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Historically royal palms have always survived in that area, even from the 1989 freeze. Coconuts on the other hand perished from that freeze, in that area. Everything labeled 10A should rebound, it will take all year, but they will recover and hopefully we get a few winters that are at least not too far below average and they will all be fine. I wouldn't guarantee anything labeled zone 10B though, like coconuts. In fact I think the coconuts and Adonidia merrillii are cooked west of US1 from about PSL northward.
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We are between the turnpike and U.S. 1.
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Colocasias
JohnAndSancho replied to JohnAndSancho's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
I am gonna be adding a lot to this thread in the coming months. I bought some bulbs from some reputable sellers with good reviews so fingers crossed. I also plan to take a knife to them so toes crossed. I bought 3 Thai Giants, 2 Hawaiian Punch, and one White Lava bulb all supposedly 2 pounds, 7-9 inches each. The Thai came from uhh Greenhouse PCA off of Amazon and the others came from Garden State Bulbs. I actually bought the Hawaiian Punch off eBay because it was cheaper there and I bought the White Lava off of Lowe's because it was cheaper there. Anyway, I guess we'll see what happens and worst case scenario I grab the coconut out of the woods and return it to them. I already got a little practice cutting bulbs from @N8ALLRIGHT and cutting banana corms from @5am so, I think I know what I'm doing, but that's usually when things go bad. It usually works out better for me when I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and just wing it. Also bought a Black Ruffle plant. -
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So What Caught Your Eye Today?
JohnAndSancho replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Gonna do a little sideways here. Was walking. Sancho and we ended up on the backside of the field where we used to have a trailer, and these are what's left of the trunks of 2 massive oak tree trunks that came down in one of the many, many tornadoes we had during Hurricane Katrina. The pictures aren't the greatest but I'm in shorts and slides. We literally watched these trees rocking back and forth for hours not knowing which way they were gonna fall. Logging companies and roofers made BANK right after that.
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It depends on how far inland you are in St. Lucie county. If you're generally east of the turnpike, then normally you'd be good. The setup we had on 02/01 was unusually bad, similar to 12/25/1989. If I remember correctly, the all time record lows on the east coast are as follows: Merritt Island 21F Patrick Space Force Base 24F Melbourne 17/19F Vero Beach 21F Fort Peirce 19F Port St. Lucie 22F West Palm Beach 24F We were not too far off from our all time record lows, about 2F to 6F in fact. What we just saw historically is almost as bad as it gets. The rest of the state was give or take was a repeat of 2010. North Florida and within about ten miles from the gulf coast fared comparatively well on this one.
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2026 2026 Florida Palmageddon Observations and Damage Photo Thread
Jimbean replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in FREEZE DAMAGE DATA
Another royal palm in habitat with freeze damage https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/340110091 -
This is a sabal(?) in dublin ireland botanic gardens. It's been here for years already but haven't grown much probably because of the vines surrounding it that leaves out in summer. Anyone can id it?
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I'm seeing this site pop up more and more in my interweb searches. It certainly appears authoritative. Is it? Is anyone from this group associated with it? Opinions welcome! https://www.viriar.com/blogs/palms-tree-encyklopedia/ravenea-hildebrandtii-hildebrandts-majesty-palm
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If we get 35 or more years I'll be a very old man by then and it probably won't matter lol. Too bad this spot gets hit much much easier than others. I counted 40 nights below 45 on my station this winter (so far, there could be another) but it's a solid zone 9b here each year but the warmest and not suitable for most exotic Florida stuff. Glad I have good canopy in the back to plant in now that I have seen how it plays out here, it has to be pretty dense to help after 12 freezes lol (but only one below 28.9, at 24.6 the second night of the big one). Oh and windbreaks need to be very dense and hurricane proof strength to be effective, like a wall of sabals and stopper, sand live oak and live oak, etc. NOT strelitzia Nicolai 🤣😐🤬
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Looks like around 35 with frost here this morning. My already damaged coconut got frost on it again. Interesting how I thought I had planted it in a charmed location near the southeast corner of my house and it has managed to get more frost on it there than anything else in my yard. I guess you just never know until the real test.
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Areca concinna pushing hard on root development
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
They are definitely wanting more room . I would put some in the ground to see how they do , unless you already know the answer. It would be nice to have at least a couple in pots for future reference. Harry -
Areca concinna pushing hard on root development
happypalms posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
A tray full of concinna in 140mm containers have decided grow new roots, vigorously pushing themselves out of there container. I think it’s time to repot or plant them in the ground.
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Welp I think I've got 4 or 5 sprouts right now. They're all pushing their 2nd or 3rd tiny blade of grass fronds and I know I don't have anything deep enough for what they're gonna need. Well, I do have buckets but my bananas are in those. I for real do not know what a fair price for these is, I've found one record of a sale of these in the last year and it was on here - so shoot me an offer and your zip code. I use UPS through Pirateship so they're not gonna get rerouted through Wisconsin or New Jersey or anything stupid like that.
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What should I do to celebrate this momentous occasion?
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Our low here a few weeks ago was close to the all-time low of 1985 for two nights + 50MPH winds. Last night it was ONLY 34°. I'm a relative newcomer here, but I thought I did my homework before I put the garden in 10 years ago. I chose poorly.
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38.3F this morning here in south Brevard. I think that's the end of it. Worst winter here in 35 years. Now let's see what survived.
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I was amazed what canopy did in the big freeze. I have z10 plants looking almost untouched at 25F, both palms and plants. They say wind chill is not felt by plants but it sure dehydrated them apparently.
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Seems like the office queen was self seeded by big mama too
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W. filifera in North Florida
quaman58 replied to Alicehunter2000's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Another time capsule thread that got me to thinking about a trip to Maui-probably 2005 or so. Making the assumption that these big robust fan palms I saw in a development had to be some wonderful tropical species, I posted a picture on this site. (Sorry, can't find it anywhere). I remember thinking maybe they were some Copernicia species; but this astute group identified them as W. filifera. Which turned out to be correct. I had assumed that there would be just way too much humidity for them, but they looked as happy as clams; big & robust with nice full crowns. Actually, I have no scientific way of knowing that clams are happy, but hopefully you get my point. -
After this year how my yard looks and how others look I have realized how important canopy is. A night in the upper 20s 27 to 30 5 hours or less has 0 effect on anything under canopy. The realy bad nights with wind and the night at 24 with no wind the stuff under canopy still out performed stuff in the open. Areca palms under canopy small ones are still alive as coukd be just a little burn. Arecas in the open torched tonthw ground. Mangos in the open torched mangos under canopy still have some green leaves or no damage at all if they are protected enough. I've learned the warm and cold spots of my yard. A thermometer didnt show much difference in these areas but the plants did. I have an 8ft tall mango in the open on the back side of my yard. I only protected it the night at 26 and 24. It went through all the nights with heavy frost and 4 or 5 nights between 27 and 29 not protected with 0 damage. Bananas under canopy on part of my yard no damage intill thw 2 bad nights etc. I now know I have no problem growing sensitive fruit trees and ficus etc under canopy. Some defolitated or burn back tiny branches but survived perfectly ok and are pushing new growth already. I am focusing on canopy. I have planted almost 15 queen palms to help with canopy. They are super invasive around me I dig most of them out of the woods behind me before they cleared it for houses. Pic of mango for reference. Its had a rough past over the last 3 years. Flooding has almost killed it twice. That problem has been mostly resolved.
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As I thought these are all volunteer self seeded queens from a former pair of fat luscious parent queens. Look at the rocketship growth rate on these things! And you still have the "queens won't grow here anymore, stop trying blah blah blah people" 🤦♂️😝 Sorry no mule palm looks like a healthy fat queen with a dense crown of giant deep green leaves.
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Beaucarnea recurvata (Ponytail Palm) in trouble?
Silas_Sancona replied to miamicuse's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
Not a single one of those plants pictured are Beaucarnea.. Look more like Yucca or Dracaena. A few of the legit Beaucarnea from the Huntington.. Note how some are branching quite high.. Not a Beauc. ( Left ) Beaucarnea r. ( right )
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Tonight's low was 33.4F at around 7AM, but with a long 5 or 6 hours in the 30s. The 10 day forecast finally calls for "normal" weather, with lows around 60 and highs in the 70s and lower 80s. I was waiting for the last frost before I started cutting off fronds, because if you take the dead canopy off...the protected stuff underneath just gets torched. I'll probably have to leave a few dead fronds on the Alfredii just for shade protection on the understory palms and cycads. @kinzyjr I'm going to go through the whole yard again and log all the death and destruction...
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2026 2026 Florida Palmageddon Observations and Damage Photo Thread
MarkC replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in FREEZE DAMAGE DATA
I got a photo of the “famous” highway 17 coconut in Fort Meade. It’s completely fried.
