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In a country such as Australia with some of the deadliest snakes in the world, and with 4 of the deadliest snakes in the world in my area I fully understand the snake thing well, and having great big piles of palm mulch lying around is not a good practice for sure. Another danger factor for me is the fire threat from such a pile of palm leaves, a mound 8 feet tall of palm leaves waiting to explode in flames in bushfire conditions in my area is a serious threat so I have to burn those leaves in winter as part of a fire management protection in summer. Which is an interesting issue who would have thought about a palm garden creating a fire danger threat! I also live in a very large area of national parks and state. Have a google for Yuragir national park NSW Australia, with my property at Halfway creek Grays road and there’s no shortage of eucalyptus trees that’s for sure, and you will see how large of an area, and when it comes to the critters I live in their habitat so all creatures great and small are welcome @happypalms And I got some more mulch, and iam in mulch heaven, loving life in the bush with my garden, where the world alone doesn’t bother me!

That’s exactly what they can become, monsters out of control going on a rampage in the garden. And they are definitely best kept away from none gardening people who just want a palm by the pool or in that tiny courtyard. With no real knowledge of palms they can be a disaster in the wrong hands!

There best kept in check that’s for sure. Richard

Will look into it for you, the seed was supplied by our dear friend @palmtreesforpleasure so he has the actual answer to what the true variety is in question!

Some magical little Australian native flowers adding that winter warmth in the heart!

Got a photo of the C elatior stem Richard? Very young to have fully pinnate fronds like that. Might be C tacanensis.

It seems impossible in the US to find a straight Cycas panzhihuaensis

Other seasons it has looked decent again by Christmas. Other years it has looked fine by Christmas. Once at least two new healthy fronds open, it distracts the eye from any remaining damaged ones. I tend to think that it would be hard for an overnight radiation freeze, sandwiched by double digit (C) temperatures the day before and after to completely kill an otherwise healthy and established bungalow. No hurry to see that theory tested however. It's hard to see in the early morning light in the rush to get to work, but it looks like it still has some green remaining, which will help. Good news is that from what I can see, a near neighbour's ones look fine. They (house and palms) are on isolated small rise in an otherwise flat area - they sit about 6-8m higher. Glad for that, as for some angles from home, their now sizable and flourising bangalows form a nice background/horizon that complements the view of my own palms. I know that place has sold since the people that planted those palms were there. New owners could be forgiven for not taking into account that this was the worst feeze in 10 years and not wanting to look at damaged palms for a few months. So far, my two other bungalows and everything else looks untouched but won't really know till the weekend to see in broad daylight. I still have pepper plants that look just the same as they did in mid summer (they are against a north facing wall of house and were covered as well).

This can happen following heavy rainfall events and very wet soils. It is usually not serious unless it is followed by a second or third malformed leaf.

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That’s pretty good growth for three years . Juvenile palms grow slow but speed up (usually) when they get about that size . Harry

No, I live in Ocean Springs Ms

The Allagoptera is a wimp in the ultimate sense. It outlived the Chambeyronia only because it is so close to the ground. Once it gets larger, it will be subject to the real cold. Is there a Pseudophoenix in there anywhere? The Thrinax also surprises me. I lost a larger one in 2010 at 25F. Show me a living Kentiopsis, please!! If not, their so-called hardiness is mythical.

Surely 🤪😶

If it was older seed I would want to see how they germinate so just 10-20. But if new seed from this season upcoming probably 100s or even a thousand.

So stunning!!!!! Thank you!

Not cheap cutting down trees , hindsight is a wonderful thing. I have a white cedar tree that’s next to go when the funds are available. The pines get so tall as well, so a lot of distance is covered in one falling. And there nothing better than a trip to Europe, I was fortunate enough to stay with a family in Budapest for 6 weeks. There’s always next year for a Europe trip, for me now give me the South Pacific islands, at least they have tropical palms.

One more tree down is one less to bother me in future. We did get a tree lopper in to take out 2 live trees near the shadehouse back in 2024 and one near the house. The trees nearer the house are half the size. None are an issue near the house. But those 3 trees to cut down cost me a trip to Europe. This tree that came down was healthy and a long way from the shadehouse. But even though it was healthy, it had grown up in a forest not on its own. So now it’s gone there are no more trees in that area. They’re all gone. It’s still not over yet. There are still more trees dying after the floods of 2021. Those pine trees have all grafted their roots together. I know that from digging new plants in. So if one trees gets a fungus or bacteria they pass it to the next. However it has slowed way down now.

i agree with aztropic. the roots look like they rotted in transit. you can try to salvage them whatever way you can though. i'd try soaking them in peroxide after cutting the rotten ends off. but even the top one looks pretty bad and it has spots of possible rot even near where it started sprouting. chances are the rot already spread all the way down.

@aztropic Thanks. I think I'll try only the top one. The 2nd one seems unlikely. Bummer. Then again, I only have space for one. The ones in pot would be just backups in case the one in ground does not sprout. I didn't realize how big Borassus seeds are. I knew the fruit was huge but the seeds are no joke.

How many you after, I’ll have some in 6-8 weeks or so. I usually have a few thousand.

I don't think either of the sprouted ones will make it. Pot them up, sure, but don't expect anything to happen. If you don't see any sign of a leaf after a month, root has probably rotted.🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Hi. I had recently ordered some Borassus aethiopum seeds (from a vendor I had purchased seeds of other palms before and I found very reliable). Problem is, 2 out of 3 came in already sprouted. The largest seed, which is the one I have planted (directly in the ground), had NOT sprouted and I am hoping it is viable and it just was a bit slower. These two, though, I am not sure what to do and if they are salvageable or not. One seems to have a root damaged and soft/mushy halfway through (the one on the bottom), the other one has a stronger root and it clearly less damaged, but the tip is indeed somewhat damaged and it seems it is shaped like a "hook". Does it look like I should attempt to salvage these? I have pots deep enough for these to grow (they are 4 feet deep). I could absolutely use a backup if one in the ground does not sprout, but I don't want to attempt to grow a plant that will get stunted and die (especially in the case of the one with the healthier root, which is healthier but not going straight). Any advice?

Thanks. Any photo of your beauty?