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Bring on the red.

Richard, here we only have small mice and they don't eat the seeds, but the blackbirds and turtle doves do eat the seeds.

Sounds like it will end in tears 😭

I remember the day I planted this agave some 30 years ago. Time is one of the best gardening techniques around!

They don’t come any tougher than this one!

Those beloved rats that all palm growers could do without, have a fondness for chamaedorea seeds. Clever little sods I say and on the menu is chamaedorea adscendens seeds. If I didn’t place these simple clip lock sandwich bags over them I wouldn’t get a lot of seeds. It’s a proven method that works for me.

A nice chamaedorea elegans, one you don’t see much off around these pages!

Very pretty specimen. The display of its 'burlap' is unique. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

That’s exactly what you do with them, this way you don’t get that huge one dozen mother plants that grow into a monster. Single individual plants are much more attractive. Soon you will have a lot canes to plant around your garden!

Picked up some mass planted seedlings the other day as it looked as though a couple of them might have some dwarf genetics, separated them into there own pots. What do you think, not normal right?

If they were discovered yesterday in habitat, omg they would be in such demand. The yellow colour they have is rather beautiful. It’s only the fact they have been around for decades that they are overlooked. Richard

It is a lot of work, but unfortunately it’s the only solution to a big problem, gas guns to chasing them in motorcycles, fake hawks hanging around the farm, even flying kites they think it’s an eagle above them. And those birds travel a long way returning seasonally each year, they know the food sources on the migration routes. Clever birds I say. Richard

No flower but Heres a doozy of a brom, and the best part is I know the name Neoroglia cats pyjamas. Only because I just purchased it! @Jonathan

Sounds good to me, I’ll take a dozen!

You’re welcome, and there is even a few variegated ones getting around. You just never know your luck in shopping for them. Enjoy your palm and dont fuss over it. Overwater is one thing to be careful of indoors!

Brahea clara

Brahea ‘Super Silver’ is thought to be a variant of calcarea, and the petioles appear to confirm that.

A few more species of mine to compare to… Brahea dulcis ‘silver’grows in the eastern half of Mexico

That seems like a lot of work but probably the best solution. The birds are too smart for scarecrows! I believe the birds are responsible for the naturalization of a few palms here in Southern California. Harry

Interesting plant. I had to look it up. Gossler farms out of Oregon has them listed currently and they ship, never ordered from them so can't personally vouch for them.

I have a yucca rostrata growing here in Missouri. Last winter was it's 1st. Completely unprotected planted in clay with a little limestone gravel. It saw a low of 1f and highs of 100f. Very similar temperatures to what you described. It's on the north side of my property no where near my house. It is planted on a slope and I dug a small channel and filled it with gravel so it would drain well. The plant was a decent sized five gallon when initially planted. It's doubled in size since last summer but not trunking yet. So in my opinion, your protected site with excellent drainage and it being a large specimen, I think it will do well.

Chamaedorea metallica inflorescence looking colorful today. Tim

Thank you all for your replies. The information has been incredibly helpful, and the Kentia photos are beautiful. They make me want to get another one and keep it outside :-).

No seed worries, yet... Just pollen. That tree appears to be a male. aztropic Mesa, Arizona