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If you’re after a beautiful easy growing palm, look no further than the dasyantha. They seem to love whatever iam doing to them. A beautiful understory palm. I have a few in dappled light to deep shade to morning sun and they all seem to love growing in these conditions. They will drink as much water as you give them and a little tolerance to mild dry conditions if you miss a watering. I love them super easy to grow and not too bad on the eye, the poor man’s mapu is definitely worth growing. I even lucked up with a variegated variety from a seed batch I germinated.9 points
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As I sit on rock in the garden looking at what I have created iam amazed. The garden goes from a jungle canopy understory to a very dry hot intolerable in summer heat garden. Yet it all seems to work and grow in harmony with Mother Nature. You can create a garden of your taste to reflect your personality, it just takes time. All you see was basically carved out of the Australian bush, and we’re not talking about tropical cairns or Hawaii where you throw a plant over your shoulder and grows by just looking at them. Its hard country to garden in just add water! IMG_9785.mov9 points
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In 2015 while I was working in california I bought some patrick schaffer hybrids. I was inspired by the gardens of the fathers of butia hybrids DIck Douglas(NorCal) and Merrill Wilcox(FL). I wanted some jubaea genetics in my yard but best knowledge said pure jube would not be happy here. My favorite patrick hybrid, the one that I did not give away, was a (Bx J)xJ. I had a coupole BxJ from patrick and this one just looked different, even as a small seedling in a 4" pot. It is a BxJ mother tree pollinated by a jubaea. I had it in a small 7g container for years and then upgraded it to a 20 gallon in 2020. I feared it would not deal with florida humidity and wet soil so I kept it in that 20 gal pot and infrequently watered it. I tried to give it away, no takers from the coconut and adonidia crowd in my neighborhood. I even offered it here on palmtalk, surely a nice cold tolerant hybrid would work somewhere up in northern florida or there abouts, no takers. It grew slowly over the years and a year and a half(?) ago I decided I didn't want a palm prisoner in a container so I decided to put it in the ground in a dry spot where I had removed an invasive ficus benjamina I had mistakenly planted. Well, it seems as if the palm just loved this winter and pushed out a bunch of new growth. It grows faster in winter. I also have a BxJ with 3-4' trunk that is a nice palm but this one has a symmetric beauty that I love. Now I am very happy I didnt give it away. Its not a fussy palm, I planted it in a spot where it will intercept cold NE winds off the nearby pond Anybody else have a butia, Jubaea, or syagrus hybrid out there, I know Patrick made a bunch of different hybrids, show yours if you have one.9 points
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I'd better go and tell all of mine that they are breaking the rules here in my 9b climate...and in all the cool, high altitude, wet mountain valleys I've seen them in in habitat! Be wary of blanket statements.8 points
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This is a perfect time at latitude 26.71°(north of the Old Monkey Jungle) to chime in on this subject! This area of SE Florida is definitely not within the tropics (23° latitude) and we just experienced a cold event that it is necessary to travel back thirty-seven (37) years to find a cold event more severe. However, I would argue from the perspective of what grows and the overall warmth of the climate, that in many manners, it can be considered tropical-like. I detailed at the very bottom of the thread titled "Historic East Florida Freeze, February Screenshots" the climate data experienced during this cold event. At PBIA, on February 1, and February 2 of this month, low temperatures of 31°F were recorded for a total of three hours below freezing. This certainly does not dovetail into an easy discussion of a tropical like climate. That stated, I also detailed how the end of the month tally for the month of February 2026 at PBIA was a cumulative median temperature of 64.84°F. This eclipses the 64.4°F required in all months for a technical tropical connotation under Koeppen/Trewarthia. January 2026 had a cumulative median temperature of 67.01°F.. December 2025 had a cumulative median temperature of 71.84°F. All of these temperatures were recorded at PBIA. Parenthetically, even in our coldest event in 37 years, we met the tropical criteria for Koeppen/Trewartha. That was not the case during the December 1989 freeze. During that cold event, the cumulative median temperature for December 1989 was 57.48°F. The cumulative median temperature for January 1990 was 66.37°F. The cumulative median temperature for February 1990 was 70.04°F. All of these temperatures were recorded at. PBIA. In my other post above described, I detailed with specificity the weather underground station in Palm Beach referred to as Device One-KFLPALMB 251. During the February 2026 cold event, this device recorded an ultimate low temperature of 38.3°F with a cumulative median temperature of 67.8°F. That taps into another theory that I have based upon observations regarding a micro climate experienced in this area because of proximity to the.Gulfstream/Florida Current. I will not open that door in this conversation. More to the point, the obvious question becomes what grows? I have posted pictures in various threads of the tropical vegetation and palms in this area and how they have been affected. Ultimately, what can be grown in an area, particularly after a cold event, should lend some perspective regarding the tropical character of a place. Anne Norton Sculpture Gardens is adjacent to the Intracoastal and my knowledgeable friend Felix, who is the real man on the ground taking care of the palms, testified to me that AN did not experience a freeze. Please find some recently photographed specimens at AN: Neoveitchia storkii, which is indigenous to the Fiji Islands:8 points
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1. Hyophorbe indica 1.5 gallon size 2. Burretiokentias koghiensis 15 gallon 3. Caryota gigas 5 gallon 4. Butia eriospatha band size 5. Brahea clara 5 gallon 6. Brahea edulis 15 gallon 7. Brahea elegans 5 gallon 8. Coccothrinax barbadensis 15 gallon 9. Coccothrinax crinita 5 gallon 10. Cryosophila stauracantha 15 gallon 11. Dypsis baronii 5 gallon 12. Dypsis heteromorpha 5 gallon 13. Dypsis pembana 5 gallon 14. Kentiopsis olliviformis 15 gallon 15. Prestoea acuminata (montana) 5 gallon 16. Rhopalostylis baueri 15 gallon 17. Roystonea oleracea 15 gallon 18. Syagrus coronata band size. This is a small sampler of the over 200,000 palms & cycads we have at our Nursery. I think we offer the largest species selection of any Palm or Cycad Nursery in the western U.S. Visitors welcome. We give individual attention. In business in Encinitas, CA for over 40 years. Mail orders done almost daily. Delivery available on most items. And, by the way, creator and early developer (along with assistance from other IPS members) of this PalmTalk Blog multiple decades ago. Phil Bergman Owner Jungle Music Nursery 1111 Urannia Ave, Encinitas, CA 92024 Phone: 619 291 4605 Email: phil@junglemusic.net Website: www.junglemusic.net8 points
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After several revisions, I’m excited to share my ongoing PDF guide to cold hardy palms. This has been a long-term project and will continue to evolve as I learn more and gather new experiences. Feel free to share it anywhere by posting the link to the document — that will always point to the latest version for when I update. I am still working on some more pages in time. I truly appreciate all the support, knowledge, and friendships from this forum over the years. My goal has always been simple, help others enjoy and succeed in this hobby as much as I have. Hopefully this information will especially help others new to the hobby. While the design is AI assisted, all photos and text dictation are from my experiences. While I am aware there are a few errors still, let me know what you think TNTropics Cold Hardy Palm Guide https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w9-43MjGhgyQyqgVeQoWXU69GvRGLpdU/view?usp=sharing7 points
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I dont find archies(kings) difficult to grow at all and I am in a cool 10a right on the 9B border. I also dont plant any palm in cool soil, the developing roots will have to see more aggressive fungus behavior at lower temps. Microbes that assist in nutrient uptake are 20x less active at 55F than at 70F so many palms will not feed well and face favorable conditions for root fungus infection(wet with stagnant drainage, low oxygen, cool temp soils). There is a lot of experience growing various archontophoenix species here and we have the Aussie members who are quite familiar with them. My Archontophoenix alexandre and myolensis are from 25 to over 30' in 14 years and have been over 20' for 8 years. They have seen 30F cold snaps 2x and mostly defoliuated. They have also seen 3 hurricanes. They are pretty tough though I know they can die as small palms at 30F. I bunch mine together to improved coldhardiness a fruiting triple of alexandre and a myolensis, also currently fruiting6 points
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Hello you guys, I'm moving across the country and I'm sadly getting rid of all my plants. Prices are negotiable. wholesale discounts available. Zamia furfuracea x spartea $5 ea Zamia standleyi $5 ea Zamia nesophila $25 ea Zamia Purpurea $30 ea Agave parryi var. huachucensis $2 Agave oteroi $2 Agave potatorum 'Dwarf' $2 Agave horrida subsp. horrida $2 Agave potatorum 'Verschaffeltii' $2 African violet Sunny salmon $5 African violet carolina elegant affair $5 African violet bob serbin $5 Begonia jubar $7 Begonia chloroneura $7 Sarracenia hybrid small seedling pot $3 Drosera capensis "alba" Drosera capensis "Red" Shipping priority $8 DM to inquire further or if you'd like to see any more pictures!6 points
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I shall start this thread, this way when I plant a few more things in the garden it will be found here, and what a joy it will be, theres a lot to planted! So the new plants for today are kerriodoxas and chamaedorea adscendens a little reindhardtia gracilis a philodendron hose buono and a Zamia variegata. This little batch should get the garden looking good from the deck.6 points
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There are private growers that can help you . I have met them here on Palm Talk. You may have to drive an hour or so but the experience is priceless. I met @DoomsDave here a couple years ago ( has it really been that long?) and made a couple trips to his jungle . He has very good knowledge and experience to share , not to mention some very friendly kitty cats that patrol his garden. Not like going to a nursery , or buying on line( not for me) . He has introduced me to some palms that I would not have thought about on my own . All of them are growing very well . The bonus is spending time with Dave , never disappointing. A few “gems” that came home with me. Harry Cyphophoenix Nucele ‘Dypsis Lanceolata ( now Chrysalidiocarpus) Rohpalostylus Bauri Cheesemania I have 5 or so Chamaedorea Ernesti Augusti that came home Dypsis Basilonga on the left and Chamaedorea Plumosa on the right.6 points
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A few more from Pearland. Everything palmwise survived. The Queens fronds look great for 22-24°F. Bismarckia nobilis Medemia argun Butia , Copernicia alba, and Livistona nitida Phoenix theophrastii ‘Golkoy’ Copernicia alba #2 Butia x Parajubaea var. torallyi Mule palm Livistona decora Ravenea rivularis and King palm Queen, seed supposedly sourced from a hardy parent. Beaucarnea recurvata starting to form a thick caudex Acrocomia, possible totai Sabal uresana Beccariophoenix alfredii6 points
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In my area up here in the Bay Area, king palms are all over the neighborhood. My own personal experience with them is that they are the easiest and fastest growing palms in the garden, sun or shade. I have groves of them as well as ones growing singularly. Seeds pop up by the thousands just as much in the winter as summer. Some of those volunteers are aver twenty feet tall. I have all the other Archontophoenix species doing well too. The first ones I planted in 2001 sailed through the 2007 freeze (26°F) with barely a scratch. Just some light bronzing on horizontal fronds and they replaced those leaves by summer’s end.5 points
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Had a great germination of H. coriacea over the last couple months. I’d read they can be difficult to germinate but this lot did a great +/-90% germination of a selection of 100 seeds, over about a three month period of warmish treatment. I’m doing a bit of a trial to see how many I can get through the first winter. Same with the medemia (100) to see if I can lure out a couple survivors which are a bit more cold and wet tolerant. Interesting ‘corkscrew’ root on some of the hyphaene. Who’s had success in cooler climes with hyphaene?5 points
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Just to clarify, the female is the rather commonly grown Ravenea glauca. The uncommon plants is the male, Ravenea julietiae. I have seedlings of Ravenea glauca from past years because I have both male and female of that species. Today I collected a little pollen from the Ravenea julietiae and tried dusting some flowers on the Ravenea glauca female. It won't develop full fruits with seeds unless the flowers are successfully pollinated in my experience. So I will collect more pollen and try dusting again over the next few days. We will see if the glauca develops fruit.5 points
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That same area today. I just haven't had the heart to post photos before now. I haven't looked at the "before" photos until today. I will work on a more comprehensive photo documentation of the wreckage of our garden in the coming days. I apologize for the quality of the photos. That is not my strong suit but it certainly gets the point across.5 points
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I want a center piece tree. Here’s my vision a pindo palm as the anchor. A burgundy cordyline australis, red and orange dipladenias, calla lillies, to the side of the pindo birds of paradise, at the base soft tip agave, burnt burgundy agave. Something like this, this is survives well in my climate. A mixture of tropical and Mediterranean. Im not an experienced palm grower, I would love a royal palm, but I don’t have the confidence that it would survive or look good. I definitely want to grow some more tropical palms in the backyard where I can experiment. Do you guys recommend buying small ones online? That way if they die its not a huge financial burden.5 points
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The damage on some palms and cycads seems wildly inconsistent. It's really strange: Dioon Merolae has 8 or 9 totally torched fronds, and one untouched solid green one! Zamia Vasquezii on the N side of an Alfredii is 100% burnt to a crisp, and an identical one 6 feet away looks nearly perfect. More normal is the behavior of some Encephalartos Ferox in the open (exposed to wind) 100% torched, others with some windbreak are lightly damaged. I did pull one spear from a small B. Alfredii today. It is about 3 feet tall, so it is still super skinny near the bud. I haven't tried pulling on many spears yet. I am sure of 100% mortality on all Burretiokentia and Cyphophoenix species, along with several Dypsis/Chysalidocarpus Lanceolata and Pembana. The Lutescens will probably regrow from the roots. A bunch of others probably have bud death and I just won't know for a couple of months. Some stuff I am just going to "edit" out now instead of trying to fix them.5 points
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Went there today to get another round of 14 bags of mulch (need about 70 bags total for the front yard as I go section by section with the spring mulching on days off). …… didn’t see the Old Timer. Someone made off with him.5 points
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They generally transplant very well, even with a small root ball. Spring would be a good time for the move or now if temps are reliably mild. The palm will be quite heavy so be ready for that. You’ll need to water it daily for a few months while it replaces lost roots.5 points
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One of the world’s most beautiful palms imo. But they won’t really grow here, so I can only admire them while traveling. In the tropics, their success is their downfall, as, like Cocos, they’re everywhere. Kind of like P. robellini out here.4 points
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@kinzyjr after a couple of weeks it's clear that some palms just won't bounce back. Yesterday I cleaned up one section of the front yard. I'm calling this the "Corypha bed" because I planted a small Corypha Lecomtei in the middle. It was remarkably undamaged, but I also put a cardboard box over it on all the frosts and any night under ~35F. Here's the before: The bulk of the dead vegetation here are cycads. The bottom of the fronds were still green, so most likely they'll flush out this spring. There's Encephalartos Laurentianus, Bandula, Gratus, and Gratus x Laurentianus. Cycas Thouarsii and some Zamia Furfuracea were also torched. Cycas Debaoensis (hybrid) and several Zamia "Coonties" were fine, along with a hybrid Encephalartos Transvenosus x (Trans x Woodii). Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus Lanceolata and Pembana were killed, along with a Syagrus Schizophylla, Archontophoenix Purpurea, and Satakentia Liukiuensis double. Most likely D-E-D are a Syagrus Amara, Bottle, and Gaussia Princeps double. Even the two Allagoptera Arenaria were damaged, but surprisingly the Licuala Sumawongii looks nearly perfect! I'd had some Sumawongii die after upper 20s frosts, so this one (and a couple of others in the yard) are a surprising success! Here's the after: @TropicsEnjoyer you can see the above Angustifolia looks like nothing happened. But there are three others in the yard (all from the same original plant) that are melted to 95% mush. I can't explain it...so weird! This particular bed has an average of 64% leaf burn and 18% mortality, yikes! @kinzyjr I'll collect all the data in a sheet later this spring.4 points
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I bought (3) P. rupicola palms and planted it as a triple about 3-4' apart. The rupicola is about 10-12' wide in crown, a bigger palm than roebelinii. As a triple its kind of big(20'+ wide) THey appear more lush than roebeliniis as well, and the thorns are bendy at the base so stabbing injury can be easily avoided when trimming. My (9) roebeliniis(in AZ) stabbed me just about every time I trimmed them, and they put out 2-3 x more leaves a year than rupicola, so trimming is much more work. The palm behind them is an adult beccariophoenix alfredii, about 30' tall, 15 years in the ground from a 3 gallon. That BA was hit by a hurricane milton -up to 110 mph winds- 18 months ago and hasn't recovered to full crown. B. Affredii is a large palm, not for small yard spaces. Here is that BA before the hurricane.4 points
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Couple more photos from my garden. This one is taken the day before the catastrophe. Similar photo below taken today, 3-2-26 The brown tree in the background is a Mango. I am increasingly optimistic that the Wodyetias will pull through. As an aside, all of the Earleaf Acacias around here (they are everywhere) are defoliated and/or burned. Not sure if they will recover, but most likely will. I was going to post more photos but my camera skills pale in comparison to my wife's abilities. She took photo #1 on her phone, I took #2 this morning on my kindle so you can see why I choose to regroup. She has graciously agreed to document the carnage with me tomorrow morning. Once they are downloaded, I will continue the documentation.4 points
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This is why these forums are awesome. I have never thought of this palm. I think it looks very nice. General nurseries don’t carry these, they’re not really palm geeks in my area. I’ve asked multiple people here where to go, but no one responds. I wish there was a list of preferred nurseries. That would make things easy. I think I’m gonna go with the Pindo. Its hardy, survives my climate well and looks good.4 points
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Thanks. Wishing you well too. My coconut although growing has oozed out in a few places on the trunk. Like a dime size. I've read that can be ok as long as it is growing. Ugh, not feeling good about it tbh. I lost both plumerias...trunks are turning black. My autograph plant I'm leaving alone for now but saw some oozing for the first time today. So frustrating, all from one night.4 points
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@Bkue + @pj_orlando_z9b + et al. Hope you both get a few Adonidias and Roystoneas to push through. It's looking like I'll be removing one Royal and one Adonidia. The others should be able to pull through. Two of my coconuts are pushing new green growth, so there is hope there. While I was working the booth at the plant sale today, a few people asked me what the pinnate palms were on the east side of Summit tower downtown. My answer of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana apparently caught them off-guard, but when I explained that the building blocked all of the wind, it made sense why they were green.4 points
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One thing lost in this discussion about tropical palms and foliage in cold events is the amount of heat in the particular climate. Notwithstanding this February 2026 cold event, the average February temperature at PBIA was 64.82 degrees Fahrenheit for this admittedly cold event. Of course, the Koppen/Trewartha classification for tropical is an average temperature during the entire year of not less than 64.4°F. This is the PBIA weather underground site for the month of February: https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/fl/west-palm-beach/KPBI/date/2026-2 The average temperatures for the months of January 2026 and December 2025 were 67.01°F and 71°.84°F, respectively on the weather underground site for PBIA. The average temperature in the month of December 1989 at PBIA on the weather underground site during that cataclysmic event was 57° 48. F. The following months in January and February 1990 averaged 66.37°F and 70.04°F, respectively. It warmed up quickly after the devastating 1989 event. https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/fl/west-palm-beach/KPBI/date/1989-12 The closest and most reliable weather underground station in Palm Beach is Device One-KFLPALMB 251. During February 2026, it registered an average temperature of 67.8 F. with an ultimate low of 38°.3 F for the month of February 2026. https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KFLPALMB251/table/2026-02-28/2026-02-28/monthly4 points
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Come down ye can dig up some volunteers and pick up seeds --- tree droppng load s of seeds. I dont go on this sidt too oftern4 points
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