buffy Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like 14F for Monday night. Good bye marginal friends. Let's see what will surprise. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 ...pimp slapped with a 2x4. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Sorry to hear it. This weather must be dipping out of Canada for you guys...it certainly hasn't come from the west. I am wondering if we are now in Socal given we haven't seen less than 65 degrees as a high for a month now. (Sorry, I just slapped myself for writing that!) Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 You think that's bad? Hopefully the image works. If not... Monday 27/8F 50% chance Snow...ouch!!! Big time. I'm doing my best to wrap them up and save them. Hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 2010/11 cleared out all of my marginal stuff. A few things have slipped back in, mostly through gifts, but I learned my lesson back then. At this point, like you said above, let's see what surprises me. Good luck, Buffy. In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Highjack alert!!! Keith what are you growing these days? I'm sure you've posted a thread on the topic before. But I'll be darned if I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 How dare you hi-jack my thread! The horror. I'm humiliated. I suspect his list is similar to mine; though, he probably has better luck(climate). Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 LoL. Wasn't trying to steal the thunder of the thread. Just relating to the post. I also planted marginal palms this past spring and this year of all years has to be one of the coldest since i have been growing palms. So glad I didn't plant that mule palm yet. Hope you are able to spare some of your palms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 You think that's bad? Hopefully the image works. If not... Monday 27/8F 50% chance Snow...ouch!!! Big time. I'm doing my best to wrap them up and save them. Hope it works. 8F in GA? Huge ouch! I'm hoping for the best for all of you. Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Adjusted down to 13F tomorrow night. Tonight we just get 15F with wind gusts to 30 mph. Joy. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 LoL. Wasn't trying to steal the thunder of the thread. Just relating to the post. I also planted marginal palms this past spring and this year of all years has to be one of the coldest since i have been growing palms. So glad I didn't plant that mule palm yet. Hope you are able to spare some of your palms. 8F makes me want to cry inside. Sorry bro. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 LoL. Wasn't trying to steal the thunder of the thread. Just relating to the post. I also planted marginal palms this past spring and this year of all years has to be one of the coldest since i have been growing palms. So glad I didn't plant that mule palm yet. Hope you are able to spare some of your palms. 8F makes me want to cry inside. Sorry bro. Me, too. In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 It's all good. All my palms are small enough to wrap up with sheets and frost cloth. Just finished wrapping the last one about 10 minuets ago. I will let you know how everything does after this passes. My Washingtonia already has some frost damage from nights down to 24. There was one night that went down to 20 with a wind chill at 14. Wasn't able to wrap it good that time but was got it enough to keep it from getting any worse especially on short notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yes, good luck....sounds like you have prepared well. Keith, you had rain.....and freezing temps tonight? David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yes, good luck....sounds like you have prepared well. Keith, you had rain.....and freezing temps tonight? Yes, rains came, but luckily not too much. Dry air should quickly evaporate most of it. Hmmm, let's see what the temp is. 11pm and 37 degrees. Still calling for a low of 26 tonight. Northerlies are howling out there. Prediction is 10 hours below freezing and not rising above 32 until 11am. In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithgn Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Ouch, 8 F?! Covington, GA to where I'm at isn't terribly far. Why such drastic temperature differences? To the OP, we're about in the same boat, 8A here and the lows for Monday have fluctuated from 14-16 degree lows. I'd love to go ahead and put my protection on one of my Phoenix's, but there is a steady stream of rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Ouch, 8 F?! Covington, GA to where I'm at isn't terribly far. Why such drastic temperature differences? To the OP, we're about in the same boat, 8A here and the lows for Monday have fluctuated from 14-16 degree lows. I'd love to go ahead and put my protection on one of my Phoenix's, but there is a steady stream of rain I have a Phoenix hybrid (canariensis x dactylifera) that's gonna see how tough he is tonight. New revised low is 12F. I'm pulling for the young fella. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The temperature is 31*F this morning and predicted to get to 22*F tonight. I'm not protecting anything except for a few potted palms on my patio. Click Here to Join the IPS Today! Click Here to Renew Your IPS Membership! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Current temp here is 31 with wind chill at 18. Low tonight is 9 with wind chill to be around -10. Wrapped palms seem to be holding up well. Keep your fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Prediction of 22F tonight here in Gainesville, FL. Good luck to those of you about to get walloped. Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Highs will be close to 80F by the end of the week here in N. FL. Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLeVert Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Augusta, GA was supposed to have a high this afternoon of 37F, but it made it to 41F. Low predicted to be 15F. We've been through this before, but it's been quite a few years ago. If the stupid wind would stop blowing it would help. I only wrapped one Ceratozamia because it is small. Everybody else is on their own. Joseph C. Le VertAugusta, GAUSAZone 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 New forecast is 11F for me tonight. Good luck palmy-buddies. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Polar Vortex. Google it for news Polar vortex: What is it, and when is it going away? In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks Keith for the info. The last time we got this cold here was the blizzard of 1993. I remember our power going out for four days. Brrr!! I think that was from a polar vortex issue as well. Current temp 17 with chill at 3. Now predicting a low of 10 for us. Better than 8 but still not out of the woods yet. I forgot to cover my Sago's but I'm not as worried about them since they are easily available at box stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithgn Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 buffy: Wish you luck. Hope you do lots of fertilizing in the spring and summer time... No cold protection for you? Fail on my part. Left my potted year and a half old filiferia's outside till about midnight and totally forgot... Geez. They were completely wind dried and the base was frozen cold. Poor lil buggas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Smithgn, What temp was it when you brought it in? Did you get your phoenix palm covered in time? It's 13 here right now with a chill at -3. Not much wind here so im still keeping my fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 My place appears to be a bit magical. I'm in the middle of town on a hill called Forest Hills. I'm sitting here looking at 20F while a little further out it shows 17F and then in the sticks in ranges from 16F down to 9F. Remarkable. I'm sure in the lower reaches of the yard, I'm looking at around 17F, but still remarkable. I left a lot uncovered. I mainly covered small stuff. Lots of hybrids are testing the cold. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Man, Only got down to 28F. Saw Atlanta at 7F! I hope Alex in Atlanta did not lose most of his palm collection. Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbrown_III Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I was sure how cold it got here probably above 28F --- thank providence for that as I just couldnt get any heaters going like I needed to . I am hopeing my big Jubeopsis made it thorugh with out much leaf burn. I hope everyon is keeping warm Best regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 My cold night was Sunday night @ 17.9F. We went below freezing at around 5:00pm on Sunday and I expect to be above freezing within an hour. So approximately 40 hours below freezing. Let's see the damage over the next month. Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 As I posted on the other thread got down to 20 F. last night still freezing at 22.5 F. at 10am. Well I guess I'll find out just how stupid I was to plant all those large palms. Tall washies already look necrotic deep green. Even the large S. causarium is looking kind of a weird darker green. Just hoping for survival of the big stuff at this point. David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbrown_III Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Alice I think we all were stupd and too optimistic with the big palms but I had a friend that got a Archeophoneix up to 50 feet here in Jax befor e it died so you do get some enjoyment while they prosper during the good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 As I posted on the other thread got down to 20 F. last night still freezing at 22.5 F. at 10am. Well I guess I'll find out just how stupid I was to plant all those large palms. Tall washies already look necrotic deep green. Even the large S. causarium is looking kind of a weird darker green. Just hoping for survival of the big stuff at this point. I am sure your large palms will be fine. You may have some burned leaves but with all the heat you get down there, you'll recover fast. Just think of it as temporarily deciduous palms. I will be curious about your large causiarum. That's a tough palm, I bet the leaves won't even be burned. Read this thread, it will make you feel better. See post #1 and post #34 to see how it all grew back, cold spell was longer than yours and colder, yet I think it's the same types of palms. http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/27397-empirical-data-from-the-north-texas-freeze-of-2011/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think someone should create the "Pimp-Slap Dance" and video themselves doing it in their frozen garden. In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithgn Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 GA Palm Guy- I brought them in when it was around the low 20's. It was pretty windy and it did a number on both of my filiferas. When I brought them inside they were extremely dry and a deep green. I covered my Phoenix in time. I just now took the blanket and frost cover off and my phoenix still suffered a bit. It got down to 14 degrees Monday night. I'll try to post some pictures and show the carnage, although it could have been worse. I checked your area a few times and it was always a few degrees colder than here but I never saw what the low was? How low did your temperature get? buffy- pretty amazing. You're situated in a nice little area it sounds like! I thought the effects of cold damage are pretty immediate (2-3 days or so)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerarch Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 As I posted on the other thread got down to 20 F. last night still freezing at 22.5 F. at 10am. Well I guess I'll find out just how stupid I was to plant all those large palms. Tall washies already look necrotic deep green. Even the large S. causarium is looking kind of a weird darker green. Just hoping for survival of the big stuff at this point. Out west a low of 20 is nothing for a W. robusta, they can even take heavy damage and recover in a single growing season piece of cake. I've seen them bounce back from temps way lower than that in SW Utah. My only concern is that yours are so recently transplanted and the nature of your freezes is very different than the brief radiational, dry, freezes of the west. Anyway, best if luck, I'll look forward to seeing the outcome of this. Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked back to the stone age of zone 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 It is way too early to give an accurate assessment. .....but just walking around the yard some things look damaged but maybe not dead. The big sabal is still a darker green than normal....but the color is consistent throughout. ...maybe just a temp reaction to the cold...I hope. Kens tall alba looks burnt...but I learned not to give up on albas as they come back from complete defoliation. ..strangely the smaller alba from Fishbranch shows no sign of stress. David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Mondel Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 My Washingtonia filibusta fried from 19 degrees last night. These were installed this past summer and are about 15 ft tall. I can smell their frost burn just by walking by. The Butia, Pheonix Canariensis, Livistona Chinensis, Sabal, and Syragrus have zero damage so far. We'll see what happens when it warms up this weekend. Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Palm Guy Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 All of my palms seem to have survived the blast. The most damage wasn't from the cold but from all the rain we have had. One of my Butia and a Chamaerops humilis (green form) spear pulled. Both are still green and untouched from the cold. The tallest Washingtonia already had damage from previous frosts received more damage than I would have liked but looks like it will be ok. The sheets I used didn't stay in place the first night due to the wind being so strong. The trunk was wrapped with a thick blanket just above the growth bud which held on perfectly. I replaced the sheets back over the top for the second night and it stayed put this time though it already smelled frost burnt. Not sure of exactly how low it got here but it was 11F when I woke up Tuesday morning. Will be posting some pics shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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