COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Weird Sabal Frond
by Dartolution- 2 followers
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So my Sabal blackburniana threw a weird looking leaf. Its like the spear got stuck in the center while it was pushing out and bent the frond. Has anyone seen this before, and is this anything I need to worry about? Its been pushing out about a frond a month since the heat kicked in, and has another spear emerging now. Just want to make sure. Its on drip irrigation, gets bi-monthly liquid fertilizer with the rest of the yard, and every 2 months gets PalmGain at the base. Thanks.
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I see different posts with different colors. I wonder if it's either genetic or if the environment plays a role, similar to some blue cycads.
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I spent last week on vacation down at our families beach house in Emerald Isle, NC. The island sits right on the 8a/b border, and is absolutely littered with Palmetto and Butia. Sagos and European fan palms are also very common plantings. Windmills are present as well, but most don't look very good - I'm not sure if this is due to the sandy soil or extreme heat. Sabal minor is the only palm native to the island, and can be found in the maritime forest as well as used in landscaping. There is actually a distinct native variety present called "emerald isle giant" that is known for its larger than average fronds. While Sabal palmetto is not native, the Florida transplants th…
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Sabal minor ID
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 6 replies
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This dwarf is clearly not a regular minor. Its around 20 years old from seed and has been flowering for a long time. This year it shot up the tallest flower of its life and is only a few inches above the leaves. Flowers stalks are as big around as a pencil do not typically extend past the leaves. Seeds produced are extremely small just a little bigger than guihaia. Palm has multiple trunks but top of the leaves are less than 36" Any guesses to what variety it is?
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Chamaerops Humilis Planting Question
by trachyman- 1 follower
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I have a small Med Fan Palm I want to plant into a raised bed where I have several other palms doing very well for years. The rasied bed is approx 16-18 inches tall and pretty loamy. I have had a Med (cerifera) in this location before but died in a normal Z8b winter the first year in the ground. I had another Med (green form) main stem die that same year in a other location it's first year in. Luckily once sucker survived and is recovering nicely today. My question is should I put some gravel into the back fill to improve drainage? I want to make sure rain in winter doesn't hang out near the root zone in case that was the cause of death for the last two. Also wha…
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Dwarf butia
by Laaz- 12 replies
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I have been finding quite a few dwarf butias around town lately. This one has a very short trunk & the top leaves are 5 ft from the ground. It has flowered multiple times.
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Jubaea x queen in the PNW
by Love them palms- 6 replies
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Got one a Jubaea x Queen from a friend of mine. Mukilteo wa zone8b. he says he has another. https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Nurseries---Gardening-Store/NW-Palmscapes-And-Exotics-2020951271561121/ Anyway just posting pics and inviting those who own these beautiful trees to show them off
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I will be heading down to my grandparents beach house in Emerald Isle, NC come early July. They've asked me to do some landscaping while I'm there, so of course I will be planting some new palms. The property already has one large Butia, but that's it. I am already planning on adding some sabal minor around shady areas and a couple sabal palmetto out in full sun. I'd like to add some other, less typical palms as well, so I was wondering if any of you might have some recommendations? Emerald Isle is zone 8a/b. Thanks
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A few new plantings
by Allen- 7 replies
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From left to right Needle Palm, Trachycarpus Fortunei (Back), Sabal Minor (Front), Needle Palm, Out of view Sabal Brazoria Sabal Birmingham (Front left), 3 needle palms (back left), 2 Sabal Minor, Trachycarpus Fortunei, Sabal Minor Dwarf
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Am I Out of the (Cycad) Woods Yet?
by Manalto- 1 follower
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Last Saturday, I received delivery of three plants: a Cycas debaoensis, a C. deb. X panz. hybrid, and a Sabal causiarum, all small, all bare root. I planted them immediately and have been keeping them moist but not soaked. They're in dappled shade under a big live oak. When do I know if they're doing okay? Any tips on ensuring their survival?
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Apologies for the terrible Google Street View resolution. This is Nye County, zone 8a with annual lows in the 10-15F range. Apparently CIDP's are hardy to only 15-20. Having visited the area a number times they've been around for more than a decade, possible 2. Not irrigated either, surviving on only around 4" of rain annually! Also surprising is the area's routine exposure to below-freezing temperatures, for up to 4 months out of the year (although it warms up quickly when the sun rises). I'm left to guess there's either an ideal microclimate (although not anywhere near a building), or they're better at resisting "dry" cold (relative humidity …
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cold-hardy palms Zone 8A, Other Than Pindo and Chamerops?
by BamaPalmer- 2 followers
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As my 40 years of living draws to a conclusion, in SE Florida, I want to assure that my final 1/3rd of this life is still as palmy as possibly. I will grow Pindo and Euro. Fan Palms, but when I live in Central Alabama, USA beginning next Spring, what are a few other palm species that I might wish to try? I have heard a few bad tales of warning from Zone 8A nurserymen about failed Medjool landscape attempts, Chinese Fan palm growing attempts and culture really bad growing Washingtonia robusta attempts, but I have heard nothing about "Mule" palms, Chilean Fan palm, and/or other promising palm hybrids that COULD be a "go" (if even available) for the Gulf South USA. Who mi…
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Which of these two Washingtonias has more filifera in it?
by LivistonaFan- 10 replies
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Some background story: The last two winters were probably 10a (haven't checked the thermometer this year, but this winter most certainly was even milder than the previous one: -1.0°C/30.2°F). Therefore I even thought about planting much more marginal palms like for example Dypsis robusta. But after listening to some horror stories from a local who has witnessed olive trees dying back in the winter of 1985 and another person living nearby who claimed to have measured -8 °C with his car thermometer in early 2018 (local meteo sites say -3°C, some -5°C) I got disillusioned. Back to the question: The two palms depicted are Washingtonia "robusta" raised from rps seeds. But…
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Parajubaea Sunkha vs Queen Palm 1 2
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 1 follower
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Anyone here have these two side by side for comparison purposes in 9A climates?
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Myrtle Beach qualified for Zone 9B almost the last two years 1 2
by Palmlover32- 2 followers
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So even though we are the farthest north zone 8B not on the west coast, as 8b stretches all the way down to Pensacola and northern Jacksonville FL, and only up to Myrtle Beach on the very coastal areas of South Carolina. But I have lived here for 6 years now, and also went through all the data. The past 2 years we have qualified as 9B! Never went under 25. Well, it hit 24 once, but both were only one night a year. Hit 25 in 2020, and 24 once in 2019. Those were the lowest temps. Also true for the very rare 8b nights where we actually have gone down to about 15 degrees. It’s literally only one or two nights a year. Average winter low is 38 or so, and it only went 32 …
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Zone Pushing with Large Palms
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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Hey guys, Wanted to hear from anyone who has had success zone-pushing with large palms. My town (Wickenburg, AZ) is technically in 9a - but I am near a body of water, in the central (more urbanized) part of town, at a lower elevation than the local weather station. Dec-Jan lows at that station average 32-34 degrees, with a few nights down to 25 per year and every few years (5-10) a low around 18-20. It is difficult to find good data for my part of town - but I will collect it this year to figure out exactly where I stand. I am new to growing palms, but not new to gardening. I planted a Madagascar-themed garden in the front, growing Alluaudia procera, Alo…
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Filifera seedlings
by RyManUtah- 3 followers
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Filifera babies popping up. Seeds sown from rotten fruit beneath the afformentioned wild Nevada specimens. What a nice surprise!
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Can California fan palms grow in zone 8B
by Bill Nanaimo- 22 replies
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Hi, Has anyone had any luck growing California fan palms in zone 8B or on east/South Vancouver Island? thanks for any info
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New found land
by Manalto- 1 follower
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My unpaved driveway goes between the house and a big old live oak. Then there's an empty patch of land roughly 35 ft square. Behind that is a clothesline, and at the back of the property is a row of camellias and banana shrub with a Sabal minor understory. A service lane runs between the houses on my street and the next street over. Here's the layout from a second-story window. The property line is between the tall rice paper plants and my neighbor's ramshackle screen house. This primo piece of garden patch in the high dappled shade of the live oak (trunk visible at extreme right of photo) has been, up until now, mostly ignored. Infested with weeds, it oc…
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(Butia x Jubaea) x Syagrus
by smithgn- 1 follower
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Hey everyone, I thought we should start a thread about this specific hybrid. It's a Butia x Jubaea parent hybrid, crossed again with a Syagrus Romanzoffiana. It's most likely a tad less hardy than the Butia x Jubaea hybrid, but then again, we really don't know. I visited my palm friend Gayland Penny, whom I bought the hybrid from, and he told me to go ahead and put it in ground. So I thought, what the heck? Zoomed out a little bit to show that it's in an okay microclimate with the fence and the brick wall 2-3 feet away. I may have planted it too close, but we'll see. I plan on protecting it the first winter it's in ground. After that, it'…
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Based on this map some coastal Great Lakes areas fall under 7a, 0-5F. Has anyone given these species a try through the winter up there?
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Jubaea or jubaea x butia?
by VA Jeff- 2 followers
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I have a palm I bought from California years ago that was supposedly a jubaea x butia F1 hybrid. At the time, it was in a 15 gal container. Now it is in the equivalent of a 90 gal trash can, since i couldn't find a pot big enough. I suspect it is nearly 15 years old now. Relatively slow growing. Leaves have clear hooks on them, and the petioles are unarmed. The leaves are nearly flat, and occasionally suffer from mild fungal attack in Southwestern North Carolina on the border of zone 8/7. Do you think this plant is pure jubaea? I don't see any sign of butia in it. If so, could it be the biggest jubaea east of the Mississippi now? So what do y'all thi…
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Repot or in the ground?
by Bill Nanaimo- 12 replies
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I just bought these two Trachycarpus should I put them in these 1/2 barrels or just plant them in the ground, if I put them in the 1/2 barrels I was wondering if it slows down their growth?
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This afternoon I visited the Paul J Ciener botanical garden in Kernersville, NC. There were many unexpected and impressive specimens (for the area) there, so I took a few pictures. Kernersville is in the western piedmont, sits at 1,040ft in elevation, and is zone 7b. *Disclaimer - I'm not the best at identifying species, so please let me know if I got any wrong. Thanks* Agave Americana: Dypsis lutescens? (not sure on this one): Dasylirion wheeleri: Yucca faxoniana? (not 100% on this one either): Trachycarpus fortunei: Cordyline australis 'red sensation': Alocasia macrorrhizos (maybe?…
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Palm Suggestions?
by ahosey01- 10 replies
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Hello, I am new to keeping palms, but not new to keeping plants. I recently purchased a new home that was on an unfinished, dirt lot. In the backyard, I went with a Baja California theme. I planted a Cardon Cactus, an Ocotillo, two large Brahea armata, and have a spot reserved for a Boojum tree - which are typically best transplanted in the fall. In the front yard, I went with a palm theme. I have a large Phoenix dactylifera, and four small palms. One is a Phoenix canariensis, one is a Bismarckia nobilis, and two are Mediterranean Fan Palms. I also have two Alluaudia procera with all of the palms. My area (Wickenburg, AZ) is 9a - low 9b. It can ge…
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