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Yes, very lucky! I hit 30.4F with snowlike heavy frost. The frost started forming around 7-7:30 and got really heavy around 8:30. It didn't start burning off until well after 9AM. Unsurprisingly, about a mile SE from my house there was no sign of frost...

Takil may be a question of location. Every photo I've ever seen of this Palm in the wild, it's always on mountain slopes. I think this Palm likes fast draining soil and doesn't tolerate wet feet at all. Germinating Seas requires much patience because you have to temptation to water the soil because you feel it's not germinating fast enough, but these are very slow seeds and they do not like wet medium. Especially in a controlled environment like a bag or a growing tray with the lid trapping moisture. Probably the best in Rocky Loamy soil, even a little Sandy. But I can't picture surviving in clay soil or any other soil that holds high water content. Like I said I've never seen this Palm in the Wild on any photograph drawing any coastal plain always on a hill or on pots or raised beds.

Got to 24 deg this morning. Heavy frost. 3rd time I've had this temps in the mid 20's. It's gotten below 30 quite a few times also. This is turning out to be quite a winter up here.

They should be decently established they were planted in 2023... so about full 2 growing seasons on them

wow harry !!! I remember messaging you about this & this is crazy it happened. I won't ever own a Urens... don't have the space.😅 This is my warning. My obtusa is in the ground & I am worried, but it doesn't seem as troublesome as urens. & not as risky of falling over. This situation could of been a lot worse !

Your soil mux sounds pretty good forbb be indoor growing. Your choice of palms to grow inside , they get rather large and difficult to hold back in regards to growing out of control. Perhaps a Dypsis minuta or a small growing palm to begin with would be a better choice. A little chamaedorea such as tenella a much better choice and you should be able to find one somewhere.

How established are your palms?

Y'all are 100% correct. I had been looking at loads of pictures of Cordyline in Argentina, and Chile, and around. I wasn't getting confused until this *very low quality* photo popped up. They aren't branching, either - another giveaway. I reached out to the Falkland Islands government to ask for a positive ID, since the plants are growing in front of the seat of the government. I heard back this morning from the Falkland Islands Ministry of Agriculture who stated that these are, indeed, Cordyline spp. Naturally, I followed up with a question as to whether there are any true palms growing in the Falklands... I will let you all know if I hear back!

That is a heck of a list. One day, I hope I can visiit your palm forest extravaganza! At least, keep up with you here. Those are some excellent and interesting ... and ambitious! choices. The Trithrinax campestris, I have been wondering about that here in the PNW and our wet winter regime. Lordy that's an amazing list. Patric did reach out and said that he had some B. yatay x Jubaea and Jubaea x B. yatay seedlings, but I was thinking that the yatay genetics would not be as hardy nor as wet-winter resistant as B. odorata. Do you have any thoughts or experience with the two?

You’ve got a great piece of ground up there with beautiful rich soil. You will have it turned back into rainforest (which it would have been originally) in no time. Was the property part of an old dairy farm? Once you get some canopy you could try your Hedyscepe. However I know that Oraniopsis and Laccospadix will thrive there. Plus probably another 2000 species. I would say that you are right on the border of Cyrtostachys renda territory there too. It’s an amazing property. Keep us up to date with progress.

Holla y'all. Patric emailed me and said he didn't have a list to share, but asked what I was interested in. I mentioned that I lived up in western Washington, and he wrote back that he had B. yatay x Jubaea and Jubaea x B. yatay "that might survive" up here. I was thinking that the B. yatay genetics would not be as cold-hardy or wet-resistant as B. odorata. Thoughts?

You’ve had some good rain over there. Enjoy.

After the loss of my giant live oak, I’ve been replanting the area, which is now in shockingly harsh full Alabama sun. The spot previously occupied by a Trachycarpus fortunei that bit the dust is now available. (I was told by a landscaper that windmills, especially the young ones, are iffy in this 8B climate, with the combination of sustained heat and occasional droughts.) Anyway, I’ve decided to replace it with a butia, the bluer ( or silvery, if you prefer) the better. Butias are slow, but they do well here. I’m OK with the odorata, but open to suggestions for other butia species/hybrids that may put on size a little faster, and sources that supply them. I’d be happy if it eventually looked like this one, thriving on neglect in a dicey part of town: I’m giving myself until March to find that special butia, and then, if all else fails, I’ll go the conventional route and choose the best-looking odorata from a local supplier. Worst-case scenario would be a big box butia, but that’s okay, too. Your thoughts?

Hi Jon, we'll keep you updated on Facebook... I'd like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy New Year on the forum.

It's looking like we're gonna get one heck of a cold wave this weekend on the east coast, I'm wondering should i worried for my Windmill and Sabal Minor ? Looking bad already several days below freezing and ultimate low of 9F, Neither of the palms are very old either both were planted in 2023.

I have been warned of the weed potential of this tree, so with caution it shall be watched carefully, especially in my sandy soil!

A nice gift of some seeds has seen them grow to fruition. Definitely a beautiful little tree worth growing, a great understory plant fitting in well. Thanks Gary!

@Highdesertdave Very nice pics! We are fortunate enough to have a mild winter so far (fingers crossed), so that's another reason why the washingtonias are doing better. Plus they are wrapping up there establishment stage so there roots are stronger. Heat cable is a great idea since it provides a little extra warmest on colder nights. Also, if there is an arctic blast coming our way, you can always wrap burlap around it (or throw a frost cloth over it) to trap the heat in during the event. Then take it off once temps warm back up. Wrapping the Trachycarpus aren't a real concern as they are cold hardy and like a bit more moisture. Your Butia is doing great as well. Good job on your yard and keep up the good work!

Iam starting to miss my planting expeditions. Summer I hold of on the plantings, you just don’t know how dry it can get with the high temperatures and for how long g it will stay dry. Richard

Masters of indoor growing, if the Dutch can grow it they will and do it well!

Our weather in Santa Ynez valley feels more like Santa Barbara this winter but just about the time you plant subtropicals a winter with hard freezes will return. I got a nice little crop of tangerines a couple weeks ago which isn’t always the case here in the valley close to the river( low ground ) . I was wondering Harry if you got any Jubaeopsis to germinate yet ?

I wouldn't say fast but definitely fast compared to the other Acrocomia! There was one here locally in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas that was killed in February 2021 at 22°F. Not sure of the soil type it was planted in. Here's my little guy probably going in the ground in a few weeks.

McKee Botanical Gardens in Vero Beach has a few mature fruiting palms at the main entrance and parking area. I gathered several on 2 occasions but not one of them ever sprouted. I tried soaking and warming methods but no luck. Also, Leu Gardens in Orlando has a few mature ones with a lot of volunteers popping up around the base. Im sure no one would notice if you popped a few out and put them in your purse.

I just love standing around watering that’s my excuse at least for doing nothing! Richard