COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Hi all Since Alberto showed his beauties, I decided to go on with the world needle tour and show my little babies. It is pretty much impossible to get any larger specimens without being completely ruined. So, to try and see, I firs planted out a tiny seedling in April 2012: It has put out 3-4 leaves every year. We lack summer heat so I'm happy anyway. It has never had any sort of protection. and it's already showing some needles, yaaay. And here's my larger one. Planted in spring 2013. Unfortunately, I have no comparison shot. It's in semi shade.
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Hello. I have an Arenga Micrantha that is gorgeous when I successfully prop it up. However, my props always fall over after a day or two because this tree so desperately wants to grow lying flat along the surface of the ground. Is this normal? I have looked at other photos of this palm, and they all appear to be upright. Even the suckers in those photos do not insist on lying directly flat against the ground horizontally. I am not sure what to do. I have tried using stakes to hold the Arenga Micrantha upright, but I am not very gifted at building staking contraptions and may have to build an actual upright reinforcement structure. This is becoming annoying…
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butia jubaea hybrid questions
by NorthFlpalmguy- 4 replies
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1) Are these butia/jubaea hybrids fairly common in Florida? 2) Do curved fronds not occur on some "pure" Butias? I say Butias only as we have a "mutt" mix of Butias I suspect. (Odorata) The reason I ask these questions are quite a number of years ago I was collecting seeds from what I thought was an "odd" Butia capitata in Lake City, Florida. Huge trunk, straighter than most, and fairly clean for a neglected old palm of this species and huge seeds. I wish I had a picture of it now but I am guessing it was relocated when the park received was re-landscaped years later. I noticed the hooks on some of these fronds and the few palms I have left nearly all have the twist…
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serenoa repens 1 2
by palm tree man- 1 follower
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I am starting this forum for those that love our native success story the saw palmetto. There is no palm that is more wide spread and that can survive more diverse conditions in the Southeastern United States. In its own wright it is a cool palm and really deserves more attention despite its slow growing and mostly sub subterranean nature. There are many examples of this palm that craw great distances upon the ground or that grow underground to another location. It is only when the soil is removed "often sandy" that we realize how large and branching some of these clumps truly are. There are also several distinct varieties which show different leaf traits…
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What Variety of C. humilis
by Alicehunter2000- 7 replies
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This was at Kanapaha Garden in Gainesville. ...thought it looked like a multifida version of C. humilis. Anybody got info on this variety?
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JubaeaXButiaXQueen ID
by Yort- 14 replies
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The story behind this palm is as follows: I bought this palm in horrible shape (almost no leaves in a very small container with a huge infection of scale insects) from a Dutch company that didn't know anything about palms. They had shipped a container filled with palms from portugal because the palms were left on a property that they had bought. I've given the palm a bigger container and got rid of the infection and placed it in my greenhouse, at the moment the spear is growing 1,4 cm a day. On the container was written JubaeaXButiaXQueen. What do you guys think?
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Here in Europe we have now lots of Trachycarpus takil grown from seeds collected recently in India in habitat. I wander if its also be grown now in North America. It has shown here good coldhardiness so it should be a nice addition to the list of coldhardy palms grown overthere. Alexander
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I have noticed that Livistona Chinensis seems to have a lot of genetic variation and I am wondering why. Perhaps I am confusing some Livistona Chinensis with other types of Livistona, such as Livistona Australis. The photos below will illustrate what I mean. For example, the first group of photos show the type with a slimmer trunk (often leaning but not always) with no leaf bases, whereas others seem to have a chunkier, thicker trunk full of leaf bases -- or simply very thick with the leaf bases fallen off. There also seems to be variation in how much the leaf tips droop. Some seem to have ribbon tips more than others, although I am not talking about tips that are as…
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native palm oasis in western Arizona?
by Sandy Loam- 6 replies
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I was just reading this article (excerpt below) about Washingtonia Filifera: http://www.desertusa.com/mag99/may/stories/fanpalms.html "Fossil evidence indicates that 10 million years ago, this species extended throughout the Mojave and Sonoran deserts, to the Pacific Coast of California. Today, due to geologic and climatic changes, they are found only in southeastern California (Death Valley National Park south into Baja California) with a few specimens ranging into extreme southern Nevada and western Arizona." Are there any palm oasis locations in western Arizona and the southern tip of Nevada? If so, are they like the palm canyons in the inland deserts of s…
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Sabal Growth Rates Riddle
by Cosmo- 7 replies
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Years ago I planted 3 container grown Sabals, supposedly all the same but I'm no expert. I buy on looks and they were pretty and sold as hardy for our area. Good enough for me. There was no difference in top growth. Palm #1 the largest was planted in what I would consider an urban environment - between the patio and pool deck. I figured that would serve to restrain the growth being right beside the pool gate. I was wrong, dead wrong. It is the largest and most beautiful of the 3. Palm #2 is nearly the same size, doesn't have to contend with concrete and stone but must compete with a 35+ year old ash tree. Both 1 & 2 receive 4-5 hours of direct sunlight each d…
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Here is the background: Four years ago, I unwisely planted a row of livistona chinensis along the edge of a fence dividing my property from someone else's. The adjacent house had been abandoned at the time for a couple of years, so no one was living next door. I planted the livistona as very juvenile palms and assumed that they would be single-trunk specimens, so I planted them only about a foot and a half from the fence (50 centimetres). Four years later, these trees have grown quickly (wet soil, sunny location) and some fronds are now ninefeet tall. They are not trunking yet, but it is becoming clear that they are all suckering Livistona Chinensis! I would not…
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New Trithrinax arrivals in the UK
by benbaron- 1 follower
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Hi all, Just taken delivery of some more goodies - I might have gone overboard.... the pot on this campestris is the biggest thing Ive ever seen and the roots are absolutely bulging in it.
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What gender is Trachycarpus?
by Ovar- 8 replies
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Hi all, I have a question for you. In my garden bloomed first Trachycarpus fortunei. Flower is still developing and I'm still waiting, what will sexes. I photographed a close-up manually open flower, but I do not know what I see. Male? Females? Flowers is 9 pieces.
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Hi everyone, I really believe i am in the right place for palm trees info and helpful advises. My wife already thinks that i am becoming obseseed with palms. Anyway, i was able to germinate a bunch of windmills and they are already 5"-6". I am afraid to place them outside of fear of getting damaged by critters. I also have an upper deck with western exposure and it gets sun from around 2'00pm to around 06'30pm. Do you think if 4 hrs will be ok for the seedlings and what my general approach should be for introducing them to full sun? I live in Marietta GA zone 7b. Thanks in advance;))
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It seems that Florida has a number of relatively recent fungi and pests that are attacking cold-hardy palms, including phoenix, washington, sabal (at least sabal palmetto), and syagrus romanzoffiana. This eliminates a lot of the cold-hardy palms which tolderate USDA zone 8b/9a! (I am not a fan of needle palms, European fan palm, trachycarpus, etc) If these palms will all be dead in a decade, what else will be left that we can use for landscape purposes?!
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The Sterility of Mules
by Alicehunter2000- 5 replies
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Are Mules only self sterile? How would you know if a mule is capable of crossing with other cocoid palms besides actually trying it. Is it more likely to cross a mule with other species or with Syagrus or Butia?
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New Jubaea delivery in the UK
by benbaron- 1 follower
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Hi all, Hope you like my new addition....
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Palm tree on/in sun deck around pool
by Straight6tt- 12 replies
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We are finishing up building a deck around our semi-inground pool and I love the look of the deck going around a palm or two. I am needing some suggestions for what palm to grow in/around our deck. The deck is on the west side of the pool so it will still get sun all day long and the palm will only affect sun later in the afternoon. Having said all that I think a palm that doesnt have a massive canopy is probably best and something with a medium to skinny trunk. I was thinking of putting a mule palm at this spot but the canopy gets fairly large on mules I have heard. Because of this I was thinking of just putting a regular queen although this isnt my favorite palm. …
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Pindo Palm for Zone 7
by Cosmo- 11 replies
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So I have one more slot in my pool landscape for a specimen planting. I have narrowed my choices to either a multi head Thompson yucca or a Pindo palm. Both are similiarly priced. I know the yucca will laugh at our winters but what about the Pindo. Yeah, verily I may live in zone 7 according to the USDA charts but we know that is always just a good story. As a lazy palm grower would I be better going with the yucca. There is so much conflicting info about hardiness I thought I would get some real world experience and expert opinions. Thanks
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The Patric Hybrids Are Here, The Patric Hybrids Are Here!!
by buccaneers37- 33 replies
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It is always a good day when you get a package from Patric. And I want to commend him on his wonderful packing. Great week: Flogging Molly on Wednesday, Jeff Beck / ZZ Top last night, The Patic Hybrids today, Picking up a E. caffer & then going to see The Pixies / The Strokes tomorrow.(I have been very busy, will update my concert thread shortly). L to R JubaeaxButia - B. yatayxQueen - B. paraguayensisxParajubaea cocoides And yes, I know I have a messy desk
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How do Rednecks Trim Tall Palms?
by Alicehunter2000- 17 replies
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With a climbing tree stand of course! When I'm not hunting I put my equipment to good use.
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Hey all, I planted 5 mules last year and they've all been doing great. One started slowing down but nothing drastic. But we had a super wet intro to spring and it slowed way down. Finally fronds started browning and dying 3 weeks ago. I finally grabbed the spear and it pulled right out. The next day I gave the newest frond a tug and it pulled out easier the the spear. I call it a spear but this particular plant never really pushed spears. More like a 4 inch spear and then it would start separating at that height and the frond would grow out from there. Not like the others that would push a two foot spear before separation. (I don't know the word for going from spe…
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Happy Fathers Day to me!
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Made it to Houston, only about 10 lbs of soil all over the back of the jeep. But I'm a proud pappa!
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Yahooey, I can post. So between when I registered and today, I wore the search function pretty thin. I found this link which was very helpful. I confidently bulldozed what had become a misplaced needle out of the ground and ended up with a dozen new needles from it. (First pic and yes those are the bottoms of 1 gallon milk cartons repurposed for the needles.) During the 40 days and 40 nights of rain we had here in North Texas I ventured into a nursery and found 2 containerized saw palmettos at a very sweet price. Pretty much they are doing their best to grow out of the pot. I can plant them the way they are but if it is possible I would like to salvage a few…
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Palms drying out...yellowing
by 905palms- 12 replies
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Curious, my palms (Pindo and Sabal Palmetto) were nice and green when I uncovered them in early April, now they've all browned out and seems to be in decline. In the ground for 3 years. Yes there was some cold snaps and winds, but seems they've been through worse. Spears are green, but still seem like they were freeze dried. I fertilized then watered.. seemed to get worse. Has this happened to anyone else? Can they recover? thx
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