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Not cheap cutting down trees , hindsight is a wonderful thing. I have a white cedar tree that’s next to go when the funds are available. The pines get so tall as well, so a lot of distance is covered in one falling. And there nothing better than a trip to Europe, I was fortunate enough to stay with a family in Budapest for 6 weeks. There’s always next year for a Europe trip, for me now give me the South Pacific islands, at least they have tropical palms.

One more tree down is one less to bother me in future. We did get a tree lopper in to take out 2 live trees near the shadehouse back in 2024 and one near the house. The trees nearer the house are half the size. None are an issue near the house. But those 3 trees to cut down cost me a trip to Europe. This tree that came down was healthy and a long way from the shadehouse. But even though it was healthy, it had grown up in a forest not on its own. So now it’s gone there are no more trees in that area. They’re all gone. It’s still not over yet. There are still more trees dying after the floods of 2021. Those pine trees have all grafted their roots together. I know that from digging new plants in. So if one trees gets a fungus or bacteria they pass it to the next. However it has slowed way down now.

i agree with aztropic. the roots look like they rotted in transit. you can try to salvage them whatever way you can though. i'd try soaking them in peroxide after cutting the rotten ends off. but even the top one looks pretty bad and it has spots of possible rot even near where it started sprouting. chances are the rot already spread all the way down.

@aztropic Thanks. I think I'll try only the top one. The 2nd one seems unlikely. Bummer. Then again, I only have space for one. The ones in pot would be just backups in case the one in ground does not sprout. I didn't realize how big Borassus seeds are. I knew the fruit was huge but the seeds are no joke.

How many you after, I’ll have some in 6-8 weeks or so. I usually have a few thousand.

I don't think either of the sprouted ones will make it. Pot them up, sure, but don't expect anything to happen. If you don't see any sign of a leaf after a month, root has probably rotted.🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Hi. I had recently ordered some Borassus aethiopum seeds (from a vendor I had purchased seeds of other palms before and I found very reliable). Problem is, 2 out of 3 came in already sprouted. The largest seed, which is the one I have planted (directly in the ground), had NOT sprouted and I am hoping it is viable and it just was a bit slower. These two, though, I am not sure what to do and if they are salvageable or not. One seems to have a root damaged and soft/mushy halfway through (the one on the bottom), the other one has a stronger root and it clearly less damaged, but the tip is indeed somewhat damaged and it seems it is shaped like a "hook". Does it look like I should attempt to salvage these? I have pots deep enough for these to grow (they are 4 feet deep). I could absolutely use a backup if one in the ground does not sprout, but I don't want to attempt to grow a plant that will get stunted and die (especially in the case of the one with the healthier root, which is healthier but not going straight). Any advice?

Thanks. Any photo of your beauty?

yeah i've seen alot of variegated plants before and it looks like variegation to me. reason why it would randomly pop up is because of random genetic mutation. some indivitual plants have genes that make them more suspectable to forming variegation. so once in a while any part of them say a leaf can mutate during cell division, and a variegation will be created. often times these will revert after a while so you get normal growth, variegated, and then normal growth on top. though not always it depends how stable the mutation is, sometimes they are more permanent. variegations can never be passed down through. only the susceptibility to them.

Well if that’s the case, your post @Harry’s Palms has been inspirational to post a nice picture of a couple of chamaedoreas! Cham sartori Cham elatior

Looking at this thread again inspired me to venture out for a few photos. Hopefully in a few more years it will look as good as the one that Daryl posted earlier. Tim

Luckily they do well here in East Hawaii, glad I was able to plant a few in the garden. Tim

Nice photos, and I’ll ‘second’ the beautiful palm comment. Tim

The sulfur smell sure tells the tale, root rot. Good luck with the fungicide, construction dirt and masonry will limit drainage and you should amend the site so its drains if you plan to plant a tree there. Every hole you dig should be filled and watched for drain time to determine if you have a "clay pot" in the ground before planting. I had to dig through my top 3 1/2 feet of soil in arizona to get to dirt that would drain well. When I did the drainage test it dropped only half way in 24 hrs and was still mucky bottom at 72 hours. That spot may be an issue for any deep rooted tree unless you can get down to drainable dirt.

I didnt think they could look so good indoors, nice job! They do grow faster in the ground or even in a bigger pot. Mine went into the ground in 2011 about the same size as yours, its 20+ foot overall now.

lol you know I'd take this in a heartbeat if I wasn't so far. I lost my 6 foot, 4 headed speciosa to a sudden and severe mite infestation last summer. I replaced with a small one, so it'll be several years before I see blooms again.

Looks happy!👍 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Hey Mo, I know we already discussed this but just posting here to continue the thread - No issues with cold or sun in Fresno on either the panzhihuaensis or revoluta hybrid.

I've been growing this Adonidia that i germinated 3 years ago here in Mallorca (Spain). I have it indoors on a pot and in winter I put a heat mat below the pot to keep the soil warm and always over 21ºc (70ºf). I'ts doing pretty well, and I'm wondering if anyone else is growing a christmas palm indoors just like me, if anyone does, share a photo of yours! Any tips to make mine grow faster? because I'm not really sure if its too small to be a 3 year old palm.

Yes, I hybridized radicalis x microspadix, producing about 10 seeds, all of which sprouted. The seeds were small. I hybridized microspadix x radicalis, producing only 3 seeds, but all 3 sprouted. It's a shame I lost almost everything while I was in the hospital.

Looks great if the blooms are gone you can't pollinate the resulting unfertilized seeds

Not under my brown thumb, Jim... I managed to kill my 1 and only volunteer in transplanting... Butch

I am not asking for a snake convention here, so yes I do mind them coming after other little critters in my yard. If I keep the ground relatively clear the Owls and hawks will keep the snakes and their prey out of my yard. I am a big fan of the raptors, do what I can to make it their kind of yard with making roosting spots. I get rabbits, no problem, they don't hide in piles of dead matter, but I don't want the snakes, some of which are venomous. My lab attacks snakes in his yard he is territorial. I don't want him getting bit by a water moccasin or bringing to me any dead critters.

I used to be able to get them here in florida but the smaller specialty nurseries that still exist dont carry them and they will probably never be offered in big box stores. I had 2 small ones killed quickly in 2010 @ 28F. I also had a small wodyetia same size that looked like it was going to make it, but it declined after a month and kicked it. The foxy ladies really crumpled up after one night, total brown. Being an F1 cross means that all siblings will not be the same in cold tolerance. Some will lean veitchia some will lean wodyetia. I have my doubts that you can expect better hardiness than a wodyetia, its a roll of the dice. There is a nice tall one in tampa at the zoo, dark green and probably 40 foot or more. F1 hybrids generally do not have consistency in expressed genetics. An S2 would be needed to get consistently expressed genetics and that would mean the F1 would have to be fertile.

Yes me too!! I would need to dig again those pictures from my old hard drive! Here are some of them: Such a wonderful and colorful palmtree 🌴😀 JB