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Good call I don't either on second look. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bbfEoabIR7YFc8uhdYoTqWBnNmqXo1OY/view

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Yep. The growers are not worried about the long term health of the palms. They just want to sell an eye catching pot full of palms for people to put in a dark corner of their living space, and replace 6 months later when they no longer look fresh. It's a market. When I lived in Minnesota, the cool thing to do was to buy a 15 or 25 gallon queen palm and plant it as an annual in your front yard. No chance of survival past October, but definitely an attention getter and conversation starter all summer...🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

They do all righ in Santa Monica California too. Show yours Dr. Andy!

I don’t understand putting so many Livistona Chinensis in one pot. The trunks , eventually , get pretty big . Some retailers sell palms in community pots that should have been separated at the seedling stage. Both those would be better grown as singles. Harry

Oh my , that’s quite the “shovel”. Harry

Very interesting information! I have found out also a couple other distinctive features of the dwarf form compared to the trunking one. Leaves of former have a rougher texture and seeds are smaller. Latter has a more glabrous texture and a subglaucous color on petioles and leaflets, perhaps due to more sun and wind exposure. Also seeds of latter are bigger. My oldest radicalis had been bought from Germany as a plant with already pinnate leaves, which had identical texture the the rest plants from your seeds. It used to remain for ever dwarf too, but I had the impression that it had a subterranean, creeping small trunk, just like Howea belmoreana. Unfortunately it got pissed to death by my dog.

Why do you think I plan on keeping this thread alive forever? 😝

Well, they were made with the first seeds that arrived in the 1980s from the USA to a friend of mine. (I hope the chamaedorea seeds I sent you yesterday arrive.)

Absolutely no trunk. Just leaf sheathes protruding from soi, meaning that half of the leaf base remains under surface. Those plan5s are older than the nearby trunking ones.

A nice row of hookeri with almost three in a row putting on show.

Dont you love getting up early just to head of to work, we spend our chiliensis getting up early just to go to school, now we do the same, only difference is we get to wonder around our garden before work. Gone are the days of sleeping in!

A small Wollemi in the garden, they are very tough. So if you have one waiting to be planted dont be afraid of planting it, there super tough.

A nice satakentia tucked in for the approaching winter.

Of course my friend!

And they produce fruit in a little more than a year after planting…

A few more rhapis in the collection.chojuayahme ahyame kannonchikushima

A lot more landscaping needs to be done for all the new varieties. But I have the perfect little shovel I just purchased for the job, iam sure it is well suited to do the job!

Here’s a few more heterospathe elatadypsis sanctamariedypsis confusabeccariophoenix madascariensis

Konstantinos the low form comes from my seeds?

I don’t see many sabinara on palmtalk, iam sure they are out there I just don’t see many here. I have 4 in the ground and a few seedlings. Surely iam not the only one growing them, are there any Australians in a subtropical zone growing them. Or am I the only one growing them this far south.

Omg shes a trunk and a half that one, I have yet to see my trunkless ones get a trunk. So iam not sure about this myth I have heard. When you say dwarf do you mean a variety that is smaller than the other trunkless varieties or just a stocky plant without a trun?

HI Len, I have sent you a mp. Thanks 🙂