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I once had a Howea seed germinate with a variegated frond ( light colored streaks running long ways to the leaf vs across ) . I was very excited until the next little frond turned out dark green🫤. Harry

Fantastic! (Except for the rats) . I just can’t throw away seeds , unless they are too prolific . I will scatter them about the yard instead. Lately I have been getting into a bit of sowing in containers or baggie method . I now have a few containers around the house with tags but no plants . ( thank you @happypalms 😄) . My neighbor saw me on the ladder plucking seeds from a tall C. Radicalis and asked if they were edible. I told him that I was harvesting them to grow more palms. I don’t know about the edible part. Before seeing your posts about seeds and all the palms you have grown from seeds , I really didn’t pay much attention , or put a lot of time into sowing seeds. Now I am getting into it. Most of my yard is the hill so I can’t install or build a greenhouse . I am looking at different “lean to” options that might work . My work bench that is home to a small bench vise and a drill press is getting cluttered with containers of germinating seeds. For home projects I have to move the containers to get any work done. 🤔Harry

Some are, some have died. It was a very odd freeze. Here are updates; PALMS Acoelorrhaphe wrightii (4’)- no damage Aiphanes horrida x minima (6’) -100% burn, already had about 25% burn from earlier cold, it always showed damage below about 35F every year but always quickly recovered, DEAD Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (20’) -major burn, new leaf opening, it is opening 4th new leaf, all are floppy, this palm was still recovering from hurricane damage and a boron deficiency Archontophoenix purpurea (7’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging, DEAD Areca triandra (3’) -100% burn, regrowing Arenga engleri (7’)- light burn on a few leaves Arenga hookeriana (5’)- all tall stems 100% burned/dead, shorter suckers green Beccariophoenix alfredii (15’, 10’)- both have severe burn but green in center Borassodendron machodonis (3’)- COVERED, no damage Brassiophoenix drymophoeoides (5’)- 100% burn, DEAD Carpentaria acuminata x Adonidia merrillii (25’)- 100% burn DEAD Caryota mitis ‘Variegata’ (3’)- severe burn, amin stem died, suckers emerging Chamaedorea elegans (2’)-100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea ernestii-augustii (3’)- 100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea metallica (2’)- 100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea microspadix (6’)- no damage initially, very delayed damage, very light burn probably from the winds Chambeyronia macrocarpa (3’)- all leaves burned except newest, regrowing Chelyocarpus chuco (4’)- COVERED no damage Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos (3’)- 100% burn, DEAD Chrysalidocarpus lutescens ‘Nana’ (3’)- COVERED but partially blew off, 50% burn, several stems died back Chrysalidocarpus madagascariensis (Mahajanga form) (6’)- 100% burn, main stem dead suckers emerging Chrysalidocarous onilahensis (3’)- light burn Chrysalidocarpus pembanus (15’)- 100% burn on the 2 tall trunks, suckers have some green leaves, 2 tall trunks dead Chrysalidocarpus psammophilus (3’)- 100% burn, DEAD Chuniophoenix hainanensis (3’)- no damage Clinostigma savoryanum (4’)- 2 newest leaves have no damage, others burned Coccothrinax barbadensis (3’)- light burn Coccothrinax crinita (3’) – severe burn, regrowing Coccothrinax spissa (3’)- severe burn, trunk cut, regrowing Cocos nucifera ‘Green Malayan’ (10’, 3’ trunk)- almost 100% burn but a few green leaflets and petioles still green, already pushing new growth, it already had about 20% burn from frost a couple weeks prior, regrowing, it has pushed out 4 new leaves, all damaged or distorted but new spear is looking better Copernicia alba (6’)- no damage Cryosophila stauracantha (4’)- 100% burn DEAD Cyrtostachys elegans x renda (3’)- COVERED no damage Dictyosperma album (furfuraceum) (3’)- 100% burn, regrowing Euterpe edulis (10’, 5’)- both have 100% burn, both dead Gaussia attenuata (7’)- 100% burn, new spear opening, DEAD Gaussia maya (5’)- 100% burn, regrowing Heterospathe negrosensis (4’)- light burn Howea belmoreana (3’)- severe burn DEAD Howea forsteriana (7’)- severe burn DEAD Hyophorbe verschaffeltii (6’)- 100% burn, new leaf opening Lanonia dasyantha (2’, 3’)- no damage on either Leucothrinax morrissii (5’)- no damage initially, new growth emerged damaged but regrowing Licuala kunstleri (2’)- light damage Licuala peltata (3’)- light burn Licuala ramsayi (6’)- slight damage on 1 leaf, very delayed reaction, first new leaf opened and collapsed but others fine Livistona decora (10’)- no damage, very light and delayed burn Livistona muelleri (4’)- moderate burn Livistona saribus (15’)- no damage Normanbya normanbyi (8’)- 100% burn DEAD Phoenix acaulis (3’)- no damage Phoenix loureiroi (Kashmir) (8’)- no damage Pinanga coronata (4’)- 100% burn 2 main stems died, suckers regrowing Pinanga gracilis (3’)- 2 stems, 1 no damage, other 100% burn Pritchardia hillebrandii (3’)- moderate burn, still lots of green, center spear pulled, cut and treated, new growth pushing out Pseudophoenix sargentii (4’)- severe burn, regrowing Ptychococcus lepidotus (5’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychococcus paradoxus (6’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychosperma elegans (10’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychosperma propinquum (macarthurii) (12’)- main stem 100% burn, suckers mostly brown but some green, main stems dead suckers emerging Ravenea glauca (3’)- light burn Ravenea hildebrandtii (5’)- 100% burn DEAD Ravenea rivularis (6’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging Reinhardtia latisecta (2’)- no damage Rhapis excelsa ‘Zuiko Nishiki’ (5’)- no damage, delayed damage, slight spotting on some leaves Rhapis humilis (8’)- no damage Sabal etonia x palmetto (2’)- no damage Sabal mauritiiformis (5’)- very minor burn Sabal miamiensis x maritima (6’)- no damage Sabal palmetto (10’)- no damage Sabal palmetto (Miami Rockridge form) (2’)- no damage Sabinaria magnifica (3’)- COVERED, cover partially blew off, light burn on a couple leaves, very delayed light damage Schippia concolor (3’)- moderate burn Serenoa repens, silver (3’)- no damage Syagrus romanzoffiana (20’)- light burn Syagrus sancona (7’)- severe burn, trunk cut new leaf opening Syagrus weddelliana (6’)- severe burn DEAD Veitchia arecina (3’)- moderate burn DEAD Wodhyethia bifurcata (4’)- 100% burn DEAD CYCADS Bowenia spectabilis- no damage Ceratozamia hildae- no damage Cycas debaoenis- no damage Cycas thouarsii- 100% burn Encephalartos ferox- no damage Stangeria eriopus- light burn Zamia furfuracea – no damage, in pot and taken in Zamia integrifolia (narrow leaflet form)- no damage Zamia integrifolia (Palatka Giant)- no damage Zamia integrifolia (wide leaflet form)- no damage Zamia nesmophila- moderate burn Zamia sp. “Spots”- severe burn PANDANS Freycinetia cumingiana (4’)- main stems dead, some green shorter stems/leaves Pandanus furcatus (15’)- 100% burn but green already pushing out removed all dead leaves, new growth pushing out, stem is now collapsing Pandanus letocartiorum (decumbens) (2’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus penangensis (monotheca) (5’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging in June Pandanus polycephalus (3’)- severe burn DEAD Pandanus pygmaeus ‘Variegatus’ (2’)- moderate burn Pandanus tectorius (spineless form) (3’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus tectorius, dwarf spineless variegated form)- 100% burn dead PALM-LIKE PLANTS Cyclanthus bipartitus (4’)- 100% burn, this is root hardy, foliage dies every year as it declines around 35F but rapidly regrows in spring, regrowing, vigorous new growth Dracaena arborea (4’)- killed to roots Ravenala madagascariensis (15’)- 100% burn, regrowing Ravenala menahirana (Honkondambo) (3’)- 100% burn, new leaf emerging, regrowing Sphaeropteris cooperi (Cyathea) (10’)- 100% burn, regrowing Strelitzia nicolai (10’)- 100% burn, main stem died back

I have more pembanas, they are not too much work. I dont like losing palms but its a part of growing them the last 25 years, so are edits. THe hurricane damaged so many palms(30?) it was very discouraging. Most of the biggest ones were stripped of almost all their leaves, the pembana was one of them. I have 4 potted 5-7 gallon pembanas that came from the fruit of the solitary one just falling into pots with soil. I've already planted 2 out this past month. My recomendation, never plan to have just one or two palms, get a dozen or more so there is encouragement after setbacks.

Great post! I planted a Bizzy on my hill , it only took a little over a year for the gophers to find it and eat the roots right up to the trunk! The Sabal is still there. What is said about speed of growth after trunking is my observation as well . Most of mine , with the exception of the Bizmarkia , were very small palms . Once they started trunking , it seems like the growth rate sped up. Harry

If it doesn't kill em it'll make em stronger! This one we know, Wallisia cyanea, but man, you've set me some ID challenges with the others Richard...and thanks again.

There were some folded leaflets close to the tips(<3"), but I was told the hooks were more definitive of jubaea blood. The hooks are temporary, a stage, so if you don't have them it may just be it has grown past that stage. Stiff petioles are another jubaea trait. I bought mine as a 15 gallon and it was recurved but the petioles were not easy to bend as a butia. I also have a (BxJ)x J which has the more symmetrical leaflet arrangements and less recurved petioles than my BxJ. I was tol that in northern california there are areas where jubaeas and butias grow in fields and they naturally hybridize. This is where my B x J came from.

one of my first fig hybrid seedlings (oppcar) produced its first figs at less than 2 years old… it probably helped that i had grafted it onto a ficus carica in a 45 gallon pot. so far it seems like they are very graft compatible. the problem was that the figs started falling off prematurely. when i cut them open i discovered the culprit…worms of black fig fly (bff). its pretty rampant here in southern california. ficus carica cultivars aren’t equally susceptible to bff, so i’m sure the same will be even more true of my fig hybrids. here’s my full post on the topic… fig hybrids and bff. on a global scale, root knot nematodes (rkn) are a much bigger fig problem than bff. i recently started a couple experiments attempting to inoculate some of my hybrids with rkn… left: ficus ulmifolia x carica top: ficus opposita x carica right: ficus fraseri x carica, and ficus ulmifolia bottom: ficus racemosa x carica center: ficus carica with rkn according to google search ai, it should take around 8 to 12 weeks for rkn to fully colonize the pot. lots of suspense in the meantime. my full post on the topic… fig hybrids and rkn. if anyone is interested in growing my fig hybrids, i’m auctioning some for the first time ever. here are the exact seedlings… from left to right… ficus fraseri x carica ficus racemosa x carica ficus opposita x carica ficus ulmifolia x carica ficus fraseri x carica ficus racemosa x carica ficus opposita x carica ficus ulmifolia x carica included in the auction is a cutting of a variegated male carica that i discovered on the side of the 10 freeway just outside downtown los angeles… here’s my blog entry with all the descriptions and pics of all the figs included in the auction. looking forward to seeing many “edimental” (edible and ornamental) figs in the future. i might be a bit biased, but i’m pretty sure that, out of all the fruits, figs have the most potential.

I get that feeling of the game shifting under your feet, so sometimes I take a breather and follow something totally separate just to reset. Keeping up with England Premier League results has weirdly helped me enjoy college ball again, since it gives me the pure stats-and-play focus without the portal drama. It kind of takes the edge off so the Saturdays don’t feel so heavy.

Richard, overhere the competition between plants for getting enough sunlight is heavy! Palms like Chamaerops humilis and Cycads like the blue Encephalartos, Dioon and Cycas serpentina are fighting for the scarce space!

Wowo interesting

I have found this little book is quite useful!

Yeh, most broms I've tried seem to do well for me and I'm sure they would for you too Jonathan. For the most part all I've had is minor frost burn in winter from ones in more exposed positions, but they've always grown out of it. I've read somewhere that pups from a plant tend to do better than the parent, especially if it's coming from a warmer climate/greenhouse, and I think there's something to that. I believe it is an A recurvata cultivar, but I've no idea what it's called. I got it from a friend recently who gets much harder frosts than me and it does well there. The leaves were very bright red when I got it, then they turned green and the red flower came out, it was quite a transition!

Why not a palm seed thread, we all love our palm seeds, and with so many of us harvesting our seeds from our gardens, or purchasing them. It’s a great way to get seed identification for those who may have there doubts about did I get the real deal. Chamaedorea tenella Mother plant And the rats had been stealing them so harvest time!

No these are gone already

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If it is coning then your olfactory senses may pick up the scent you’re describing. Everyone has a different sense of smell, perhaps you need to get a job as a smellier! I love the smell of dynamic lifter a chicken poo based fertiliser to me it smells like chocolate which it it is most definitely not chocolate 🍫

A couple more pembana floating around the garden!

A nice Chambeyronia and the Geonoma atrovirens seems to ok in cold wet conditions (for now) still not freezing conditions to kill palms yet, but they will come sooner than later those 2 degrees celcius mornings.

I’m so sorry to hear about your single-stemmed Pemba palm blowing over! That must’ve been a horrible feeling after investing so much time. Also, thank you for all the information! I’ve never grown this palm before. I do know my friend’s C. pembanus (Dypsis pembana) grew to about 20 ft in 7 to 9 years. He said it was well-watered, but didn’t get much fertilizer. I know, Bismarckia and Archontophoenix species can grow extremely fast here, especially when given lots of water and fertilizer.

If it was me I would move back to Hawaii and live in palm paradise! Iam impressed @tim_brissy_13 And that propagation medium looks familiar 👍you got some bargaining material there @happypalms 🤣

A couple more floating around the garden. The first picture you now have @Jonathan so we will see if that refrigerator you live in can grow this beauty of a brom!

The iguanura genus, I was quite surprised when I discovered they would take a little cool weather. A zone push winner that I lucked up with. The only thing that they really require is water and lots of it in the ground, I sit them in shallow trays of water they are one palm that doesn’t tolerate dry feet. It took me a little time to work them out but I got there! iguanura sanderianum Iguanura wallachiana Iguanura paddle leaf