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Hesperaloe ...for your Tushy? ..and Darwin's Saxifrage: Two " that's Interesting " Plant stories for the week..
Silas_Sancona posted a topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsCould fiber from one of the commonest plants seen in local / regional arid -themed landscapes replace wood pulp in future Toilet paper.. https://www.aol.com/articles/andrex-maker-plots-toilet-paper-050000000.html He theorized it was possible. 150 years later, his theory was proven correct.. https://phys.org/news/2026-08-sticky-alpine-darwin-year-carnivorous.html -
Update on the stuff in the backyard
Estlander replied to JLM's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDELet’s hope for better winters going forward! Statistically, we should have warmer ones lined up after these last few colder ones. Definitely go with the Mules, they’re great. Yes, the droopy one looks awesome. Sadly, out of the four that I have only one has the droopy characteristics. Seems to be a rare trait.
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Pics of the crop
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEAnother fine tour of Happy palms! So , is that a plumeria in the first pic? I wouldn’t have thought them to be deciduous in your sub tropical climate . Harry
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Pics of the crop
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Palm Help Post Malibu Fire
R-Banger replied to R-Banger's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDESurprised the rostratas didn’t bloom This year as they all overwintered with no hiccups. Hoping next year they bloom up good.
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Palm Help Post Malibu Fire
R-Banger replied to R-Banger's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDESome good news the Alfie is pushing through it so it’s going to be okay. Going to be ugly for 2 years but I’m just relieved it didn’t miss a beat. That tree is tough as nails. Spoke with the county and they were shocked anyone would have cut it that way but the got it added to a list to be maintained by the owner only so this will hopefully never happen again. The Pritchardia and Pandanus are going full throttle and back to normal. My heliconia rostratas I transplanted to my rental have absolutely taken off and I got some ptychosperma salomonenses in pots here that I am hoping to get some size on and plant out when we move back or buy a new home. Will get some updated pictures.
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Ptychosperma Sanderianum hits the dirt !
happypalms replied to Harry’s Palms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDENice one, who needs patience when you’re a palm grower. Just plant em in the ground, my motto is if there is no frost in the garden or threat of frost, then the best time to plant anything is 20 years ago! Hot, cold, wet, dry to me it doesn’t matter. If the plant has survived these conditions in a container already in the collection then it’s fair game for planting in the garden, keep em coming Harry, there’s always room for one more palm in the garden, somewhere 🤣 Richard -
Xanthorrhoea in habitat
happypalms posted a topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsAn extremely tough plant capable of surviving some very harsh conditions, drought, fire and unbearable heat in summer. Growing around 1cm a year so a tall specimen is of a great age. There is a hidden beauty growing in the environment if you look closely, but at a first glance you just see a harsh environment that’s unforgiving to the weak. Yet in that diversity is a wonderful symbiotic relationship going on with the plants and animals, this is what makes the Australian bush so wonderful! -
Cold Hardy Inge Hoffman Archontophoenix cunninghamia seeds
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Livistona Australis deadly little juvenile thorns
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEBetter weeds than human pin cushion ! Harry
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Ptychosperma Sanderianum hits the dirt !
Harry’s Palms posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEI finally got a palm planted this afternoon. I’ve been waiting for cooler weather but it ain’t happening so impatience won. I came home with this palm after visiting @DoomsDave a few weeks ago. It is one of about 5 or 6 palms I adopted. This one is just a bit of a push for my climate but I’m pretty confident it will be fine. I chose a nice spot that only gets sun after about 1:30pm and only for about 3 hours this time of year. As it grows , it will see just a bit more . Palmpedia says these like a warm tropical to sub tropical climate and like a rather sunny location. Digging holes in rocky soil with many mature palms sending out feeder roots is a chore , especially in 89f temperature! I dug out three fist sized rocks and chopped through a bunch of roots . There will be enough room in this spot for a few stems if it decides to clump( very likely). Harry It doesn’t look like much right now but in a few years, it will be looking great! If you are growing this species , post pics so I can dream!😂
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Livistona Australis deadly little juvenile thorns
Jonathan replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEI find that even if I look at them the wrong way I get scratched, stabbed, torn and bloody. Weeding around a young L australis is not work for the faint of heart, so mine are weed infested! -
What is your current yard temperature?
Silas_Sancona replied to GottmitAlex's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATE107 - 109F and sunny w/ some haze and humidity at 1:43PM on your first Friday of the final month of Summer 2026.. Should top out in the 108 - lower 110's later on.. Storms/ ..Not today ..here at least.. Looking at the weekend ahead / into next week? While it won't be as extreme as it has been, unseasonable heat and associated excessive heat warning we've been under since ........................... appears as though it will come to an end by Sunday ..Finally.. That said, if temps over perform, esp. come Monday, the weather service could tack on one more day. As it appears right now, temps. should get knocked back by Tuesday as the 4C high wanders back toward the Cen. / Southern Plains / Gulf States next week. While longer term thoughts from all the WX models remain far from consistent / all over the place / whatever you wanna call it ..as has been the case over the last couple weeks.. current thoughts are that the eastward re positioning of the 4C High forecast for next week should allow another ..dare i say ..decent.. moisture surge back into AZ ..More widespread than it has been of late at least.. Will that finally bring us here around the valley more than just the back to back, late night Cat. 5 Dust storm events we've seen lately? We shall see.. Been a pretty weird summer so far.. While the mountains / Rim north and east of town, and a good chunk of the Borderlands have seen pretty good rains so far this season, Rim / Mountains north and east of PHX: Tucson ..and the Borderlands... No way to get around the obvious across most of Cen. AZ atm.. At a mere 0 .46", PHX is currently sitting in 3rd place for the driest Monsoon.. While they're doing better than we are, the current total in Tucson is also below norm ( 2.41" = 5th driest ) Unlike what is being seen across many areas around town, compared to the airport down there, most spots around PHX are running about as dry ..if not drier.. than what has fallen so far a Sky Harbor. Couple good downpours in your tiny, individual dot of a backyard, located in some far corner of a much bigger area = doesn't mean squat / that it has been a good year. For most around the valley, so far at least, this summer has been leaving things ..pretty thirsty.. Will that continue as we head thru the rest of August / Summer '26, / into September / the Fall season / remainder of Monsoon Season ahead? = A game of wait and see.. Again, while there are still signals of wetter than avg. conditions tucked within most of the current WX model thoughts for the remainder of Monsoon Season, based upon what i have ..and haven't.... seen, thus far, i'm staying quite critical of any " uptick in rain chance " suggestions that keep flaming out right as they should arrive in the forecasts.. Getting to that time of year where what happens in the tropics will play a big part in determining how a years' Monsoon Season ends up.. Come October 1st? under the current trajectory? Gonna be A LOT of red faced people, doing alot of reluctant explaining if the second half of the season plays out like the half we've already traversed.. -
Evergreen Oak (?) ID needed..
RainforestCafe replied to Zone7Bpalmguy's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsNot 100% sure, but that looks alot like a laurel oak to me. I've got a bunch of them on my property and the leaves look very similar to live oak, but if you hold a live oak leaf in your hand, the laurel oak leaves are slightly less stiff. -
St. Augustine, Anastasia Island. 9b. Looking for recommendations for interesting palms or tropicals to grow in yard and garden
RainforestCafe replied to SeaLaVie's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE@SeaLaVie that property you have is amazing! With all that open space, I'd start planting a bunch of live oaks first and foremost. I've found that when grown in tighter spacing, they can actually fill in an area pretty quick. If they're planted 20' apart then you're not waiting for one tree to shade the entire area, which can take a lifetime. Instead each tree only needs to have a 20' crown and they'll all work together to shade a huge area. If you planted a bunch of live oaks, I'd bet you could have great shade and canopy coverage in 10 years. I'd also bring in a bunch of the mature sabal palms. Then you only have to wait ~3 years for their crown to grow back in and you've got mature palms. That'd give you alot more options in the future for plantings. -
Satakentia liukiuensis fast growing
sonoranfans replied to Scott W's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEyeah another of my palms in the process of growing taller than I want. I like them right where they are at 8'+ trunk.
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So What Caught Your Eye Today?
Brad52 replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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New SEEDs fresh
NatureGirl replied to NatureGirl's topic in For SaleI also have Clinostigma warburgii @ .25 eachPelagodoxa Sold Out.Caryota no -15 leftAiphanes minima-30 leftLic ‘Sumawongii’ lots left -
15 specimens to own!
sonoranfans replied to NewtoPalmsGirl's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEOnce again a great looking palm under harsh conditions, great job!
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Palms of Coastal Georgia
Rain52 replied to NC_Palms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEpretty sure it’s a highland coconut
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Satakentia liukiuensis fast growing
Cape Garrett replied to Scott W's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDESounds good to me!! -
sad bougainvillea
Silas_Sancona replied to Than's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than PalmsWhen you planted it, did you disturb the roots at all? IE: teasing a tightly bound rootball apart, breaking any? ....Is something mentioned a lot that can kill or temporarily set back smaller sized ones. Here at least, older, well established specimens? you can chop a big spiny menace to a nubby 5" stump poking out of the ground and they'll explode w/ new growth within a couple weeks of being hacked. ..is something you see landscape " slaughter crews " do w/ Bougs planted in various commercial / highway landscapes just about every spring here. The specimens i yanked this past spring were 6' x 5' before i chopped them to the ground inc. using an axe head to chisel out chunks of the above ground portion of the burl / some of the roots on one of them ( = figured that would end it.. ) Nope, it started to throw new growth from the remaining stumpy burl within days ..which is when i yanked what was left, and it's buddy.. Did the planted specimen that died receive the same light exposure as the healthy one? or does the healthy one see ..even slightly different.. conditions ( say more shade thru the hottest part of the day compared to the dead one? ) If both saw the same conditions, and they were getting the same amount of irrigation than something else got the dead one.. And i highly doubt it involves the soil being modified vs being planted in natural / existing soil.. Again, from experience, while amending soil certainly doesn't hurt one bit, as long as it drains well / isn't a swamp, these seem to be pretty indifferent about that aspect.. If they did? i'd have lost at least half of the ones i've planted over the years, esp. here. The pot aspect is an interesting thought but not something i might place high on a list of potential causes since people keep Bougs in pots for years ( ...or far longer, lol ) as Bonsai subjects. A nursery i worked for had some hanging around in a greenhouse long enough that they were ready to go bonsai subjects ( 60% of the soil in the pots missing yet the plants were healthy and chunky and could live out their lives in a 8" deep x 14 or 16" wide Bonsai pot. ). Only caveat? If the pot is black and sits in full sun a good chunk of the day? = i'd move it to somewhere shadier since you can cook roots in a pot. Cooked ...and now decaying.. roots? = perfect environment for pathogenic fungi / bacteria issues. Shriveling / lax looking / cupped leaves, vs brown - tipping, = can all be related to too much / too little water, and other issues associated with. Most things that i see brown tipping on = quantity of dissolved salts in our water.. = un avoidable. That said, when i see it, i know i might want to ease up on any watering.. Our extreme heat + low dew points thru the summer can cause that to occur too of course.. When i see a well watered, perfectly green plant suddenly wilt / 80 -99% of green, but totally dried out leaves start shedding, w/ out any prior issue being noted ( ...brown tipping or whatever? ) = highly likely some soil borne thing got it.. Not much that can be done about that except starting over. Is ..what it is.. -
Mule palm growth rate
Chester B replied to Ben G.'s topic in COLD HARDY PALMSI'm seeing a similar growth rate. 3 years from seed they're about 5 feet tall. I planted two last year and the other two I left in pots. The ones in ground are about twice the size now. I imagine the third year in the ground being fully established will be the year they explode. Right now I would say my straight Butias are much faster than the mules. Here are a couple photos, it’s hard to get decent photos as they are surrounded by other plants. -
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Vegas Heat Transplant Shock
sonoranfans replied to PalmPrince14's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDEwatering every day for 30 mins could well be a problem. When I was in Gilbert arizona we always planted in the fall so root development could proceed without the great 110-115F heat. I also used 4, 2gph emitters and watered 9-10 pm at night(minimizes evaporation) for 4 or 5 hrs every 2-3 days. Maybe your drainage is faster so 3 hrs could work. I have friends in PHX that watered hours longer than I with 1gph drippers, but those clog easily so you have to make sure they are delivering 1gph. So lower flowrates for longer periods of time and not every day. Remember the depth of watering in clay soil depends on time not flowrate even with berms. Supplemental water at the end of the day on the super hot/dry days once or 2x a week for 10-15 mins manually by rainbird broadcast sprinkler cools whole the yard off at but doesn't make the soil soggy. Deep watering of phoenix species in the desert is recommended, and its also true for the true dates(dactylifera) though they are more tolerant. I would definitely not water every day, roots need oxygen too(soil microbes need oxygen). Am assuming your soil is clay and doesn't drain very fast. 30 mins or even 45 mins doesnt go deep. ANd an shallow depth dries out faster int he heat. what is going on at 2-3' depth is critical. You should get good moisture and a dryout. In the super not summers in phoenix, 115F or more, I watered 3x a week for established palms. Google AI on the canaries AI Overview No, established Canary Island date palms cannot take everyday watering. Daily shallow watering suffocates the roots, leading to root rot and fungal disease. Instead, they need deep, infrequent soaking once the soil dries out a bit. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Watering Needs in Nevada Established trees: Water deeply 1 to 2 times a week during peak summer heat, and every 2 to 3 weeks in winter. [1, 2] New transplants: Brand-new palms need frequent moisture to establish roots, but even then, a daily soaking is only common for the first very few days before transitioning to a few times a week. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Soil type: Nevada’s desert soil must drain well; daily irrigation combined with heavy or compacted clay will trap water and destroy the root system. [1, 2] My phoenix yard which saw 122F once, 117F a couple times, 115F at least half a dozen times in 6 years, and 30 days a year of 110F or over was typical. Even the queen palms do well with deep watering.
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Satakentia liukiuensis fast growing
Looking Glass replied to Scott W's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDENext year, those lower fronds will clear the fence. The year after, you’ll be walking under the fronds.