COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Bismarck Palm-Bismarckia nobilis
by SM458- 6 replies
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I see Bismarck Palms for sale. One time in Lowes. I think someone bought it. No longer there. I see two for sale in Home Depot. Will my climate be bearable for them? or is it too cold?
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Hi guys, I haven't tried planting zone 9 palms yet, but all my zone 8 palms did will last winter in boxes (+mulch, +heating cables/Christmas lights). So I think I could try planting my Pygmy Date Palm (which is zone 9) ? I think the worst case scenario - it can lose some leafs? I can also try adding more mulch and maybe a 2nd heating cable/Christmas lights row). Btw, I didn't see a big difference between using heating cables and Christmas lights. I did an experiment and used heating cables in half of my palms and Christmas lights in the other half of my palms. All did well and the monitors didn't show a big difference in temperature. But heating cables…
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Seed ID?
by Manalto- 12 replies
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My friends were visiting Puerto Rico and asked if they could get me anything. I asked them to get some seed from Sabal causiarum. I've never seen seed from this palm, but according to the description these are not right. Am I wrong? Any guesses what they might be?
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Texas PalmTalk member meeting
by MarcusH- 4 followers
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Since we like to spend a good amount of time talking about palm trees why not meet in person ? Since I started with the post I'm going to invite ya'll to the San Antonio River Walk . That's a good place to explore some nice palm varieties. After that we can meet wherever palm trees grow out there, Houston, CC you name it .August or September would be a good time. What do you guys think?
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T.wagnerianus Classification
by SeanK- 15 replies
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Many years ago I knew a palm enthusiast who told me, "There are splitters and there are lumpers". I guess I'm more prone to lumping similar palms into the same species. I have always questioned the differentiation between W.robusta and W.filifera. Now, I com across this one: https://www.plantdelights.com/products/trachycarpus-fortunei-wagnerianus Folks often used seed shape to classify Trachicarpus species.
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I randomly came across this trachycarpus, hiding away in the middle of some bushes (8b/9a ireland)
by Slifer00- 4 replies
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I'm intrigued. Is there any way I can help it? I estimate it to be about 3 years old, by looking at streetview. I'm surprised to see it thriving with little damage, despite there being a period of 7 days last december where the temperature did not go above 3 degrees celsius. My biggest concern is that it may be outcompeted by the bushes, they seem to grow quite fast. 4th image shows the streetview in early 2022
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Windmill Palm soil
by Colin1110082- 27 replies
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Hello, soon I will order two 18-20 or 22-24” windmill Palm from Palmpeii nursery. Is there any recommended pot size, soil type, or fertilizer/perlite? Also how much should I water? I will put it in my deck which gets sun from about 8:30ish AM-5ish PM. I’ll probably take it inside when it gets below 40, 40 is usually the lowest we go in May in the night. Though frosts can happen up until Memorial Day, so I’ll have to watch, as well as “colder” rains. For the soil would miracle gro potting mix work? Thank you
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CIDP in Dublin, Ireland
by Slifer00- 0 replies
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(image) in the gardens beside Ashtown Castle
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I just thought this was kind of interesting. I took this picture in 2018 of what appears to be a Sabal palmetto growing wild on the side of I-95 in North Carolina. I don’t remember the exact location (and, unfortunately, my old laptop didn’t preserve any metadata), though I know it was somewhere between the I-40 interchange and Fayetteville, but I couldn’t find anything by trying to retrace my steps, though I’d imagine Street View’s been updated since then.
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Windmill Palm Northern Utah??
by JakeUtah- 1 follower
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Looking into ordering a couple will palms as they claim to live in temps as low as 10° F, which is about as cold as the winters get here in Central/northern Utah. But I’m hearing mixed reviews. Am I wasting my time? Or if I’m wrapping it in a a canvas blanket through the winter will I be ok? I’ve also heard Washintonia palms might be a better option for me. Zone 5a-6A
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Prehistoric Rhapidophyllum Native Range?
by L.A.M.- 1 follower
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When thinking about it, it's kind of bizarre that my Rhapidophyllum (needle palm) shrub hasn't struggled at all under a sizable Acer saccharum (northern sugar maple) tree. A. saccharum is known to be allelopathic not only to many herbaceous plants but also to Picea glauca (white spruce), which is way bigger than any of the palms able to flourish in Tennessee and has tended to struggle to spread back into any environment with A. saccharum once a single bout of unusually hot and dry climatic conditions decimated them 8,000 years ago. That was surely even worse than the present conditions for white spruce in hot-summer climates, which do exist in the Black Hills where they'v…
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When thinking about it, it's kind of bizarre that Sabal brazoriensis (Brazoria palmetto) trees are only native to a single county immediately southwest of Houston if they're reliably cold-hardy to about zero degrees Fahrenheit and supposedly a hybrid of the common and widespread Sabal palmetto (cabbage palmetto) and Sabal minor (dwarf palmetto). It is way bigger than any of the other palms able to flourish here in Tennessee when planted (we only have wild S. minor, and even that's disputed as it is with Virginia) and naturally quite a long way out there from where wild S. palmetto trees are. Do you think S. brazoriensis was not a hybrid but a new species that evolved…
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I want to remove larger suckers from Mediterranean Fan Palms. Will I damage “parent plant”?
by DryLandPalms- 15 replies
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My “Med Palms” are now 15 - 20 years old. Because of our arid desert climate, some are only 4 to 7 feet high. Others that have had access to better irrigation are up to 12-15 feet in height. The shorter palms have sent out many suckers close together, making trimming up the trunks a nightmare. Can I cut out 3 to 5 foot trunks without harming the parent plant? Wish to open up the canopy, by sawzall or chain saw, removing most of the tall, crowded, suckers. Leaving only 4 to 5 trunks. On the tallest palms, I have always cut into the top of tiny suckers to kill them, but some of these plants were not pruned much. Seven palms are a congested mess….. Help?
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Arenga engleri 9a success 1 2
by Tropicdoc- 1 follower
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About 8 feet to tallest frond. having to cut it back at times. Partial canopy. Been below 20 F a few times now.
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Sabal palmetto progress after 4 years in the ground from a HC Palmetto : ( Sorry about the double post )
by WSimpson- 0 replies
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It's ready for its 5th warm season in the ground from a HC Palmetto . I got it from Loyd's Nursery in Wilmington , NC . They say they get them from a northern Florida source and they should be more cold hardy ? So far so good . Early June 2020 : Shaylen modeling it a few days ago . The lowest few fronds were bent down by a wet 2" snow 3 winters ago . It's the only measurable snow here in 6 years , so you can see how a small wet snow can damage palms . Luckily it's outgrowing that bent down look as I prune off the ugly . It's losing that HC look as it starts to trunk up too . It's been in the ground 4 warm seasons . This summer will be its 5th…
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It's ready for its 5th warm season in the ground from a HC Palmetto . Early June 2020 : Shaylen modeling it a few days ago . It's been in the ground almost 4 years :
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jubaea x butia
by Gville Palms- 1 follower
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I’ve known about these palms in my area for a very long time but just felt like posting a picture of them today while I’m on a walk. Such incredible palms which have definitely seen some very cold temperatures over the years. Only if these were easy to come by! Here are also some pics of a mystery palm (it is unlabeled). Looks like a mule but I’m no expert at identifying these hybrids. Regardless, it is a beauty.
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Large Sabal palmetto in Southern Oklahoma 1 2
by Alex High- 2 followers
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Hello fellow palm lovers, While searching for some cultivated palms in the towns of southern Oklahoma, I was incredibly surprised to find a photo of some quite large Sabal palmetto and Trachys at the Choctaw Casino in Durant, Oklahoma. At first, I assumed it was a photo of a resort in Florida or along the gulf coast, but then I did some more searching and it really is in Oklahoma! Not just that, but another Choctaw Casino in the town of Grant, Oklahoma also has big Sabal palmetto! Choctaw Casinos are a chain of eight Native American-owned casinos throughout Oklahoma, three of which are also resorts. They clearly like palms and probably planted them to attract visitor…
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Sylvester palm in 8B
by Rothbardian1- 2 followers
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I bought a small Sylvester in march of this year. I bought it from a dealer in TyTy, Ga, which is about 80 miles inland from where I live. I believe I might have made the wrong choice when choosing a date palm. I was initially going to buy a Phoenix dactylifera, but I was told that they weren't as cold hardy as the canary and Sylvester. He even said the dactyliferas he planted on the island (which is a full 9a/9b) didn't make it through the winter's cold. So, I ended up buying the Sylvester, taking his word for it, and also because the canary's growth would have outgrown the spot I was going to put it. After buying it, I started to reading up on the Sylvester. Now I …
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New Windmill Palm and Needle Palms in SE Va
by Peakster- 8 replies
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Hello all, well, the dream has come true. We got some landscaping done and I have my very own “palm tree” and other exotic palms in the back yard! I hope they grow nice and big I’m sure I’ll be her in February reading up on cold weather precautions!
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Is my Needle palm alive?
by PashkaTLT- 1 follower
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Hi guys, My Needle palm is not looking well after removing the winter box. But to be fair, she was already not looking well before the winter (just planted it last summer or fall). Please see the pictures. Do you think it's alive?
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How in the heck do you all identify palms
by tarnado- 5 replies
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I came across a grove of some fine-lookkng Trachycarpus pas today. The sun was even shining! However, when I got closer I discovered something strange - the fruits/seeds were much different than T. fortunei fruits I've seen on other Trachys around. The Norma type is kidney-shaped ('reniform' according to Palmpedia). However, these fruits are clustered and a completely different shape. What on earth is going on he
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How aggressive should I be with fungi?
by PashkaTLT- 1 follower
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Hi guys, I've seen a miracle today. I removed the winter boxes from my palms and they are all alive. This is such a weird feeling to see palms after a winter. This is my first time. Anyway, some of the palms got infected with fungi, because it was very moist inside the boxes. I cut the infected leafs and sprayed the palms with hydrogen peroxide very thoroughly. Do you think this is enough, or I should do anything else? Also, I think the fungi can be in the earth now, I've seen some. Do I need to maybe water the palms with some fungicide mixed in the water so it will clear the earth? Kind regards, Pavel
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Transplanting medium (2 ft) Trachycarpus
by tarnado- 5 replies
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So, in one of the verges of an abandoned lot here in town, there is a Trachycarpus palm growing in the bushes. I don't know if it is a self-seeded specimen; there is another 12 ft tall speciment in the same lot about 40 feet away (surrounded by gravel, next to a fence). I was hoping to salvage the little palm, in the photo, circled. However, I can't find reliable advice on how to handle the transplanting process. Any advice? Location is Fidalgo Island, Washington State USA.
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My North Texas Palm story
by FriscoOasis- 3 followers
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Hello All, We had a new backyard put in and it was finished in March 2020. Yes, right with COVID started. We had a beautiful 8ft tall Pindo Palm as the centerpiece and 2 Sabal palms. I think they are Texas Sabals. Fast forward 1 snowmageddon and 1 flash freeze of this past winter and it is obvious to me that the pindo is going to eventfully choke and die as each winter the crown that produces anything is getting smaller and smaller. The Sabals are fairing better but the same thing is happening. I take great care every winter and go thru a herculean effort before the hard freezes occur. Multiple layers, heat tape or incandescent lights and layers to trap the …
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