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Memory may fail me, but I do think that I had sent to you seeds together from several palms and perhaps I had been thus intending to include in a single postage as many different seeds as possible. So perhaps the glaucifolia seeds had not been really ripe by the time of collection. I mean skin color of the fruit is not a sufficient indication of maturity. Skin may be black but inner flesh still green and still very difficult to remove. I you can remember I have prompted you not to be hasty, based only on skin color, by the collection of the klotzschiana seeds. Better wrinkled like raisins than still immature. Imh experience Chamaedorea seeds from fruits, collected wrinkled, are the most fertile. Perhaps this was the case also with the seeds I had sent to you...

I like it when they have fronds that are at least all the way down to where they are horizontal. The river walk ones look pretty good, I haven't seen any around here with that many fronds. They look more like the ones you posted in Schertz.

My larger plants are holding their own, but my oldest plantings are a little over 2 years old, and most is 1 year or less so I have to be more on the water than I plan to in the future. Unfortunately I have no canopy to work with, so heavy mulch and dense plantings plus watering is all I can do. I buy plants just about every weekend to help plug in where I have exposed mulch. I do use a lot of the native perennials as temporary fillers as they are super cheap (<$2) to buy and generally can take the heat. I will be honest though, about half the natives I don't like or don't grow well here in Houston like they do in Central Texas. Technically they aren't actually native to our area, so this may be part of that. Many get so leggy and overgrown and just look messy, or are temperamental for some reason or another. The tropicals and subtropicals perform better than just about anything, but we get those 2 nights per year that cause so much damage. I have a Thaumatophyllum (Philodendron) that I don't water or anything, its about 6' tall and 8' wide and gets blasted by the sun and still looks great. I keep the natives because they are cheap and they help the wildlife, but a lot of them I end up removing because they look like crap. The propaganda that gets pushed on these plants is ridiculous. Just like any other plant they all have their own special needs and requirements and certainly are not a "Set and Forget" thing.

I agree that they look nicer when they aren't taking any from damage in winter...like this pair at a barracks building at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay: There are some on the Riverwalk here that look good some of the time, but I don't think I have photographed them in the last 18 months or more: The L. chinensis at the SABG takes a similar amount of damage as those on the Riverwalk. I haven't seen it in over a year though as well.

Hello all from Ireland, An update and expansion on my post linked here: They all survived the winter the Syagrus litoralis took a real beating and the Sabal bermudanas did get wind shredded BUT the Sabal bermudana left outside in a pot was by far the fastest grower. The Phoenix by the Stone Wall is growing back nicely after a tractor incident mowed it down completely last year. I put in two new mules for year round enjoyment in pots on the south facing patio, a new year-round potted Chamaerops ‘Vulcano’ and other marginal bits and bobs. All new planting are in much better draining pots/potting mixes to help with winter moisture. I don’t think the temperature was so much the issue as the cool wet (January was extremely wet), particularly for Syagrus, as even tender Geranium survived on the patio in pots through the winter. I think bermudana for speed, may be a winner here, seems very vigorous by Irish standards. New mules: Accompanied by Bouganvillea ‘Violette de Èze’, Aloe striatula, and Billbergia nutans. New Chamaerops ‘Vulcano’: Bermudana #2 being my fastest of the new palms left out all winter but a bit beat by wind: Off topic plants but cool: Mangave ‘Pineapple Express’ Existing white delosperma with added Hot Pink, Sunset Orange, Sunset Violet delosperma and with new Agave lophantha and Yucca gloriosa ‘Citris Twist’. Crinum powellii, Agapanthus ‘Twister’, Agave parrasana, geranium and begonia. Larger views: Patience will be important here with the cool conditions, despite the much warmer than normal summer.

Konstantinos I believe you, maybe it depends on the vintages?

I don't like the look of large Livistona chinensis around here, they look great when small and in the shade. They aren't the most common palm in Houston, but I do see them often. There are a few in my neighborhood, but they always take some level of frond damage. We had a low of 23F last year and there was some bronzing and when we were closer to 20F most of the fronds were heavily burnt. So they have to regrow a good portion of the fronds each year, but when you see them from more tropical areas with a substantial crown they look much better. I generally see them with multiple trunks, so I'm assuming they were the typical ones you see in the house plant section. I only know of one nursery around here that sells them and they do sell single trunk, so I bought a couple.

Strange, because they germinate naturally below mother plant in my garden! I will be back to post pictures.

Thanks for sharing the thread Tracy. I guess we might not know until it flowers. I assume they flower until they get somewhat bigger than what I have now right? I believe it was a 3 gallon pot. IMG_7468.dng IMG_7469.dng

Konstantinos last year (I don't know if you remember) you sent me the seeds, not even 1 germinated, while I had seeds from Australia from a dear friend (who wishes to remain anonymous) (not happypalms, who also sent me many seeds) they all germinated

I have both cunninghamiana and alexandrae shooting new bronze fronds but seems to only happen in winter.

I am utterly surprised. I have a female specimen growing adjacently to two male ones and it is constantly fully loaded with pollinated fruits.

Will have to look at those, I have seen Juania, Rhopalostylis and Parajubaea as well as Cocoid hybrids in littoral/perfect urban locations (and have pondered Ceroxylon), but that is a new species to me.

24.0C was the average high for July, which is running >5.0 C above the norm. We accumulated 270.5 base 10C GDDs when the average is close to 160. Precipitation was hardly over 1mm, so it looks like the year will likely qualify as Csb, warm-summer med, unless August is miraculously >22 C and/or gets loads of rain (unlikely). January was very rainy this year so I think this will be a Csb year.

Makes me think parts of the area could support some highland chrysalidocarpus, and other cooler growing but daytime warmth tolerant palms. Dicipiens and baronii come to mind, but there are many others, smaller ones for fitting in sheltered spots from winter and wind.

yes also here

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@Ben G. Very nice find. Probably a big box potted double that they planted out 20+ year ago.

Chamaerops humilis cerifera

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Arenga micrantha and Engleri, two species that grow very well here and are also resistant to light frost

Iam quite confident they were purchased as variegated merriillii seeds. They are a wanted palm in Australia and iam very surprised at how cool tolerant they are. Richard

Dypsis decaryi soaking up the afternoon sun. And a nice bunch of Arenga engleri seeds!

I don't know you, buddy, and: Nice to meet you! The Arenga engleri is doing great here. I have four in the garden. I also have Arenga micrantha, and that's good here too. They get filtered sunlight from other taller palm trees.

It’s looking quite good so far, if these varieties haven’t been cooked by the cold temperatures by now, then they are standing a fair chance of making it through winter. This is there first winter and a lot of the larger varieties have been purchased from the tropics. So there foliage is taking it quite well, considering it’s tropical growth. One thing I can’t work out is why the mattenensis havent been cooked by the cold yet. They are just sitting outside with the rest of the seedlings, no hothouse. Temperatures down to 2 degrees celcius not to bad for a zone push! Licuala poonsakii Calyptrocalyx flabellatusAreca tinomPonapae hentyi Arenga nana Geonoma pycnostachys Licuala mattenensis