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Looks like some decent caudex swelling which equals great root expansion!

awesome palms. Did you have any folded leaflets on your palms ? looks like awesome growth over 10 years and a much bigger trunk than butias.

Yeah there is a lot of filifera there with the thick trunks, stiff petioles. I see no signs of robusta but it could be 90% filifera with multiple generation crossings. The price of removal is eye watering.

I have a regular Butia with hooks, purchased from Lowes. Boron deficiency can cause this.

hooked leaves are a trait of the crosses too. Here is my B x J with hooks. I have seen a few dozen crosses at that size, looks like butia mother, jubaea pollination like mine Here are the hooks on mine 10 years ago before planting and here is the palm today, in an 8 month drought. Do not use overhead water when and if you irrigate it, as it will lead to mold spots. Mine is just escaping the the ground dew and has few mold spots these days, just a small amount on the lowest leaf or two. There was a time I almost removed it for the spotting, putting in the lawn was a bad idea in humid florida. Glad I didnt rip it out, its getting more impressive every year now. This one came from jungle music in california.

I dont know a 100% but from all I gather I believe this is a jubaea x butia. My reasons are: the petioles are unarmed completey, a trait of the jubaea. Some of the leafs have hooks at the end, there are a lot of folded leaflets as well. From my understanding these are traits from hybrids and jubaea, not butias.

I have a causiarum and the width of the crown is very similar to the uresana. The uresana has longer petioles and smaller leaves. I am surprised how much less shade it throws than causiarum which is also much less than bismarckia. The view up on my uresana appears most sparse of the three but it is wide, ~ 25' I think. biz crown Uresana crown lighter shade. Being closer to the uresana my lens cant get any wider(17-55mm cannon EFS crop frame). The uresana also has a thick trunk with leaf based on, similar to my Biz with a smooth trunk. The pavers are 9" on one side 11" on the other. I see 3 of them on the 11" side is about the thickness of the trunk base.

June 10 2026 update Not seeing a ton of change, maybe a new frond but I can’t really see up there. It seems to be more like summer weather now. The jackfruits are jumping to action I wonder how tall theyll get this year.

How long in the ground and from what size chester? I would also comment that bismarckias like deep roots, water for the bizzie, not for the shallow rooted plants. A plant water cycle for mine would cause them to suffer. I had (2) one eaten by weevils had a low spot with neighbors irrigation and mine nearby at staggered times(by necessity, HOA well pump alternates houses) and the soil was not great draining. I tried growing roses near one of mine in arizona, I had great roses but the Biz was not cold hardy being continually wet and kicked it one winter while 3 others no so situated with plants did ok and came back strong from the cold. I learned that you either prioritize the plants or the bizzie, cant do both. Some palms do great with water lovers nearby. My biz is separated from the water lovers. I saw a few mature ones 25-30' tall in miami that were in that rocky wet soil they have down there in some places and they had think trunks('a tad less than 18" base) and I could move the crowns with a push on the trunk, not root stabilized. My bizmarckia has a swollen base of 33" thick.

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Do you still have any Chambeyronia oliviformis? If so, can you ship to New Smyrna Beach?

A few of the palms this June. Sabal uresana, Sabal palmetto "Lisa" and Butia odorata to the right. Neighbors's CIDPs behind. Washingtonia robusta CIDP Butia yatay x Jubaea chilensis Phoenix sylvestris Bismarckia nobilis Trachycarpus latisectus

Bismarckia is about a foot taller than the uresana but does have a small trunk.

I have both of these palms, planted at in 2024 at roughly the same size as yours were. So far the Bismarckia is growing faster, but mine loses a lot of fronds to cold each winter so it slows it down. The uresana is growing a whole lot faster than I was expecting based on what people have said, and the glacial pace the seedlings grow. The first time I went and saw some of the very large uresana around here I was shocked at how big the crown was, they are behemoths. Planted in the same area are some mature Sabal causiarum and there is virtually no size difference between uresana and causiarum. Same enormous canopy, same chonky trunks.

Original palm is not a pure Jubaea. Personally I don't think this is even a Butia x Jubaea. Looks an awful lot like Butia odorata var "Strictior" to me

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I agree this is a hybrid. Doesn't look like either parent species, but has traits of both. But do you know if this is BxJ or JxB? The latter is a more finicky palm when small.

Jesus, a real beast! Mine is still 1 foot tall and it is 3yo 😄

this is what I have seen. My sister had 2 installed 12 years ago that were just starting to trunk at the shore here in FL. They planted one in sand near the road edge in what looked like mostly beach sand(the lot was 200' to the gulf water) and one in the garden with rich amended soil. The one in the garden died within 2 years., the one on the road edge has survived 100mph plus winds and 5' of salt water in hurricane MIlton and a couple feet of water in hurricane IAN three years before. It did a lot better than her house which had to be removed after MIlton. I saw it earlier this spring, Its a navissana sargentii and it has 5' trunk ~12 years after install. It has had no irrigation since Milton hit in Oct 2024, just whatever rain fell. Almost all of her garden was killed by the water or lack of irrigation. It was fruiting so I grabbed a few seeds. Read palmpedia, they report palms hate slow drainage and rich soil, seems to be what I saw. I find palms in pots are harder to keep happy in general, they tend to cook in sun and naturally dont drain as well due to the small holes in the bottom compared with open soil. My little sargentii's are in 30% perlite combined with a potting mix, I will be monitoring the soil through he bottom holes.. They are slow, very slow. In a dry climate I would probably try to look at the dry cycle closely in those pots and half day sun. In humid climates they take sun pretty well. But in a dry/hot season leaf transpiration losses will be greater for sure. @AZtropic grows these in arizona desert just about as well as any I've seen in Florida. Watering in a dry climate might be a bit tricky without monitoring the soil moisture. They also like alkaline soils according to palmpedia. I bought some dolomite aquarium gravel for my little ones.

The rainy season is DOA locally. For the next week, we have the west wind pushing rain away.

Succes!

Hawaii has a very nice tropical climate and for the most part very good soil. Where I’m from originally, Kalihi Valley, it rains almost every night. All the tropical plants thrive without needing any water. I wish San Diego had more rain!