering for the first time. It's holding 30 fronds which confuses me. I'm sure cultivated palms can hold more fronds than wild stuff, but this is in B. odorata territory on fronds. The habit is slightly floppy like B. lallemantii pictures I've seen, but it doesn't match any of Brazilian dwarfs very well. I thought purpuraescens, but this sucker is armed. Perhaps a small B. paraguaensis. P. lepidospatha?
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Here are some palms I got from NTCHP. The filifera are 9-10' tall to the tops of the fronds. I bought and planted them as 1 gallon liners about 18" tall in March of 2018. I hit them with Daconil in the winter because I have had a couple spear pulls. The Bismarck I got in March of 2019 as a 7 gallon and replanted into a 15g so I can bring it in in the winter for a while. The Brahea and Pindo I also got in March of 2019 as 3g. Brahea spear pulled this past Winter which I'm fairly sure was the excess rain in the crown not the cold but it is growing well now. Pindo had some pissed off fronds on the crown also which I also attribute to water in the crown. I now treat e…
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Brahea Armata - New Planting
by ahosey01- 1 reply
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Hello! I am new to the forum. I am also new to keeping palms but did a ton of research before I started. I recently bought a home and had two Brahea Armata planted in the backyard. They were delivered here in boxes, and were planted with the root ball and box soil intact. I live in an area of Arizona that gets down into the mid-20s every couple years, so this seemed like a good species. They were delivered to my yard about four days before they were planted. One of them fell over while they were waiting. In the photos below, it is the palm on the right. The box came partially apart and some of the soil came out, although not all or even most of it.…
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What is the coldest temperate a Queen has survived without protection and does anyone have seeds from it? A large community of users can come up with great varieties with selective breeding when sharing seeds from plants with interesting traits. I like to always plant a lot palms and look for interesting traits.
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USDA Cold Hardiness off by a zone?
by Dimovi- 2 followers
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My understanding is that USDA calculates cold hardiness by taking the lowest temperature each year over 30 years and averaging them, but when I made a spreadsheet for Austin, TX (middle of 8b) my calculations for 2012 put us in the middle of 9a, and in 2020 we are at 23.7F Is that not the case? I still find the system a bit odd as plants don't care about averages and mostly care about extreme lows, so I did also calculate the minimum for last 30 years. Here is the spreadsheet if anyone cares to try with your weather data. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riGDrUzzmqQONdHkVbbyIfNi65unMh4T/view?usp=sharing
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Split or not to split
by 8B palms- 1 follower
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So I know this might come down to person preference and aesthetics, So I was at a large box store for something this morning and couldn't help pic up a L. chinensis, they are a dime a dozen. So as you can see from the pics everything is still small but they are still well armed, don't let size fool you. What's peoples take, there are about 7 palms in the pot, have people had success splitting them up or just plant the whole thing and prune some out too thin it or screw it and let them all grow. Space is not an issue, curious to hear peoples experiences/thoughts on this, thanks.
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Trachycarpus best soil
by palm789- 2 followers
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What is best to plant these palms in,should I plant in pure clay with grit? during our current situation I have only just about acquired multipurpose compost, John innes no 3 and 2 bags of horticultural grit. Or should I use amix of these etc.
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Quick backyard tour
by Chester B- 17 replies
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So with the lockdown I've decided to create Youtube channel to log my progress. I've uploaded a few videos today starting with a very quick backyard tour.
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Windmill flowers, males I'm guessing ?
by Bill Nanaimo- 3 replies
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These are flowers on my dads windmill palm , I'm guessing this means it's a male ?
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Soaking Windmill palm Seeds
by Bill Nanaimo- 8 replies
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Hi, I'm new to growing palm trees from seeds, I hear some people saying soak them for 24 hrs and others say up to 3 days, what works best thank you
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Planting Location Advice
by DAVEinMB- 10 replies
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Alrighty so 3 new palms are being added to the mix and I have no first hand experience with any of them. - Allagoptera Arenaria - 3g - Livistona Decora - 5g - Phoenix Dactylifera - 3g In terms of cold hardiness I'm assuming the Allagoptera is the least hardy but I'm not sure how the Livistona and Phoenix compare to each other. Below are pictures of the 3, next post will have some layout pics with potential spots.
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New palm planter
by Love them palms- 1 follower
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Here's an Idea for pallets by a hot tub.contains a Blue Moroccan, CIDP, parajubea, Bird of Paradise,Waggie,Chamaedorea radicalis. Mukilteo wa zone 8b
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CIDP planted in Washington state
by Love them palms- 14 replies
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CIDP in my backyard facing south in Mukilteo wa zone 8b close to the house
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Chamaerops 'Lisa'?
by RaleighNC- 2 replies
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A grew a number of Chamaerops from seed a few years ago, and all of them are producing divided leaves except for one. To the right is another individual from the same cohort. On the internet I have seen a few examples of individuals that continue to produce only fused leaves as adults. Do you think I have one here? Does anyone know if this is very common?
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butia Whats wrong with these two
by yabazid- 1 follower
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take a look at this please!
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Cold hardiness amongst Cocos nucifera
by GottmitAlex- 8 replies
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Well, winter is almost through. I just want to show the damage winter has brought on my coconuts. The golden malayan dwarf, such as it is being the eldest etc, is more susceptible to cold than the green malayan dwarfs. Here are several pictures in order to appreciate the post-cold damage. The exception (among golden cocos) being my storebought(supermarket) dehusked golden coco which germinated in my greenhaus. I believe the reason it did not present as much damage as the golden malayan dwarf is because this golden coco is a tall variety. These 4 cocos were unprotected this winter. Except for the brood lamps trained at the soil when temps fell below 10C. Our lowe…
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Night Shots in my Yard
by Jubaea_James760- 7 replies
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Its overcast tonight, humidity is up which is a nice change. First time taking night pictures with this phone on this beautiful night first up Butia Odorata I suppose. Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera Brahea Edulis Livistona Austrailis Trachycarpus Princeps Nannorrhops Arabica, took a little bit of winter damage its first winter. I expect this one to gain more hardiest each year. Sabal Uresana Trithrinax Campestris Jubaea Chilensis
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