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Another tough dry tolerant palm. I would go so far as to say they prefer the slightly dry side in the ground. Having grown one in my garden that endured all sorts of conditions climate wise. They will drink as much as you give them, but also tolerate and even grow well in dry times not suffering. It’s taken my one around 26 years to flower, a few seeds so far but iam waiting on that big score for seeds sooner or later. Definitely one tough palm so get your garden looking even better with a saintlucei!

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They don’t get any easier than the ramsayi. Super tough and a lot of tropical looking palm for your garden, just add water.

Yes they’re always in or near water in natural habitat.

In a subtropical climate such as my climate winters slow them down. The big one in the picture is 27 years old and the other smaller one the garden has been there for about 4 years under neglect, it has picked up pace since I started ramping up on my irrigation schedule. So I would say a bit below medium paced not a rocket ship , up there with a kentia, you turn around in the years and hey you got a nice palm. Other licualas are quite paced in containers and around the same in the ground as ramsayi. Here’s a pic of a bracteata and it’s starting to get a move on after 3 years in the ground and at the rate it’s growing I would say a bit better than ramsayi. But all the other licuala love water in my garden. The lanonia (was licuala) dasyantha is the fastest of them all for me, you won’t stop them growing quite well paced!

Hi guys. Yes Carpentaria acuminata will grow well in Perth. I lived in Belmont and had a few in my garden that were doing well. The new owners cut them all down. Tragic. There was/is a large trunking and fruiting one near the airport in Belmont. Also I remember another one that was fruiting in Belmont that was cut down while I was still living there. They love a hot spot, but need some protection from the worst of Perth winters. If you grow them against an east or north facing wall that holds the heat at night and blocks cold southerly winds they should do well. Feed and water regularly during the growing season. Let them be a bit drier in winter but if you’re in Perth sand that won’t be an issue. I always planted in compost rich soil, but the sand will always win. If you know how to work with and create micro climates Perth can grow lots of stuff that normally wouldn’t grow. In South Perth I’ve seen a trunking and healthy Adonidia merrillii that was also flowering looking like a Townsville grown specimen. I loved growing Carpentaria acuminata. I wish I could grow them down here but it’s a stretch too far. They’re great to grow from seed too. They have a beautiful black seed that looks like a bit like a mini Wodyetia to me.

Just one Sabal (burmudana) in my garden of well over 100 different palm species but I love it. The photo doesn’t show how massive it actually is very well.

My little eriospatha growing among the lavender has been in the ground for 13 years! But it only started to motor once the the big Canary date next to it was taken out 3 or 4 years ago.

Since there are a lot of pics from the Jacksonville area, I thought I would throw in a few pics of some larger Butia I saw last summer at Naval Air Station Jacksonville:

Here are more tall Pindo Palms (Butia) in Jacksonville, Florida. Enjoy !!!

Three rare ones getting my attention today. Pinanga sp BorneoAreca ahmada licuala sallehana var incisifolia

A few from LHI.. Last one is a red leaf emergent fosteriana

Here’s one I’ve grown from seed. It’s been flowering about four years, and is just now developing seeds. It’s growing away from a big Beccariophoenix, & is surprisingly stout. Nor is it very tall, maybe 2-1/2 meters.

Three for the price of one, archontophoenix Cunninghamiana, dypsis saintlucei and Arenga engleri.

Bees are a welcome addition in getting attention! IMG_1608.mov

Ravenea glauca

One of Royals opening a new frond

The potting bench this time. If I put a little thought into it life will be easier potting up. So it was time to get the welder and start building. Iam never building anything out of timber in the bush again, this steal structure should see me out and a few years beyond that.

Butia yatay and friends under a mist halo a couple of weeks ago.

Sabal plants are beautiful and very tropical, some more so than others. I have Sabal Riverside plants, which are more resistant to Chile's freezing climate.

Easy to grow and looks as nice as the most tropical Licuala - what more could you ask for? This one has done well for me in the pot since I got it, finally picked out a permanent spot for it. Excited for bigger leaves once it gets established.

Great info and that makes perfect sense. What they did back in those days is just so sad. But then it still goes on now. I’m glad they are looking a rehabilitating certain areas.

Not true of either Washingtonia sp. ...locally at least. Pretty sure there are plenty of " water side " W. filifera growing around both natural and man made Oasis in CA < and Baja > as well. ...More examples.... Tempe... Tucson...

I do believe the bellmooreana grow at a higher altitude than the fosteriana. Amazing pics in habitat I must go there one day. And that emergent red leaf puts any Calyptrocalyx to shame!

Maybe was greenhouse grown and not sun acclimated?

Butia's in Augusta, GA: Butia paraguayensis - Butia odorata Butia seed variety:

From the looks of that building, it’s WAY WAY older than the Queen palm that is about twenty years old. That building certainly wasn’t built in 2006 or later. I’ve seen many cases of palms “hugging” the walls they are right next to.

Don Hodel in his three articles had highlighted several times the frequent potassium deficiency of Sabal specimens growing in CA.

Nice one there a tough palm!

Oh and I forgot to ask also, did your Butia that transplanted similarly pull through?

Doesn't look too bad to me! You obviously know more about caring for palms than I do, so all I can offer is support. Hang tight!

Three easy growing palms. That get attention Chambeyronia macrocarpa linospadix monostachya Livistona rotundifolia

Likewise, mine seems to grow at pretty much the same rate as a typical forestiana, which is not fast, but nor is it anywhere near the slowest palm I've grown. I don't know about germination rate, but forestiana does naturally grow in big stands, such that the seedlings are very well adapted to and tolerant of low light (and will grow steadily in it for decades), and hence make good houseplants. I don't think belmoreana grows in dense stands like this, so it won't fair so well in low light and hence the reputation for being slower.

They look pretty rough Phil, do you reckon they're survivors of a cleared littoral rainforest?

My twenty+ year old C. Decipiens (formerly known as Dypsis decipiens) is bulging in its crown shaft. It’s never flowered before and, for those in the know, do you think an inflorescence is hiding in there?

My purpurea is stunted, 7 years in the ground in deep shade but it is in clay so it stays moist. Sunlight is the enemy of th epurple crownshaft here in florida. All the taller ones I have seen are blanched if planted in sun. Here it is to the right of a satakentia. Your climate seems to match southern california and some parts of austrailia perhaps. I would recommend you get growing advice from members that have experience growing in the mediterranean climate. I have grown int he desert where archies die rapidly due to desiccation and in Florida where the roots dry out fast in sandy soil but the air is more humid so not as bad as a desert or mediterranean. Use the search function or just PM @DoomsDave who has grown some beautiful archies. I have seen quite a few archies from SoCal(or NorCal) or Australia look better than mine for sure. Multis are far more water efficient, easier to keep happy than single archies in my yard. I have planted all my archies with other palms nearby so moisture control of the soil is easier. All the shade in the pic also slows water evaporation by sun heating the ground.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXCUthNjtbT/?igsh=empxM3hydXZoaGto I'm filling the bedroom shelves up again. What will my next obsession be? Begonias? More alocasias? I've still got so many holes to dig, dozens of bulbs germinating, Sabal seeds popping up like mad - @Bigfish the causariums and hybrids are totally fine! - lots to prop and chop, a few things to pot up, and I'm just not feeling it today. I really do need a coco coir and perlite sponsor 😂 And don't judge me for the music. First off it's a banger and my last 6 or 7 posts were Metallica. I'm growing up mom's ficus elastica tinekae or whatever the hell it's called, I ordered her a blue hydrangea and some sulfur for it, and got her a couple African violets. Her mom was famous for growing them. Bittersweet because I'm watching my mom's mind go down the same path my granny did in real time, maybe if I get plants outside her window she'll peel back her blackout curtains every few weeks or so.

Thanks Berndyer, Would you say they are worth the effort and do they look ok in our climate?

Yup, a young Hospita plugging along…

Sabal minor palms are Native to the Southeast of Virginia and extend as far North as the central wooded and less-developed centre of the lower Virginia Peninsula. They were nearly extirpated during colonial times when forests were cleared for farmland and development, and then later with the suburban sprawl expanding. But a few thousand individuals are scattered between the Great Dismal Swamp and the Atlantic coast and several hundred grow in the woods between Newport News and Yorktown to this day. Completely wild and native sabals. This is common knowledge for residents of Huntington Pointe neighborhood. A Qarsherskiyan woman named Sarah has been protesting the clearing of a remaining patch of Dwarf Palmetto for the construction of what she thought was a golf course, but ended up being Huntington Pointe Pet Park.

Sabal minor/Dwarf Palmetto is native to the tidewaters region of Virginia. They grow in the less developed areas to the South of Virginia Beach between the Great Dismal Swamp and the Atlantic Coast, as well as in the Great Dismal Swamp and forested parts of isle of wight county. The Northernmost wild population of Sabal minor / dwarf palmetto in their native habitat are on the Virginia Peninsula in the woods between Yorktown and Newport News. They're heavily guarded and considered sacred by a local triracial isolate group called the Qarsherskiyans. You may have heard of those people because of one named Angel who is known for her pygmy date palms she overwinters in Elizabeth City, NC backyard. Or maybe you've heard of them because of one of their leaders, when he was younger he used to do some trolling on YouTube and joke about his Ohio microclimate that had "so many palms doing well, even Chamaedorea outside in the ground." BigfootSquad's real name is Sultan Ali, by the way. Or maybe you heard of the Qarsherskiyans from Percy The Palm Man in the 1990s. Anyways, they consider Sabal minor and other palms sacred. It's because of the prophet Muhammad growing dates or something, and sabal minor is the only palm that had in coastal Virginia so it made a good enough representation for them.

Butia "forest" in Galveston, TX. There are about 85 of these planted very close together in a grove near the entrance of a community.

Large Odorata's in Houston. Planted in 1976 per the pastor of the church.

I am missing Butias growing in Asia, so I post here a link to a Butia (yatay??) as road tree in southern Japan, analogue photo taken in 1979: https://www.flickr.com/photos/palmeir/18075357409

Here's another tall Butia in Jacksonville, Fl.

One of my favourite Swiss butias:

Butia capitata M@x

nice thread idea. heres some local shots butia on right, CIDP on left