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That’s definitely a good sign

So far a bit of cool tolerance, a good sign.

A great palm the basilonga, with a lot of Chrysalidocarpus you can see the similarities. Baronii you can see so many that all very similar but a slight difference between them. Arenarium is a good example so similar looking to others in the genus. They do have a weak petiole as juvenile palms. Saintlucei is the same as a young palm they don’t like wind. Now you have to find a saintlucei for the garden I see you have a bit room left on that steep embankment in your garden one would grow well there with protection as juvenile. Richard

Archontophoenix readily hybridize IMO. Ive grown A. Purpurea from seed up to two generations here in Florida. The true, pure A. purpurea doesn't grow here in South FL...too hot. However, I've planted crosses which do grow here. Likely A. purpurea x alexandrae. True A. purpurea has a lot of white on undersides of leaflets.. JD

I have my pets getting in on the action. Our younger dog chases them when they fly low. Our cats are indoors only except when walking in the yard in their harnesses with leashes. The leashes don't stop them from jumping at them. While the cats have never caught an SAPW, one just nabbed a similar size June bug 2 nights ago. Klaus, our purebred Tijuana rescue street dog, has actually caught a weevil but he didn't like it and dropped it. I got to finish his work for him. Good dog Klaus!

Very interesting what Dowe says. How this form escaped from widespread cultivation I don’t know. Yeah, I used to think Eungella was the furthest northern Bangalow population but recently I found that Mt Elliott had them and that is the northern most limit. I wanted to check that area out but we just ran out of time in Townsville. It’s not an easy climb either. About 12hrs one way and the track now goes through private land meaning it’s more than just a “let’s have a quick look” type of place. It’s also the place where the stepped trunk version of alexandrae comes from. I think it’s been called Archontophoenix alexandrae var beatricea. I think for Archontophoenix the real jewels are up in the clouds at altitude. We went to the town of Paluma for a quick look and it’s at 1000m asl. It was 27C on the coastal plain and 18C when we got up there. Lots of Calamus australis and moti, and the first place we’ve found Laccospadix australasica and in large amounts. Beautiful place up there. We didn’t find any Livistonas up there but we were likely on the wrong track for them. Paluma roughly marks the start of the Wet Tropics. After that you’re in Licuala territory.

Thats a beauty im always down for seeds, i'll throw em around see what takes.

You have to keep in mind Sabal palmetto does work in Tennessee but only the southernmost counties of West Tenn, and maybe a few tiny pockets in East tenn. It'll actually naturalize in my area. The key is having good genetics

Agree w/ others growing them in CA ..and here in AZ. S. minor? = Pretty much fool proof in this part of the world. If you like the idea of incorporating them into your palm collection, plant one and see how you like it.. Would be far more interesting / unique of an option compared to Med Fans ( = over used out here ) A few other options you might research if not dead set on S. minor? < If you haven't already > - Silvery / Blue -toned form of Saw Palmetto ( Serenoa repens ) - Mezri Palm ( Nannorrhops ritchiena ) Both will clump in time though. - Some shorter / slower growing Brahea sps that lean more blue rather than green. - Blue form of Sabal uresana ..Taller in time of course, but would fit in perfectly with the backdrop behind your property. Perfect non - Washingtonia complement to B. armata. too.

Sabal minor Var. Tennesseensis is probably closer to var. Louisiana

Oh man. That looks exactly like SAPW damage. You might want to set up a trap and see if you can confirm. I can show you how to make a trap and I could send you a few pheromone pouches too.

why not plant a replacement coconut palm in the same spot?

Im definitely guilty of being that guy after having a palm weevil fly into my back slider. In my head I looked like Brad Pitt fighting in the movie Troy but judging by my wife and kids laughter im guessing it was more like Homer Simpson trying to hula hoop.

I have one here in San Diego.... well now a ton because they've naturalized my years and I have to pull them out all the time. not only does it live here it's bullet proof. I've cut it down about 4 times and it keeps growing back because im too lazy to dig down to the growing point. after I cut all the leaves off it usually will throw a bunch of flowers and then seed. if you want a seedling or 10 let me know.

Yes. The winter of 2026 was the worst I’ve seen in 40 years here in Northern Virginia anyway. I guess SBB may have moderated a bit but the pine trees everywhere there took a real beating with limbs broken and down from the heavy mixes of frozen precip. And it stayed freezing and sub freezing for 3-4 weeks?? It was a very long duration freeze. However, with a small amount of cleanup, my two Sabal minors from this post did just great. IMHO Minors are a great choice for SBB.

about to order my second batch they are beautiful palms cant wait to plant also shipping was very smooth and well packed

Ive been spreading absurd amounts of sabal minor and sabal palmetto seeds in the woods here however this specific spot on our property I've decided to get a little more aggressive and planted Needle palms, and sabal minors, as well as Long Leaf Pine. I have no idea what I'm trying to recreate at this point, it started off as coastal scrub idea, and now it's straight up Florida Caverns State Park... Just in Tennessee. Majority of the palms have been planted literally right before the historic massive ice storm we had here last winter. So they took quite the beating compared to palms I've had planted several years ago. Somebody warned me that planting needle palms in January was a bad idea, I planted 7, 1 rotted away, 6 spear pulled and recovered. Sabal minor, only crushed and bruised up from the sleetcrete glacier Combo. For reference the sletecrete was like 4in deep or something. With a glaze that was around 2in Thick

They grow till zone 7a, the cost of the Netherlands is zone 8a and the rest I believe 7b and the east 7a!

Mid - Week update: Lala = well out to sea / Northwest of the islands now, but has exploded to Cat 4 status.. Hurricane Lala explodes to category 4 and will hit northwestern Hawaii by Wednesday night 2 possible systems on the board soon.. Unfortunately, the system anticipated to form out in the Cen. Pacific may threaten Hawaii again by the weekend / start of next week. Eyes up. https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/08/19/first-alert-forecast-could-another-storm-be-brewing-behind-lala/

Compare the leaflets on the Encephalartos horridus x longifolius (or the opposite order as I can't recall right now which was the female). It reminds me more of your plant but even it has a different lower leaflet (more like true longifolius). This is why I think it could be a hybrid. The lower leaflets of your plant resembles Encephalartos altensteinii or natalensis, while the more terminal leaflets resemble horridus. The fact that you found it in a dump indicates there was a reason someone didn't want it. While it would be a valuable plant here, my understanding is that hybrids are much more frowned upon in South Africa. Perhaps that is for a good reason. We don't have pollinators here which you have in habitat. Hybrids could potentially unintentially "pollute" the gene pool of wild habitat specimens there. Here, we have to hand pollinate, so unless someone misrepresents what they are selling as pure species, the only harm is someone having something they think is species but isn't. It won't go wild and dilute the genetics of habitat plants. A long way of saying that someone may have dumped the plant because they didn't want a hybrid, which I suspect your plant is based on what I have seen. There are plenty of folks with more knowledge and experienced eye than me, so don't take it as the last word. Here is the horridus x longifolius or longifolius x horridus, depending on which was mother and father. I have heard that this is actually a hybrid that can occur naturally when the two species are in habitat. Mine was produced through hand pollination here so was an intentional hybrid... sort of. It is a rooted pup from close to a dozen years ago, off a plant that was hand pollinated here. It is one of my slowest Encephalartos which was neglected in a pot for a while then planted in a spot it didn't like, dug back up and put in a pot and finally planted out where it is now a few years ago. It is finally found a spot where it will establish.

Tabebuia palmeri = old Synonym of H. impetiginosus. ....Same thing with the defunct Tabebuia / Handroanthus " avellanedae ". Better shot, hopefully, lol..

While the leaflets closest to the terminal ends look like they have some twist like Encephalartos horridus, it really is limited to the terminal ends on the leaves. The color is not an issue given your descrption of finding it in the rubbish heap. The waxy coating on the blue cycads can rub off over time, which is why I mentioned waiting for a new flush in my prior post. I did take a couple of photos of a pair of Encephalartos horridus, one female and the other is a male with multiple heads. The color of the female isn't as blue as it could be, because it skipped flusing the last two years to push consecutive cones. More importantly, look at the leaflets as well as how far down the rachis they continue to show some twist and spines on both specimens. The flatter leaflets on yours reminded me of my Encephalartos horridus x longifolius or it could have been the opposite, longifolius x horridus, I have forgotten. For now, here are the horridus for comparison to yours.

I will let you know. Always into sharing palms with folks! I just built a greenhouse for my seedlings , not a large scale operation by any stretch. I have many Chamaedorea Radicalis Tree form around the house ….and many seeds. I give those seeds away to folks who want them . You could just push them in the ground in the garden and they will pop up in a couple of months or so. They germinate easily and are pretty tolerant of sun and cool weather. Harry This one is about 3-4 years old , getting ready to trunk. Soon it will be over head! This was a volunteer.

Matty, how is that cutting doing? Were you successful in getting it to root and establish?

I am in zone 9b and had mild frost for two nights. Howea is a very safe option I think. Also, S. romanzoffiana and Rhapis excelsa. Mine wasn't bothered at all at 29 F. My R. regia also survived but covered in fleece; same with Ptychosperma elegans..