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Palms and pet animals show us your favourite picture
happypalms posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEOk we mostly have had a pet or two in our lives. And these special little creatures are the love of our lives. They ask for nothing in return, with souls that reach into our hearts beyond the furthest reaches in our mind. The love they offer is like no other. So what’s your favourite palm and pet picture!Sari the Calyptrogyne ghiesbreghtiana! -
Zamia splendens SEEDLings -Pot of 10
NatureGirl replied to NatureGirl's topic in For SaleSold, Thanks - Today
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So What Caught Your Eye Today?
sgvcns replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDELocally prolific near Nha Trang -
Cycad cones and flushes
Gallop replied to Urban Rainforest's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
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Mississippi Squad
happypalms replied to JohnAndSancho's topic in PALMS IN POTSThey will always be your best friend no matter what. I lost my 19 year old kitty Kat, she passed away in the wife’s arms I couldn’t take her to the vet. -
Brahea aculeata
Phoenikakias replied to ExperimentalGrower's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEIt may change to green/greener as it gets older, at least this had happened to my onwn specimen. On the other hand it nay also have some genes from Brahea armata. -
A little more progress on the new palm greenhouse
happypalms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEPut a bar in there for a pit stop with all the top shelf goodies. That’s the plan spring, you gotta see how many new seedlings I have to pot up, I couldn’t do them in winter. Made that mistake before and lost to many. -
Should I gamble on kings?
happypalms replied to SCVpalmenthusiast's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEYou could try a few Australian Livistona palms. They’re pretty tough! I can’t grow coconuts due to being ten minutes inland from the ocean, but they can grow them on the coast just ten minutes away, so that’s a great example of zones being totally different. Yet all classed as a subtropical zone. So understanding microclimates is a big advantage that you can only fully understand if you live in that zone’s microclimate. Australia has a lot of beautiful looking tough plants, especially the wildflower small shrubs and trees, while not a country known for having hundreds of unique palms we do have some good ones. I live 3 hours south of the Queensland border and that border region is very rich in microclimates that is pretty well much up there with the other top palm growing areas. My climate suits Madagascar, New Caledonia, South America and the Asia regions. While you can’t grow a lot of the top tropicals, you certainly can grow a lot especially with all the new palms coming into cultivation. With a microclimate that I understand and know it’s one of the advantages of knowing your climate. I don’t go by the books or internet saying it needs this zone to survive, some of the top tropicals from around the globe are in my collection once unthought of growing in a subtropical climate. -
A little more progress on the new palm greenhouse
Jonathan replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEReckon you might need to install a train station halfway down...it's pretty long! Looking like it's going to be ready for spring. -
What's the problem with this photo?
Jonathan replied to tropicbreeze's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEIt's Washingtonia??? Looks pretty awful, whatever it is, poor thing. -
Aloidendron ramosissimum
Silas_Sancona replied to Tracy's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms...Their Bismarck was quite the " growing well in Tucson " surprise when i made my first visit there after the move here back in '16. May have asked Gene about it but, ..it's been awhile, lol. I visited to get info on some rarer, regionally native tree sps some people i'd known from Desert Survivors had mentioned Gene might be growing. ..and to pick up some other stuff. My pair of Cyrtocarpa edulis, a very rare ( ..for now.. ) .. and really neat tree from southern Baja came from his place. Anyway, I'd wanted to meet / talk with his other half but never seemed to cross paths with her whenever i was in town. Yeah, that's the thing about Bach's ..Visited once, enjoyed the visit / picked up a couple things but, their nursery seemed a bit more " standard fare " than say the trips to Aridlands. If it was grown in one of the greenhouses / under shade, that may explain why the leaves are a bit long, compared to other specimens i've seen. When you go to Tohono Chul ..and /or make a trip to Aridlands, you might get a better idea of how " pure " it may ..or may not.. be. Bob, over at Aridlands, is the go to guru when it comes to African succulents, having traveled all over South Africa. Imagine if you showed him a couple shots of the plant, he'd be able to tell if there's something mixed in w/ it's genetics, or if it's just stretched out a little. Regarding Chinese Elms, I will say they aren't nearly as bad ( ...of a non -native, temperate tree option ) as Siberian Elm, which are horrible and do look similar.. That said, there have been reports from various areas of these invading highly irrigated areas outside of cultivated settings, even here in AZ. They are also susceptible to random, sudden die back as well, like a lot of non natives that are better suited to consistently moister areas ( Elms are typically found near streams ). Being a " Riparian habitat " - type tree, they can have lots of thirsty surface roots, vs. desert trees that produce deep, anchoring taproots and a smaller degree of near surface lateral roots. There is an Apartment complex w/ several Chinese / Lacebark Elms lining a portion of the property and they do look good / are maintained well, but i've seen sizable pieces sheered off of a few of them after some of our bigger storms, and some die back on others. Have seen them drop dead as soon as regular irrigation is cut off in other areas. Since it is bigger than it looks in the background of the picture w/ a view of your yard, i'd probably just let it be and see what happens. 10ft away from it will probably be alright, just remember the Aloe will require much less water than the Elm. As far as Mesquite and Palo Verde go, ...for the most part, majority of those you and i see blow down / sheer off in large sections after storms are the non - native Mesquite ( Pure species and cultivars involving the South American species, IE: Argentine / Chilean ..and what many refer to as " Swamp -'Squites, which are all the rando hybrids between those two, and /or a couple of our local native sps most of the nurseries sell ) Spadefoot Nursery did a good write up on the subject awhile back. Part of the reason they ...and the hybrid Palo Verde.. ( IE: Desert Museum ) collapse, ...or fully uproot in storms... is due to 3 reasons, 1: extremely fast growth, which often = weak / weak -er wood. 2: How they are maintained, Palo Verde esp. " Lion Tailing " = trimming technique guaranteed to lead to storm damage. See that occur every year, w/ out fail up here... 3: Providing WAYYYYYYY......... too much water in cultivated settings. #3 leads to 1, and is made worse by #2. Of the species, Blue ( Parkinsonia florida ) and Palo Brea ( Parkinsonia praecox ) like -some- moisture since they do grow close to larger streams out in the desert. That said, what moisture they get in habitat is far less than what is provided in many parks / commercial landscapes, so their overall growth rate is moderate/ steady compared to cultivated specimens. Honestly, while i like them all, Ft. Hill / Little - Leaf Palo Verde, Parkinsonia microphylla, is the only P.V. i'd plant, since it is the toughest / needs the least amount of water after establishment. These are the Palo Verde you'll see growing alongside Saguaros in the driest areas out in the desert. Honestly, after 11 years of observation, of all the " desert " trees i've seen daily since moving here, Ironwood ( Olneya tesota ) and TX. Ebony are the two trees i rarely see suffer damage in storms. Last big storm we had a week or so ago was bad enough that it damaged several roofs pretty badly in the neighborhood and took down one of the big traffic signal poles ( Multi - signal, Mast - Arm type ) near the hospital. TX Ebony and Ironwood planted on the same corner? not a branch stripped off of them. By contrast? good sized section of a Palo Verde managed to sheer off one of several planted across the street, and blow into the front yard at the old house, after crossing a 6 lane road with a 12ft wide island in the center. Pretty wild. I've watched limbs get ripped off of others / entire specimens get ripped out of the ground over there over the years during storms as well. When i'd examine those ripped out of the ground? ground was always wet / roots rotting. Neighbor's South American Mesquites? While the top of one looks like it came down recently, i'm surprised all 3 haven't been torn to shreds this year. Since moving here, those trees have suffered major damage 4 times. Massive Mesquite at the old house, which sits just across the alley from our neighbors? Have sat and watched it during some of the worst storms we've had. Only thing it has ever dropped? really old, really dead small branches. Pretty sure its a species from central Mexico ( Neltuma laevigata ). -
Brahea aculeata
ExperimentalGrower replied to ExperimentalGrower's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE -
Here we go again - creating Pepe'ekeo Palm Paradise
realarch replied to Hilo Jason's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEGlad to hear the damage wasn’t near as severe for everyone as I was expecting and really glad the subsequent storm decided to move southward. We were off island during the event, but the tenants stepped up and kept us updated. We have cut down numerous palms and other trees over the years, some with a bit of regret, in preparation for events like this. Not a matter of if, but when. This time it paid off. We can deal with high rainfall, but the wind is terrifying. Tim -
Is this a Attalea butyracea or Attalea cohune?
realarch replied to Patch's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDERick, you’ve shrunk! Good lord man, look at that thing…..’Litttle Audrey II’, don’t get too close. Thanks for the info about the garden tour, be nice to revisit. Tracy, thankfully the frond drop on these monsters and others like them, are more infrequent than one would expect, but when they do it requires a bit of work for disposal. It takes a Sawzall to cut the frond into smaller sections with the thinner parts of the rachis and pinnae used as mulch straight away. The pinnae are removed on the thicker sections and again, used as mulch, the cleaned stems are then taken to the green waste dump. The saw makes quick work of the process, (my favorite tool), and they are tossed into the, ‘perpetual state of loading,’ truck bed. The life of an urban palm farmer. Tim -
Some great buys on eBay down under let’s discuss the real cost of rare exotic palms
happypalms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEIam a hobby grower or is it hobby obsessed grower who loves palms. It’s my retirement fund my hobby something to help pay the bills along the way, and if I can make a few extra bucks even better, a lot of what I make now goes back into the hobby. To survive in business nowadays it’s a tough act, you also need to spend money to make money. Sooner or later theres a cut off point with any business it has to pay for itself. Even if I was an accountant I would still be doing this as a hobby at a lose or profit. Time is another factor with palms, grow 30 joeys to sell and by the time you get to sell them for a few decent bucks, you should have been growing them by the hundreds, saying to yourself I wish I had more joeys. You can’t put a cost on your hobby otherwise I stops being a hobby and a business that either goes broke or makes money! -
Some great buys on eBay down under let’s discuss the real cost of rare exotic palms
happypalms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEIam in it for the love of palms and I love palms that’s for sure. As I quoted before I will sell more golden canes than joeys in any given sale day. Iam also in it for a ten year plan and if i havent made a go of it by then iam wasting my time. It’s the passion for plants and gardening that drives my bus. I have a mate he does the markets with all those easy to grow granny plants, we discuss our business ventures together, I know he will sell more of the granny plants than I will sell rare and exotic at the markets, so as you say out come the golden canes from my nursery to the markets or I will miss a sale. But in the other hand I only have to sell 4 rare palms and i equal my mates sales. I know the market iam after, my prices are what I have paid for rare palms in the past and will continue to pay what I think is a reasonable price, the grower deserves what he asks for his plants I should know because iam a grower and understand what it takes to procure and grow such beautiful exotics. Go giving them away and somebody else will profit of my hard work. It’s not easy importing seeds only to get one seed to germinate out of a hundred, or even worse nothing germinated out 300 seeds, better still pay all that for seeds only to have them confiscated at the border. Fairs fair and it’s crazy palm nuts like you and I that are taking the risk, both winning and losing. But look on the bright side I get the best of the best for my garden plus some! -
What's the problem with this photo?
tropicbreeze posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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Some great buys on eBay down under let’s discuss the real cost of rare exotic palms
happypalms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEIt certainly does depend on location, the are I live in has some of the highest unemployment in and some of the lowest wages in Australia. Drive 3 to 4 hours north and you can smell the money in the air along with the extravagant lifestyle and spending that goes with it. That extravagant lifestyle is the market iam after. When you factor in the cost of electricity and freight costs, you can buy a $10 dollar plant on eBay and pay $20 postage. It’s the whole economic situation that keeps on driving up the cost of everything while wages stay the same, and at the current rate the way the world economy is going the cost of everything is totally out of control. So if iam spending x amount on things just to produce palms, let alone the cost of seeds and the import fees, add into that you have to make a living, Iam going to go broke real fast. For sure locally sourced seeds and seeds from the garden will reduce the price quite a lot, and market availability like any other bussiness supply and demand sets the prices on thise locally sourced seeds. -
Aloidendron ramosissimum
CaryElTucson replied to Tracy's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsThe day I purchased the Dicho, Gene was there and welcomed us with a short preview. It was my first time stepping in there even though I had driven by it hundreds of times. My mother happens to live in the neighborhood (pobrecita) so I always drive by and look at the Bismarck palm in front of the nursery. So a couple weeks ago I met his wife and she gave me some good tips on how to get my young Bismarck rolling since it seems to struggle to grow in height. The Ramo I purchased at Bach’s and I’m thinking it’s from a cutting and not from seed. They have them in the large covered greenhouse so I’m sure they live it in there with the heat. So what’s your experience with Chinese elms? The one have I planted about 6 years ago from a 15 gallon. It’s now ruffly about 15 tall with the canopy stretching about 15-20 feet. The spot would be about 8-10 fr away from the trunk. I would hate to yank that thing since it’s producing some nice shade now. Plus, I’ve seen how my neighbors have had their mesquites and paloverdes torn down by the storm winds.
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Texas Palms
thyerr01 replied to MarcusH's topic in COLD HARDY PALMSThe fruit will turn dark red when it ripens. I have had good germination rates with fresh Arenga seed previously.
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TEXAS 2026
Chester B replied to Chester B's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATEI'm at the point that I think they don't know, they won't ever know. It could be really cold, and yet again in Year 4 here I'm hoping for an average winter. All 3 have been one half to one full growing zone colder. We're in maybe week 3 of 100F degree temps, and I can't even remember when we were below 90, let alone 95F. Its been a hot year. I have many badly burnt and dead plants, fortunately all the palms aside from Trachycarpus are thriving. -
Is this a Attalea butyracea or Attalea cohune?
Rick Kelley replied to Patch's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEHere is my 5 gallon Attlelea cohune from FB that went in the ground in 2015. Still no trunk despite heavy fertilizer over the years. I almost never cut off an old frond. Not sure how that works. The specimen that Tim showed above will get another visit by the Hawaii Island Palm Society in two months. We will tour Davis Dalbok's beautiful Mahonu Garden in Opihikao assuming they didn't suffer any serious hurricane damage. I'm guessing 13 years growth will have produced an even more impressive specimen. -
What is your current yard temperature?
96720 replied to GottmitAlex's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATEYes @Silas_Sancona is right 112 today on my thermometer but I like the heat much much better than cold I hate cold and what we have here most people wouldn’t think it was cold but I hate it!!!!! And I find it amazing at how tuff plants are with the heat my greenhouse was 125 when I got home a few days ago the belt had broken on the cooler so I don’t know how hot it was in the middle of the day probably around 140 or so and yes plants did have a lot of damage but I think almost all will survive!!!
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Texas Palms
Robert Cade Ross replied to MarcusH's topic in COLD HARDY PALMSIt’s loaded with two visible brackets of seed . Not sure what they look like ripe . This Arenga did not even burn after the 2022 Christmas freeze when Galveston dipped below 20° there are even fruiting Everglades palms on the property finally getting some size after being killed to the ground in 2021. -
Palms and Others of Interest
kinzyjr replied to kinzyjr's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE@LowDesertBoil Your plants look great with the backdrop of all of the deep green! Hope your tiling job went well. That's a blue collar job that is more of an art form. A lot is happening in the garden to get it ready for a few planned Fall showings. The weeds have been out of control this year, so there are currently three large piles waiting for their return to the earth... from a single garden bed that is not yet finished. That said, negativity is bad for a person, so here is one of the piles from my driveway bed, flanked by plants with some new borders. The bamboo has used this year to start annexing property. The clump has gotten wider than expected. Some of the new shoots are oval-ed in red. Even in a bad year, you get some kind of harvest. This year, we got our first pineapple. It's good to have friends in high places. This December will mark ten years of me and @DoomsDave trading seeds, stories, mistakes, dreams and aspirations. One of the seed batches Dave sent included Chrysalidocarpus plumosus. All of them that I haven't sold spent the entire winter outside. None took damage, including this one that has been in the ground for a while and put out its first pinnate frond earlier this month. 24oF and not a scratch. Often regarded as an impossible palm here due to our extreme heat and humidity combined with copious amounts of nematodes, Chrysalidocarpus decipiens from @Fishinsteeg234 went in the ground last June as a 2-leaf seedling is still going strong through its second summer, come 24oF or 101oF. I did lose the companions I bought for it, but that doesn't mean more are out of the question. This photo shows the first split-leaf, a new occurrence since the last photo in May. After seeing the performance of the Zombia antillarum at Lake Hollingsworth, I decided to start adding a few in some of the spots that opened up in the yard. This is one of a couple I plan on adding. The one just got a small layer of cut-up pine bark nugget mulch today. My host gift plant for the Fall 2022 CFPACS Meeting was an Encephalartos ferox. It has started to cone. Since two of my large coconuts survived the big freeze, two more were added. On the left is an Atlantic Tall seedling from @redant 's large 2010 survivor. On the right is a Panama Tall I got from @Plantking165 .