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Very dumb question about pots.
aztropic replied to JohnAndSancho's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEFull sun is really too much sun for a lot of plants in the southern climes. Most plants at the massive Florida producers are grown under shade cloth. As for the hot pot issue, you have to physically block the sun from directly striking the sides of the pots. In nurseries, this is accomplished as each pot in a group protects the one behind it. The very front exposed pots can be painted white, can have other empty pots or boards put in front of them, or can be dropped into 1 size larger empty pots to insulate the valuable plants roots from overheating. Direct sun on a black pot without any protection can most definitely cook the roots and kill the plant. aztropic Mesa, Arizona -
E T come home
Tracy posted a topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsExtraterrestrial? Please come home ET. Any ETS landing in your garden. This is from planet Encyclia of the cochleata species. - Today
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Hot Water
Silas_Sancona replied to Silas_Sancona's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATEWith summer settling in, a check on some SoCal. SST readings.. From the " Shore Stations " site via Scripps: Surface.. Bottom: While running near or just above normal, readings for stations north of Point Conception are mainly in the 50s(F) atm. SOTO SST Anom. check: Gulf of CA off to a warmer than avg. start. Emerging El Nino / ENSO Positive " fingerprint " clearly evident on the wide view shot.. -
Very dumb question about pots.
JohnAndSancho posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEOk. You go to any nursery and they have plants in black grower pots sitting on black poly fabric in full sun. I'm pretty sure I've cooked a couple plants that are on my patio (colocasia). It's hot. It's humid. The concrete is cooler since it's shaded. I have my watering regimen down, i know what needs more, what needs less, what i can use with just the hose (RO filter attached) and what i need to hand water with additives. I brought a struggling very expensive colocasia redemption back in the other day and the soil was HOT hot. I have one in the ground and it's doing great. Explain to me like I'm 5 why this works at nurseries and garden centers but i have issues. My full sun plants are on either chip board or cardboard and i soak that when i water, too. I'm also learning that there's a difference between "full sun" and "Mississippi in June with no clouds." If i had the money, I'd get some 4x4 posts and concrete and shade cloth. Even the bananas are starting to show signs of sunburn on older leaves and i water the piss out of everything every other day. I water until it runs out the bottom. Everything is still growing like crazy, so that's not an issue. The patio gets primarily evening sun so that shouldn't be an issue. -
ENSO La Nina El Nino history & Forecast
Silas_Sancona replied to Banana Belt's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATEFor those interested, esp. on this side of the Divide, a lengthy WX West update from Daniel Swain.. https://weatherwest.com/archives/43880 While i'm sure he'll be discussing various aspects contained within with more detailed analysis soon, the blog update serves as a catch all regarding his thoughts on how things may evolve over the months ahead. Obviously, anything regarding the winter ahead is too far off in the future to nail down this far out, but, some of his thoughts concerning ..what may come next, after summer wraps up, are worth a look. -
Feeler - banana pups and etc
JohnAndSancho replied to JohnAndSancho's topic in For SaleI've got a couple of Red Dacca that are DEFINITELY ready to be seperated and potted. I've also got a bunch of Alocasia Portora pups i need to seperate and pot. It's just been too hot to do anything and i haven't had any energy the past week. -
Chambeyronia Macrocarpa Watermellon
JohnAndSancho replied to Harry’s Palms's topic in FreebiesOh man i missed these. These are what i was waiting for. - Yesterday
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Cecropia obtusifolia planting spot
idontknowhatnametuse replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsYeah that's the reason why I want one. I like the arching branches too and the fact that they attract tons of birds. C. obtusifolia has noticeably redder new growth than C. peltata. They do have the silver undersides too. -
Cecropia obtusifolia planting spot
Silas_Sancona replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsIt's a very interesting genus of trees that definitely attracts people when they see it, esp. when you catch sight of the powdery, bright white undersides of the leaves on some sps, like peltata ( Can't remember if obtusifolia possesses the same trait or not ).. Maroon to bright reddish orange new growth is neat too.. If i could find a U.S. source for seed ..that i could trust would be fresh, either sp would be fun to try here.. I may not have enough canopy to keep them from burning during our summers ( ..and / or experiencing any frost -related damage during our uncommon, colder winters ) but, my neighbor w/ the fruit forest(s) and another neighbor have better spots to try one in their yards. Might have to ask them about bringing back cleaned seed they might be able to find while they're visiting relatives in Panama next month. -
Ceroxylon amazonicum
Hillizard replied to Jim in Los Altos's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEThis week has been a real trial for my little Ceroxylon amazonicum! Today at 3 PM the temperature... in the shade... was 106 °Fahrenheit (41.11 °Celsius). It's putting out its second leaf since it arrived at my place from Ecuador (via Florida). I'm keeping it in shade and in a deep saucer of water. Hopefully it'll put out a pinnate leaf before year's end? -
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Can Chamaedorea tepejilote and Chamaedorea microspadix live in the same space for some time?
happypalms replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEThe birds and the bees, both are required with chamaedorea! -
What is your current yard temperature?
Silas_Sancona replied to GottmitAlex's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATE103 -109F and pretty stuffy out there w/ Dew points in the lower 50s across town at 2:25PM.. Lots of clouds and occasional spit passing thru various areas so far today as well. Hot n' muggy mid to upper 80s once the sun sets, with the possibility of a shower ..or weak storm?? passing through overnight.. Pretty interesting set up across the Southwest and Mexico on the afternoon T.C. Satellite.. Upper level low lurking somewhere off northern Baja /near San Diego to our west, Subtropical high lurking across areas to our southeast = AZ ..and most of the southwest.. under some deg. of southerly flow.. Lots of storm activity beginning to build across the entire length of the S. M. Oc. from the Sonora / AZ border, down to Puerto Vallarta, with an easterly wave / inverted trough -ish feature headed west northwest toward areas of E. Mex. near and south of Tampico.. All of this creates a very intriguing forecast as we head through the weekend and into the start of Monsoon Season.. Per current thinking, weak trough / upper level low off Baja / San Diego hangs around until at least Monday, which helps maintain southerly flow into AZ from the Gulf of CA / decent southeasterly flow from Sonora. While the Subtrop. high to our east and south may shift around a little between now and Monday, it should continue to stay in a general position that helps keep some deg. of moisture moving west / northwestward across Mexico.. While rain chances may not be all that great for the valley, not out of the question someone in some part of town sees ..something, esp. if any smaller disturbances rotating up the gulf /up our way from Sonora tap deeper moisture / can bring it north into AZ. One such feature to watch for this evening / overnight into the AM hours tomorrow will be the cluster of storms brewing over N. Eastern Sonora, and activity the east side of central and northern Baja. Gravity wave activity generated by storm complexes over Sonora is another thing to watch today ( Can induce gulf surges that import deeper moisture into AZ ) If moisture from the Easterly wave further south manages to make it west across Mexico, it too could influence our weather by the start of next week.. Tucson, Phoenix, ..The Borderlands, ..or up on the Rim ..Overall, one thing is for certain, besides the heat and some hot over nights here and in Tucson, ...45 - 60deg. Dew Point readings will rule the forecast until at least next Thursday or Friday ...and possibly beyond. As mentioned, we'll see about any wet stuff, here at least. Rim Country / Mountains, Tucson and areas south and east of there? = you might get lucky.. Looking further out? Some good signs for the end of June / start of July in this weeks' 3-4 week forecast ...Fingers crossed.. Adding to this, perhaps a non - zero chance of tropically influenced activity on the horizon??.. Per today's thoughts from the ECMWF.. Fingers crossed.. -
Cecropia obtusifolia planting spot
idontknowhatnametuse replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsI've seen them in sidewalks in the Yucatan Peninsula. I have never seen them damage the concrete. I'm going to order 3 trees so I hope I get one of the opposite sex. -
Southern Hemisphere Winter 2026
Jonathan replied to cbmnz's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATEHas been super mild here as well, lowest minimum so far is 5 degrees. Looking like cooling off from Sunday onwards, or at least back down to around average for this time of year. -
Sabal Uresana Bismarckia growth comparison 15 years
sonoranfans replied to sonoranfans's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEMy uresana is a couple feet wider in crown than my bismarckia, and just about the same width as the sabal causiarum but the Causiarum has thicker heavier petioles and leaves and a thicker trunk. Mature bismarckia petioles are thicker yet and the leaves can be 9-10' wide. I am impressed by my Uresana, glad I got one, though I expect it would be happier out west in a more arid setting. Bismarckia native habitat is wet summers low 80's for highs and cool dry winters in high drainage lateritic soil, in winter there is rarely a freeze. Love those uresanas, they are even more impressive in a grove like that, I'm sure. Pictures cant really get you to the place where you appreciate size in person. All my larger palms seem to shrink in a picture.
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Cecropia obtusifolia planting spot
Silas_Sancona replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsWhen i look at observations on iNat, i see plenty of examples of these starting off in... ..or emerging from / above lots of bright shade so, ...imo, think as long as the overall light is bright during the winter where you want to plant it, you should be ok.. Could always plant two.. One in the desired spot, and another where it would get more winter sun and see how both do. Genus is Dioecious ..Is what is suggested by most info. at least.. So, if you want eventual seed to pass around, you'd need one of each sex. My biggest wonder is how the roots on these might beave in a tight spot ..if the spot in the sidewalk is limited. Especially once big ( ..and they can get quite large ) -
Texas Palms
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Iguanura palms
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in PALMS IN POTSGood job there , Richard. Did you grow that from seed? Harry
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The palm seed thread
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEOur water bill is pretty high here , but we are municipal ( city owned ) . It’s just part of growing palms in an arid climate . It’s just my wife and I so not bad . We learned how to take military showers from over 12 years on our sail boat and traveling in our motor home. Our boat didn’t have a water heater so we would fill a 3 gallon solar bag full of water and place it on our deck while we were anchored at the islands . As soon as the sun warmed the water we should hang it from the boom and stand under it to shower . The 3 gallons was enough for both of us. Of course we were young and it was an adventure. Our palms are responsible for most of our water bill. Harry
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Looking for Jubaea Hybrids
PersianPalm posted a topic in Palms/Plants/Seeds WantedHello palm community, I am looking for Jubaea hybrids. Especially: Jubaea x Butia butia x jubaea x syagrus. Also anything else with Jubaea in it. The larger the plant the better. I can pickup in california or ship. I have tried to reach out to patrick shafer but no response. If anyone has a recent email please send it to me.
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Cecropia obtusifolia planting spot
idontknowhatnametuse posted a topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsAfter failing to sprout Cecropia peltata I decided I'm just going to get saplings of this genus of trees. They will come from southwestern Chiapas, Cecropia obtusifolia is the common one down there. I want to plant one of these trees in a sidewalk but this sidewalk doesn't really get too much sunlight during winter and gets a lot during summer and spring. Is this space good for the tree or should I think of another spot? -
How Bout a 'Color' thread?
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Looking to grow potted Washington Filifera in Zone 7 of New Mexico, advice?
NMPalmjunky replied to GrayBill's topic in COLD HARDY PALMSIt can be done, but you will want to start with a large container or be prepared to transplant to a larger container before the roots become bound. Here are a couple that I started from seed.
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Finally got a Musa Basjoo!
JLM replied to DTS's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsFlood that area. It needs it bad. The cannas would probably appreciate it too haha -
A few palms for sale
mrjc replied to donpachino1983's topic in For SaleHello, are there any maya palms left? Gaussia maya? Thanks.