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sabal palmettos in the wild look better here than those in gardens. I will echo some points, they are really slow maybe 10 feet vertical growth in 15 years. My neighbors triple added 10 feet in the time my sabal causiarum grew 35' overall, and my causiarum has a wider crown than that triple. Lots of people here plant triples. The triples can actually throw some shade. They grow tiny sparse crowns as a single, 8' wide? In a triple they look much better. The groves in the woods are stunning, curved trunks, good density. They will grow differntly out west, sabal palmettos here always have thin trunks 10" or so without leafbases and tapering somewhat smaller with height. Here is a natural stand staking over This was just after hurricane milton so they were roughed up a bit. THis next pic shows the survivor palmettos after deciduous trees were knocked down or snapped after Milton. Hurricane wInd damage favors the palmettos in a long term takeover. I cannot grow a palmetto in my yard that has the impact of a stand, and I see these stands and more several times a week walking the dog. So I dont grow sabal palmetto in my yard. IMO they just look so much better in groves. Some of the above "palmettos" look too thick to me, though the balboa park ones look spot on. Perhaps the thicker ones are more like mexicana which is a more stout relation with thicker trunks and a bigger, fuller canopy. If I were not going to plant a grove, I would go with sabal riverside, a majestic palm of bigger stature.

Sure looks like your weather has taken a 180 lately. Cold and rainy, so that should help.

Interesting. These look about the same size. Much larger than the Washingtonia seeds. I was also able to find some, what I believe to be Sylvester and a couple not quite ripe European fan palm seeds. More of those will be ready soon as well

I agree the alexanders are a lot better in florida sun than bangalows and they are ok with continually wet roots. The OP has a spot there that would not work for a bismarckia anyway, it doesn't drain and the Alfredii -which has the same soil drainage requirements as bismarckia- rotted the roots. Ive never seen an Alfredii die that fast, very few have died in 9b+. Alexanders are a lot less cold hardy(5-6 deegrees F?) than either bismarckia or BA, but they don't mind wet roots as they grow surface roots not the deep roots of the others. The alexanders may get burned when small, but he could always put a net over them for a year while they develop roots. Here is my alfredii triple 6-7 years ago back when I could still get a pic of the whole triple. These were 8+ years in the ground from a 1 gallon. They will; grow a bit faster and will get a bigger root system and canopy if you space them out little like this triple. For scale, the fence is 7'.

I sympathize with your plight. Milton damage here made me not want to be in my garden for a year. I kind of lost my hobby for that time. But the healing will happen in time. In a a couple years new growth will uplift your place.

Good to hear! It's the decline of critical thinking that worries me most...oh, and the power usage, and the water, and the job losses...meh. On topic: I bet Hedy's would do well up in the Dandenongs.

Alex will take that fine. Where I am we get up to 43c / 109f for a few days at a time, keep the water up and mulch over the roots then you wouldn't have issues. Agreed, I've found atleast till the bangalows are trunking they just get burnt. I have two Ptychosperma elegans planted both do okay in the sun, cold winter winds here make them a bit straggly. Normanbya I only had very young ones and they got fried even in dappled shade. Kentia bit like the alex and bangalows, keep water up and they can take it but definitely do better once they trunk and emerge from shade also.

Cycas panzhihuaensis x Cycas taitungensis

Nice flush on C panz x C multifrondis pushing through a pollinated cone.

Nice work. I’ve got to say though I’ll never subject one of these beauties to what would be the torture of my climate. I’m actually not sure there’s a time of year here that they’d enjoy. Perhaps briefly from late March to early May. Even our summers would be a struggle I think. I’ll leave this one for the subtropics. Geonoma stricta (pycnostachys) didn’t even survive past early June. I suspect this one would be similar in requirements.

The recent purchase at the pacsoa annual plant show, has breezed through winter temperatures not a problem. Jumping the gun a bit a week early, but in my area winter looks like it’s finished, so I cant foresee any issues with the geonoma for the time being. Not too bad for a tropical grown palm for its first winter in the subtropics. Even the small seedlings lived, the 50mm tube one sat in water all winter. They are one beautiful palm that’s for sure! @tim_brissy_13 if you can get one try it, it would be interesting to see if it would live, although it would be somewhat slow, protected in the greenhouse it may stand a chance! For me it’s a zone push winner.

Alexander are the better of the two for lots of sun, bangalows tend to yellow a bit in full sun. I have seen bangalows in full sun but that is after they have broken through the canopy and that’s with all of there habitat surrounding them in the microclimate. If you’re up for Australian palms ptychosperma elegans triple planted, Normanbya Normanbyi, I won’t dare say the foxtail palm. Howea grow quite well inland away from the coast, although iam unfamiliar with your climate zone for them, but a Howea bellmooreana would look pretty neat there, again a triple planting of fosteriana would look good.

Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle goes into the big picture. No plans just of the top of the brain as I go with this project.

The Australian palms are my favorite aesthetic wise. My wife does not like the blue in the bismarkia. It certainly looks interesting and there’s a cheap one at Home Depot. I live too far from the coast otherwise id get a few kentias and call it a day. In your experience, Alexanders do better in full sun?

It’s definitely 10-11 uv index all summer. Its usually low to high 90s with the occasional heat wave where we see 100-103 multiple days.

I’m actually completely with you and have had the same discussions at work and with members of my family. The main thing being lost is practicing how to get information ourselves. It’s through the act of research that knowledge sticks in your brain. AI promotes us to quickly get information and then just as quickly forget it. I was initially resistant to using Apple/Google Maps for the same reason; I learnt my way around by using the old book style maps (Melways for us Melbournians). Admittedly I’ve now caved mainly due to no alternative being available, but I’d say my sense of direction and knowledge of our streets is a bit better than your average 20 year old who has grown up using digital maps and just following where they’ve been told to go. All that being said, I use AI both at work and for personal use, even palm related stuff. The key is just realising its strengths and weaknesses and not just taking the output as gospel. Photo of Hedyscepe at the Melb Botanic Gardens in our 7.8 rated climate to keep us on track 🤣

It’s sulking from the planting out. A lot of newly planted palms sulk after being planted in the ground. It’s a wonderful life in a container all the water nutrients a nice cosy pot to grow in most likely in a nice microclimate as well, we come along and wack it in the ground and then the palm goes what’s going here I liked my nice comfy container. It will soon realise the freedom ahead and a better life in the ground. Dont replace that is for sure. Just look after as if was any other palm and in a year or so you won’t even notice the situation it was in after planting out. Time is a palms friend!

Hi everyone, I have one young Dypsis decipiens left, grown from seeds collected at a private park in Antsirabe near Mount Ibity. Unfortunately, I don't have enough space to overwinter it here in Germany, and I don't have a garden to test its hardiness myself. Here is my private offer: https://www.ebay.de/itm/117311347921?var=&mkevt=1&mkcid=16&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=7ISWiHqNR5S&ssspo=7ISWiHqNR5S&stype=1&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE Best wishes Chris

I have seen two from the same seed before,kerriodoxa elegans, but nothing like that at either end of the seed. Keep that on marked as special!

This is AI at its finest, to list a palm for sale now they make you use ai on this website. $7.09 cents for a itaya amoricorum. Artificial intelligence at its finest, who is feeding this machine this crap. It cost me that and more for just one seed. Go to living blazes ai.

Maybe it's a generational thing Tim, but I like to do things the hard way 😅 As for Hedyscepe...they do like Tasmania!

About 4 to 5 months with bottom heating!

I do believe they are somewhat rare and should live in your climate. EBay strikes again!

Cant see why not, let them have there fun!

Plant a Bismarckia there, if you insist on archontophoenix, a nice triple planting of Alexander’s would look good! A nice baroni black petiole would seal the deal for me. And give the street a wow factor.