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And I posted some more bamboo destruction over in the Bamboo Thread. I took out my big clump of Bambusa "Nana" aka xThrysocalamus Liang aka Quail large leaf clone near the garage. It was another "too big too fast" type that was also not too cold hardy. 100% of the culms died at 22.5F and left me with HEAVY solid culms to clean up. I planted it in April 2023 and it had grown to a 5' diameter clump over 2' deep with huge underground culms starting. The existing dead ones were 2-3" diameter and 28-35' tall, so it was likely going to get even bigger this summer. At that height it was too close to the house. I had a clump of Dendrocalamus Hamiltonii flop over in a hurricane in the same spot, so I was not about to repeat it! In the same spot I planted a Schizostachyum "Murray Island." This was a suggestion from @Brad52 and is supposed to be around 15' tall and 0.75" diameter. Hardiness reports vary, but it might be ok to either 28F or 35F...we'll see! On the other side of the van I had a Gigantochloa "Malaysian Black" that I took out in mid-June. I originally planted it in July 2022 next to my East pathway, and then discovered it had a very spreading top. I moved it in 2024 to a spot that I hoped would work, but all the new culms just started growing out at a 45 degree angle. It was a continuous hassle to cut back, and then all the culms died in the February freeze. The leaves are huge and have a neat ripply look: But the culms start shooting out at about a 30 degree angle, and then bend further. The clump ended up being (almost) wider than it was tall. In some yards that might work great, but not for me! They also never really turned black like Lako, and just stayed kind of a dark brown.

Oops upside down well since I don’t know how to edit a post I can’t flip them so anyway here’s some upside down labels.

First new palms for me in two or three years.

They hate palms, is all I can think of!

Chambeyronia Sold Out

@Keys6505 I'd guess some kind of Multiplex, given the tiny leaves. Initially I thought Glaucophylla, but the leaves on that are variegated. There are several small Multiplex like "Fernleaf." If the culms are a sort of tan/pinkish then it could be Multiplex "Rosa." It's also somewhat similar to my Dendrocalamopsis Variostriata.

That's a really nice one! It's called 'Florida Beauty.' Readily available via Mail Order, direct from Caladium dealers/growers (e.g., Florida Boys Caladiums shows it in bulk on their website and vendors on platforms like Etsy also sell individual bulbs/plants).

@kinzyjr my biggest foe right now is the heat. It's pretty common to see a heat index of 110-120F in the afternoon, so I can really only work for 30 minutes at a time. I'll drink over a gallon of water during the day and still get dehydrated. I'll work for 30, sit inside in the A/C in front of the fan for 30, rinse and repeat. So this week I consolidated my agave beds due to all the deaths from February. I lost a whopping 77 agaves, aloes and cacti and only 51 survivors in the rear two beds. With a 60% mortality rate I'm just not going to bother replacing the non-hardy ones. Here's a partial list of deaths: Aloe Betsileensis, Ovatispina "Blue Rapture", Montana "Blue Ocean", Mangave "Pineapple Punch", Aloe Swordfish, Montana, Dragon Toes, Ovatifolia "Vanzie", Attenuata "Raea's Gold", Mangave "Blue Dart", Attenuata Boutin Blue, Attenuata Ray of Light, Mangave "Frosted Elegance", Potatorum unknown, Celsii Multicolor, Aloe "Hercules", Montana "Blue Sky", Mangave "Tooth Fairy", Bracteosa "Daddy Longlegs", Parryi Huachucensis Excelsior, Lophantha "La Bufa Baby", Cereus Cristata, Xylonacantha "Frostbite", Lophantha green, Lophantha Quadricolor, Sun Glow, Americana Variegata, "Stairway to Heaven", Aloe "Marsha Layhew", "Mad Cow", Mangave "Blazing Saddles", Mangave "Praying Hands", Bracteosa "Mateo", Americana Lemon Lime, Agave Obscura "Red Skyline", Seemanniana x Potatorum, Dragon Toes, Weberi, Salmiana "Crassispina", Guiengola "Moto Sierra", Mangave "Lavender Lady", Horrida, Seemanniana x Isthmensis, Potatorum "Snowfall", Aloe "Wildfire", Vilmoriniana "Stained Glass", Potatorum "Cameron Blue", Impressa, "Devil's Tongue" Ferocactus Latispinus, "x Leo", Wercklei, Valenciana, Mangave "Macho Mocha", Aloe Vaombe, "Blue Ember", "Pokey Ghost", Opuntia Violacea "Santa Rita", Titanota "White Ice", "Mad Cow", "Royal Spine", Salmiana "Beast", Salmiani, Marmorata, Weberi blue, Manfreda Maculosa. In the SE side I kept the area around the "Bluebell Giants" and moved about 8 agaves into that area. Surviving moves are Crazy Horse, a couple of Ripple Effect, Mr. Ripple, three Salmiana, a questionable Blue Glow: And in the center rear bed I moved another 5 survivors into this center rear bed, Montana "Baccarat," Ovaticata, Snow Leopard, Dragon Toes/Magnifica, and Filifera x Isthmensis: And in the front yard over the septic drainfield 5 more survivors: a Bluebell Giants, Mr. Ripple, and Ripple Effect offsets, a Franzosinii and Salmiana "Logan Calhoun":

104F + 60deg Dew Point = feels like 109 out there at 11:29am. Interesting day ..and evening.. ahead? ..both locally and west of AZ? possibly.. Morning Sat. check: 4C / Subtropical high quickly shifting toward Cen. UT and CO, ....where areas in Montana, Wyoming and points east may see temps reach / exceed ....110F.. Increasing east / southeasterly flow under it ( ...overhead.. ) pretty easy to see. Buildups starting to fire over the White Mtns / areas over S.E. AZ and S.M.Oc. in Sonora. Remnant, well defined Meso - cyclone looking blob just about ready to cross N. Baja as it quickly skirts across the top of the Gulf.. All of that equals.. ..While the AM forecasts have been a bit ..timid.. regarding the potential for Thunderstorm activity reaching the valley, HRRR runs this morning have ..so far at least.. been quite bullish on getting ..some deg. ... of activity into at least the east valley by this evening ..Possibly lasting deep into the overnight hours.. Because it only < currently > includes this corner of the valley, Blanket " Blowing Dust Advisory " hoisted for the area today may be well under done ..In terms of dust storm potential for the valley later.. Again, As aggressive as storm activity is looking to our south / east on the HRRR runs right now, we could see a Haboob - type event vs. just some diffuse dust reaching the area.. Don't be surprised it the advisory area is expanded valley -wide later on this afternoon.. Storm -wise? " Marginal " risk < for severe storms > has been extended to PHX. ..Was confined to areas south of Casa Grande earlier. With the " Slight Risk " area expanded, that points to increased chances that storm activity down there could be strong enough to generate an outflow that may be able to generate ..at least.. widely scattered showers / storms closer to the valley ..if not in valley itself... later today / tonight. IMO, Current, " 10% chance for a storm or two here in Chandler tonight " from the NWS = may be 20 =25% under the actual chance for activity tonight. We shall see.. For now, tomorrow's storm risk potential from the SPC has increased as well.. Further west? Spinny thing quickly headed toward the coast near Tijuana / San Diego may spark showers across S. Cal ..if it hugs the coast a little more than some forecasts suggest atm. ....or send this first wave of high - based showers ..and/or storms.. toward the Central Coast / Bay Area/ Sac. Valley.. ..If the bulk of moisture associated with it rotates further offshore before turning north toward the coast.. This isn't the only chance for Monsoon Season showers / storms out there, either.. Tonight's / tomorrow's activity here will send the next pulse of moisture westward. Locally, if it can blow around, get it locked down.. Know what to do if on the road and caught in a dust storm. Fingers crossed for some rain.. Let's see what the evening has in store..

It’s possible but I’ve found Kevin’s tags are right on. If there is any question to ID, they won’t be tagged. Definitely bought a few of those from him too. I have a few “Debaoensis” from different growers and they look similar. Way different than the aforementioned. Either way, the conversations about Debo and Multi are plentiful and will likely never slow down. I’m going to continue to push the Debo ID’s. 👍🏻 -dale

Thank you for your reply! @ankiwo and also sorry for my very late answers🥲. It should be depending on which size your container is, but I believe salak cannot bear fruits while in a container. They should be placed on to the ground to bear fruits. This is because when palms are only growing in a container it will lacked the nutrients and will stunt the whole plant. The suckers grow the same as the parent. Different sexes could only grow through seeds. I am pretty sure animals won't go near them due to its spiny spikes. That's why Salak has evolved over time to protect its fruits and parts from dangers. Salak doesn't have deep roots, they only thrive about 10 to 50 cm down according to google. Extra! You mentioned you're in Central FL. I believe the climate there isn't really enough for this kind of palm. Salak must really grow in deep moisture and intense sun, but NOT dry! It is also not the cold hardy ones, so better to keep this palm in a container so you could put it indoor when it is winter. I am sure it will be fine in a container as long as you care it carefully! Btw, how is your Salak now? Has it grow already?

Some color…

Fresh Sainte Lucei and C laceolata in the rising sun.

Pelagodoxa mesocarpa - $6 each - (only about 90 available)Chambeyronia macrocarpa - .50 each- (only 80 available)Pinanga ‘blue seed’- small amount- .25 eachBentinckia condapanna- small amount . 25 eachAllagoptera arenaria - .25 eachBeachpalms@cfl.rr.comPelagodoxa are easy to germinate. What I do, is put seeds inside the house, in the AC, for about a week. Then I try cracking outer shell using light pressure with a nut cracker. If they don’t crack easily, leave a few more days. Soon, you will hear the crack, then you can gently remove outer shell carefully with a knife. This speeds up germination. If you decide to sow them with the ‘shell on’ I have heard they sprout fine this way too. It just takes longer.

The ancient myrrh of the Three Wise Men. I would love to get hold of ancient Judean date palm seeds. You certainly have interesting things—more interesting than all the combined content of this forum.

Hi.i am a comiphora plant collector ,i have the real genuine fresh commiphora giladensis tree seeds,i like to exchange it with: Commiphora wildii Commiphora guidottii Commiphora madagascariensis Commiphora kataf Or any other amazing aroma comiphoras or boswellas Thanks

Perhaps fertilizer burn?

What timing! I was just up the ladder yesterday . My large C. Obtusa had a frond that was overhanging my neighbor’s driveway and their cars were gone. I cut it with my pole mounted chainsaw. Crash! It came down . I had to use the street to cut it up. Super heavy and filled one of our green cans after I chopped it up. They are beautiful palms , each new frond is like a whole new palm. Harry

Nice looking cross, thanks for sharing. Odds are though it's a multifrondis that was used for the cross. There was some serious debate years ago about many seed lots being sold as debaoensis that turned out not to be.l and even recent seed batches have turned out not to be. Lots of discussions in the FB cycad groups on this.

Thank you , Richard . That helps , I’m learning as I go here . Once they get leaflets I plan to slowly move them into my garden , I do know they prefer it cool . Especially while young. If they are similar to Howea in requirement , we got this . Harry

Yep you’re right about South America, I have the right conditions for it so iam in luck with it.

Here’s an update on my ones, dead, cold weather got them!

If you want a good canopy , Syagrus R. is a great option . They are messy when they flower but the bees love them and bees are great environmental friends. @gyuseppe , beautiful palms! I bet they provide a nice bit of shade for that part of your garden. All but one of my Queen palms are prolific seed producers . Most of the time I have the spathes cut as soon as they show up , but with all of the palms it’s hard to keep up so I get volunteers in the garden. Fortunately the seedlings are very slow growers. Once the plumose fronds emerge ….look out! Rocket ships. Harry

The amount of things I have learned on palmtalk has been amazing, some very good growers out there, palmtalk is such a large t as lent pool. I had my ones originally on heat mats and read what you said about just normal room temperature is fine, so we learnt of each other, in this case! I find treat them like a Howea species a bit like masoala madascariensis, that is what I have learnt about them! Richard