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Again my words probably weren’t chosen right. I don’t know how this palm was overlooked and never entered widespread cultivation. However what you’ve said Richard is quite correct. If you live in an area where Archontophoenix are wild and you grow a number of non native Archontophoenix in your garden, there is an increased risk of hybridisation and contamination of the wild environment.

Interesting it’s said it escaped from cultivation, thuu oy a iscthe one fear I have with any of my archontophoenix species, cross contamination with the local population of Bangalows in my area sooner or later. With it known in my area that archontophoenix have moved habitat from birds ( blueberry's farms attracting birds) expanding their habitat. So what will happen in the years to come when my archontophoenix species set seeds and are dispersed throughout the mountains and valleys. For sure cross pollination is going to happen and the local gene pool will be split up. So it’s a dilemma that needs to be addressed, so do I cut down my Alexander and purpurea, myolensis, tuckeri, it’s a mixed bag of lollies out there!

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Hi there, thank you for your insights! I agree, I will avoid to start mixing my own fertilizer. Its just that my alfredii need some solution. The mangan or iron doesnt get into the plant in sufficient volumes. I have tried various levels of sun / light. Would you change the soil when repotting? Generally I always hear that people just add soil with the next bigger pot. I do see that many different species have different needs. But on the other hand, most palms seem to be fine with the "usual" special palm mix. I do find it logical, that rainforest understory palms get a significant amount of their nutrients via the water dripping from the big trees. So, I want to try this with my Kerriodoxa, Chamaedorea, Joey, and so on. In very low dosis of course. Many greetings to down under, Matti

Hi Tom, thanks a lot for your thourough info. Most appreciated. While most of some additional 30 species of all sorts of palm trees grow pretty well here, these alfredii give me a headache. They grow these very bright fronds for some more than a year already. Unless its heat wave I let the soil dry out. They are in more than partial shade. I agree: I rather avoid playing with adding single elements. I am using the RPS fertilizer for two years already. My tab water is not very hard. But it seems that it makes the soil alkaline (lime build-up). I read that Madagascar has rather acidic soils. Some ai also assumed that this is a problem for alfredii in the whole Mediterranean. In short: I will try to do foliar feeding with a low level of the RPS fertilizer. And see whether this is getting me anywhere. Greetings, Matti

Good to know about temperatures

Here is a pic of my 5 plants . It will be at least a year before they can be planted , maybe longer . They are just starting to send their second leaf . Harry If you look , they have that gloss to the leaf , much like my C. Lanceolatus.

This tree is dying completely but I would like to note think about that this minute. Lipstick palms can do it a majority of the year on the east fringes of the coast provided it has heated water and is in a protected spot but it’s the drops down to 5 and two you have to watch particularly July and August. Due to cyrtostachys renda being cold sensitive lacking in natural oil I have learned it’s best to keep them in heated water inside with lighting. The best palm to grow outside in the Sydney region east coast preferably and is cold hardy and provides more colour is the Areca vestaria

Epic lightning and thunder last night at 2-3AM, woke me up. I looked at the radar and it raining north of here between here and tampa. As it approached my place, the radar image of precipitation just vanished. Then 15-20 minutes later, the thunder roared and rumbled to the south. I am hoping rain fell in substantial amounts somewhere nearby to help relieve the drought. At my place the accumulated rainfall was so little, it didnt wet the bottom of my straight walled rain gage bucket. I'll call it getting spit on, 0.0x whatever. Still I am hoping it fell and accumulated somewhere so we can get back to normal irrigation schedules.

They certainly like cooler climates . I’m afraid I’m a little too far inland , like my friend Dave. It would probably grow but struggle . Harry These are growing very well , about 5 miles from the coast in Ventura California. Towering over the second story of apartment building where they were planted by the Sullivans. They are on the north side of the building so they got plenty of shade when they were young. When I was first introduced to these palms , they were still well below the building .

The stem on that one is certainly dark in color. As far as I know , mine will be as @tim_brissy_13 says . It probably won’t show signs of C. Blacki until many years . It will look pretty much the same as C. Lanceolatus . This variety is more robust , from what I have read. It gets its name from Larry Black who first noticed it in cultivation here in Southern California. The seeds came to me from @DoomsDave and germinated easily but I only ended up with 5 plants. I am hoping all 5 will go on to be plants now that they have passed the early stage . Harry

So, Richard, let's hope and pray that the good Lord grants us a long life. I had this species and I really liked it. (many of your seeds have germinated,again thanks) Even if we are far away, I always thank you

The lightning and thunder last night was the most intense ive seen since i moved here. 1.75 inches isnt the most in a storm, but a significant amount still- especially this summer. Hopefully rainy season comes back for a little while until october and doesnt leave the first day of the month.

I wouldn’t really say it’s a hothouse, more like a cold frame with plastic over it. It is a hothouse but the temperature would have only been up two around 22 degrees celcius. And dropping down to 6 degrees celcius. At least it’s a warm place that’s better than a greenhouse in winter.

All I know about this palm is black stem, so iam really trying to find what it really is. And if Harry’s palm has any resemblance and from what you say it sounds like it won’t have any resemblance. Back to the drawing board for this palm as to what it really is.

That’s a different palm Richard - C baronii ‘Black Petiole / Vokona Lodge / Black stem etc etc’. Harry’s C blackii are very similar to C lanceolatus and recently described from cultivation.

A really good sign! What have your temperatures been in the hothouse this winter?

That same storm gave me a drenching 0.09". I was almost washed away 😤

Not yet unfortunately, male and female plants needed. It is a female, and I do have a male plant, but I as m still trying to work them out. Plus still trying to work out when the male pollen is ready. I will work it out and when I do, seeds will be available to you!

Mister Richard: does it produce seeds?

A nice Areca and linospadix go into the garden. The mandacanii is a rather intriguing looking palm. Not a lot of pictures out there of this one. And the good old Australian palm the linospadix minor is a sure winner for any garden. Two more great collecter palms worthy of any garden.

Don’t those Tasmaniacs grow Hedyscepe? @Jonathan and @Tassie_Troy1971

A reasonable growth rate, not a rocket ship but definitely a good paced growing palm, considering how slow some palms can be. Ten years time you will have a nice solid palm to look at with a bit of trunk if growing under good conditions.

That’s a beautiful palm! I hear they grow fast to very fast. My friend has an 8 or 9 year old Ravenea gluaca and it’s about 15 ft tall. I have a 29 year old Ravenea madagascariensis ‘Monticola’ which looks very similar to R. glauca.