COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Comprehensive Hardiness List 1 2
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 1 follower
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This new forum split is confusing, but since this is about hardiness, i will post it here even though this doesn't qualify as "hardy" by the measure that palms grow natively here. Has anyone seen this list of hardiness results? It has quite a number of surprises, some rather tropical palms turn out to be pretty hardy. Now hardy for me means it can take some dips into the upper 20's, i.e. -2C at most in the open before I see any damage. This list was compiled by a nursery in Cornwall, UK, and while it's mild down there, i expect most of those specimens were small. http://www.trebrown.com/documents/climate/palmhardinesstrials.php Some of this information is hig…
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Starting a Washingtonia from seed 1 2
by MSX- 71 replies
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Hello palmtalkers! I've already had some experience of germinating Butia and now I'm starting my second palm from scratch - Washingtonia, possibly a pure filifera. This is a motherpalm, located in Termez, Uzbekistan. This Washy is 13 years old and it's fruiting for the first time this year. At age of 6-7 it managed to survive an extreme cold snap in february 2014, with a low temperature of -22C (-7.6F), the lowest recorded temperatures in the whole region, and continuous 168 hours of subfreezing temperatures, this is what makes this specimen interesting. These seeds arrived to me Cleaned and soaking in the water
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Top 5 fastest growers 1 2
by Jubaea_James760- 1 follower
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What is your top 5 fastest growers thus far? I count the new leaves as well as overall growth. Chamaerops Humilis (single plant) puts out a ton of leaves every year but not much overall growth so I didn't include that one. Some palms put out 2-3 leaves & you can see sufficient growth, so whatever growth is to you Here's my top 5: #1 Brahea Edulis (7-8 leaves) kinda lost count on this one. Extremely fast for me. #2 Livistona Nitida (6-7 leaves) same, lost count. #3 Trithrinax Campestris ( unknown amount of leaves) this one put on some good vertical height & girth. Its a double & recently noticed a third pup/sucker? Coming up that I may cut off.…
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What other palms can grow in the Puget sound.area 1 2
by Love them palms- 71 replies
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Doing research and taking advice from other growers, the only palms that come up is trachycarpus,butia and their hybrids, jubaea and their hybrids ,sabals,Mediterranean fan palms,mule palms, washingtonia filibusta ( maybe).but what I am looking for is a phoenix style looking tree that has a fighting chance in our 8B climate. We get the wet winters and it dont get too cold 15 is usually normal for the coldest min but doesn't do that much (except this year,alot of cold and snow) we get pretty warm summers lately. I'm not into trachycarpus cause everybody and their dog have them here.I have a sabal riverside, butia x jubaea already and getting a couple of filibusta soon, any…
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A few Winter Garden Pics 1 2
by Palm crazy- 70 replies
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I think this might be the first time I have show the garden this time of year. Lots going on and just a sample. Enjoy! Different hardy Schefflera's.
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Cold hardy palms and cycads for SC Oklahoma 7b 1 2
by Jerrrod- 2 followers
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and need help. I just moved here from southern California and really do miss my palms.😀 I'm about 75 miles north of Dallas (7b), have clay soil and keep getting conflicting information about palms, like cold hardiness, growth rate & max size. I did try Bismarckia and date palms (Canary and regular), last year. I had the seeds growing good in a baggie floating in my aquarium. By the time winter set in they ~2' and had about 3 leaves. I heard that they were cold hardy and planted all of them (10). Never heard of a polar vortex, but you know what happened. I want to try again but don't want to lose them again. I don't mind protecting them, as …
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Sabal minor At Their Range Limits? 1 2
by PalmTreeDude- 3 followers
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Anyone have any pictures of native Sabal minor at just about their fattest northern ranges? I want to see more Sabal minors at their limits, inspired by this awesome thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/52756-sabal-minor-in-habitat-mccurtain-county-ok/
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Schafer Butia hybrids 1 2
by 8B palms- 3 followers
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So just ordered 2 of Patric's Butia x Monty (S.schizophylla x S.romanzoffiana). I know these are relatively a new cross of 2-3 years. Anyone growing these, and have any info on hardiness or pictures/experiences so far. Thanks Craig
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Salem Oregon Washy update 1 2
by Fallen Munk- 69 replies
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My neighbor's Washingtonia. Even with the number of cold wet days and lots of frost this year, these guys just keep pumping. I keep germinating as much seed as I can hoping to get lucky with this species, but so far not having any. Maybe when these get big enough to produce seed I'll talk to the owners and see if they can help me out. Anybody know at what size they will produce viable seed?
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serenoa repens 1 2
by palm tree man- 1 follower
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I am starting this forum for those that love our native success story the saw palmetto. There is no palm that is more wide spread and that can survive more diverse conditions in the Southeastern United States. In its own wright it is a cool palm and really deserves more attention despite its slow growing and mostly sub subterranean nature. There are many examples of this palm that craw great distances upon the ground or that grow underground to another location. It is only when the soil is removed "often sandy" that we realize how large and branching some of these clumps truly are. There are also several distinct varieties which show different leaf traits…
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Palms of Brookings Oregon 1 2
by Hutch- 1 follower
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Here are some palms I found near where I'm staying...i will take a bunch more photos tomarrow headed to the beach..
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Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 2 followers
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I'm calling out Tom GA to provide more photographic evidence of this palms existence. Much like the BigFoot of the Northwest, or the Loch Ness Monster; Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' seems like it might be a hoax to lure tourists to the Bamboo Farm in Georgia. Just like those 'monsters', all we have is one grainy photo as "proof" of this Monster Palm's existence. Here it is......... So is it real....or an elaborate prank?
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Show the Biggest Chamaedorea radicalis (Trunking Form) You Have 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 68 replies
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Really gaining a great respect for these palms. No, you can't hang a hammock from them and they are not fast growing or have the star power of your favorite dypsis species; but they are very cold hardy and tough. How big do they get? Show us your largest one.
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Jubaea hybrids growth 1 2
by yabazid- 2 followers
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Today I put in the ground my potted hybrids. I hope this thread will help me track their growth. I think there's a few of us in the southeast upstate SC growing these hybrids. Here they are today 3/25/2016 first picture from left to right: BxJ then BJxJ then BJxB(flat leaf) second picture left to right: JXB then a BJxB(V-leafs)
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Jubaea X Butia F3 growth in SE NC 1 2
by Joe NC- 2 followers
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I purchased this Jubaea x Buita from Garry's Nursery in New Bern NC, in May of 2015. I mostly bare rooted it before planting, due to the extreme difference in soil texture in the nice porous potting media and my heavy clay. I've had to learn the hard way about amending clay soil, or creating mini-bogs out of large root balls and potting media. From what I can gather this is at least an F3 from seeds from the late Dr. Wilcox's palm. Since my family and friends think I'm crazy if I excitedly talk about my F3 hybrid Jubutia finally pushing a new spear, I'll stick to posting photo updates to it's progress here where there might be more interest. This plant barel…
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Cold hardiness an acquired ability? 1 2
by teddytn- 1 follower
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I’ve been thinking about cold hardiness for a long time. There’s the idea that every palm has a genetic ability to handle a certain amount of heat and cold, but also if you can get a palm to survive to maturity and produce viable seed out of its natural range, with worse winter weather, the offspring should carry a better tolerance to cold than a palm in its natural range. Can this be a learned ability by palms over generations?
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Complete list of “Bullet Proof” Palms? 1 2
by Dwarf Fan- 2 followers
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This list was made by Papay, it definitely seems like one of the more comprehensive lists I have found so far to date, does anyone have a better list? Also, if anything is missing please feel free to add more Palms no matter how obscure.
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Additional cold hardy palm species to discuss? 1 2
by MarkbVet- 1 follower
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Just noticed that Fairview has a number of palms rated zone 8b or colder that I had not contemplated until now: Trithrinax brasiliensis var. brasiliensis , Wodyetia bifurcata, Thrinax radiata, Sabal miamiensis, Livistona benthamii ‘Golden Form” , Sabal mauritiiformis , Brahea moorei, Dypsis decaryi, Dypsis carlsmithii, Chamaedorea costaricana, Ceroxylon ventricosum, Ceroxylon quindiuense, Brahea sarukhanii , Brahea dulcis (including a blue form). Any thoughts on any of these? I suspect that many are not as hardy as this nursery asserts, but some likely are. Haven't seen much discussion of most of these though-- so here's the chance to get talking!!
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Sabal Louisiana Growth 1 2
by Allen- 4 followers
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Here is the progression of my Sabal minor "Louisiana". That is the best ID we can come up with for this palm 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022
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About to get pimp-slapped. 1 2
by buffy- 1 follower
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Looks like 14F for Monday night. Good bye marginal friends. Let's see what will surprise.
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yatay x jubaea F1 1 2
by sonoranfans- 2 followers
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I have this little yatay x jubaea F1 from patric shafer, probably from Dick Douglas Garden. It is showing signs of a yatay blueish tinge. This might be an advantage of this cross, but I have two and only one shows the blue at this time.... I don't need a palm this cold hardy, but I want it anyway, LOL! I will find a spot for it if I have to clear with a chainsaw, LOL! these are not so easy to find, I don't know anyone other than patric who offers this hybrid.
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Help selecting palms in 9A FL 1 2
by LI_Pets- 65 replies
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Hi, glad I found this site. I just moved into central Fl a new one story home with nothing more than builder stuff. I have 3 areas that I want to plants grouping of palms. 1 rear of home full sun group of 5 they will be near a screened pool and have solar panels so need to keep the hgt in this grouping at 20-25' max. we were thinking a 2-3' CT Sylvester as one of this group. 2 rear of home full sun group of 3 can be taller. maybe a Washingtonia as one 3 in front of the house on north side partial shade a group of 3. least important area we spend 90% of our time in back areas 1 & 2 Just not sure which species will look good together, we …
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Trachycarpus 'Manipur' 1 2
by sashaeffer- 2 followers
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Getting this beauty next week(one on left) and was wondering if anyone here had any growing experience with this palm long term. While I have 7 T. Fortunei in the ground here in my climate this one will remain potted(into larger one than shown) when I get it. It has experienced down to 14f in cold frame so far Anyone have one of these long term? Scott/Omaha USA
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Summer watering! 1 2
by teddytn- 1 follower
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May be a good topic to touch on, at least in the U.S. temps are on the rise! New to planting palms or an old head that maybe just planted a palm for the first time in a few years, good to touch on the basics. Any palm Sabal family, windmill family, butia, Jubaea etc etc. summer is when we can make up for some winter damage, setback, or at least slow down. What’s everyone’s watering schedule look like?
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Zone 5 and 6 palm growers 1 2
by Coldpalms- 2 followers
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Anyone out there growing palms outside in zone 5 or 6?
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