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ok that’s understandable, i prefer pinnates too. just was making a suggestion. a royal would look really nice if you do get one, as long as you’re willing to deal with the fronds that drop periodically. i was thinking Phoenix rupicola would look great too, but you say you want a statement not an accent

Scream!

I successfully killed a 4 1/2 ft, 15 gallon B. edulis through the course of one winter.

The damage on some palms and cycads seems wildly inconsistent. It's really strange: Dioon Merolae has 8 or 9 totally torched fronds, and one untouched solid green one! Zamia Vasquezii on the N side of an Alfredii is 100% burnt to a crisp, and an identical one 6 feet away looks nearly perfect. More normal is the behavior of some Encephalartos Ferox in the open (exposed to wind) 100% torched, others with some windbreak are lightly damaged. I did pull one spear from a small B. Alfredii today. It is about 3 feet tall, so it is still super skinny near the bud. I haven't tried pulling on many spears yet. I am sure of 100% mortality on all Burretiokentia and Cyphophoenix species, along with several Dypsis/Chysalidocarpus Lanceolata and Pembana. The Lutescens will probably regrow from the roots. A bunch of others probably have bud death and I just won't know for a couple of months. Some stuff I am just going to "edit" out now instead of trying to fix them.

We received half an inch and some change overnight at my location and then an additional tenth of an inch this evening. Surprisingly, it did not rain at all during the plant sale. Hopefully a colder winter means it will actually rain consistently this summer.

@Bkue + @pj_orlando_z9b + et al. Hope you both get a few Adonidias and Roystoneas to push through. It's looking like I'll be removing one Royal and one Adonidia. The others should be able to pull through. Two of my coconuts are pushing new green growth, so there is hope there. While I was working the booth at the plant sale today, a few people asked me what the pinnate palms were on the east side of Summit tower downtown. My answer of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana apparently caught them off-guard, but when I explained that the building blocked all of the wind, it made sense why they were green.

This is a perfect time at latitude 26.71°(north of the Old Monkey Jungle) to chime in on this subject! This area of SE Florida is definitely not within the tropics (23° latitude) and we just experienced a cold event that it is necessary to travel back thirty-seven (37) years to find a cold event more severe. However, I would argue from the perspective of what grows and the overall warmth of the climate, that in many manners, it can be considered tropical-like. I detailed at the very bottom of the thread titled "Historic East Florida Freeze, February Screenshots" the climate data experienced during this cold event. At PBIA, on February 1, and February 2 of this month, low temperatures of 31°F were recorded for a total of three hours below freezing. This certainly does not dovetail into an easy discussion of a tropical like climate. That stated, I also detailed how the end of the month tally for the month of February 2026 at PBIA was a cumulative median temperature of 64.84°F. This eclipses the 64.4°F required in all months for a technical tropical connotation under Koeppen/Trewarthia. January 2026 had a cumulative median temperature of 67.01°F.. December 2025 had a cumulative median temperature of 71.84°F. All of these temperatures were recorded at PBIA. Parenthetically, even in our coldest event in 37 years, we met the tropical criteria for Koeppen/Trewartha. That was not the case during the December 1989 freeze. During that cold event, the cumulative median temperature for December 1989 was 57.48°F. The cumulative median temperature for January 1990 was 66.37°F. The cumulative median temperature for February 1990 was 70.04°F. All of these temperatures were recorded at. PBIA. In my other post above described, I detailed with specificity the weather underground station in Palm Beach referred to as Device One-KFLPALMB 251. During the February 2026 cold event, this device recorded an ultimate low temperature of 38.3°F with a cumulative median temperature of 67.8°F. That taps into another theory that I have based upon observations regarding a micro climate experienced in this area because of proximity to the.Gulfstream/Florida Current. I will not open that door in this conversation. More to the point, the obvious question becomes what grows? I have posted pictures in various threads of the tropical vegetation and palms in this area and how they have been affected. Ultimately, what can be grown in an area, particularly after a cold event, should lend some perspective regarding the tropical character of a place. Anne Norton Sculpture Gardens is adjacent to the Intracoastal and my knowledgeable friend Felix, who is the real man on the ground taking care of the palms, testified to me that AN did not experience a freeze. Please find some recently photographed specimens at AN: Neoveitchia storkii, which is indigenous to the Fiji Islands:

Question. So are sabal louisiana fast trunkers? Here's my sabal (purchased as a Brazoria but seems like a louisiana) louisiana. Is it possible for a sabal louisiana to have trunked this fast? This is 2026 and2021. It was planted as a 7g in 2021 and has a fat (2-3' around) trunk about 12"-16" tall.

Glad to see your majesty made it through.

Yes it does offer hope. That's how mine are. I did protect the one in the pic. Wrapped the bud and had some C9 lights on the ground to give off heat. So that helped. My other wasn't protected and the spears are pushing slower.

Just living in Sydney will do that to you 🤣

A few more from Pearland. Everything palmwise survived. The Queens fronds look great for 22-24°F. Bismarckia nobilis Medemia argun Butia , Copernicia alba, and Livistona nitida Phoenix theophrastii ‘Golkoy’ Copernicia alba #2 Butia x Parajubaea var. torallyi Mule palm Livistona decora Ravenea rivularis and King palm Queen, seed supposedly sourced from a hardy parent. Beaucarnea recurvata starting to form a thick caudex Acrocomia, possible totai Sabal uresana Beccariophoenix alfredii

They’re used to be coconuts in Jacksonville?

Regular odorata is supposed to be the toughest. I like your survivor seed plan. Maybe try one crossed with jubaea? I'd hit up @Scott W or @Bigfish between the two of them they can probably get you on some seeds or seedlings Good luck

They do clump up but nothing like the good old golden cane. They are a beautiful palm! Richard

We just received around .4 of an inch today. There was a slurping sound when I walked outside.

They do clump up but nothing like the good old golden cane. They are a beautiful palm! Richard

They are indeed a beautiful little palm, and quite tough but slow growing, the one I have in my garden is 25 years old and has endured dry conditions with low temperatures down to 2 degrees Celsius. But iam confident in planting out tube stock plants in my garden. Don’t let there small size deceive you there like a jack russell or Pekingese dog they maybe small but are tough little critters!

I have seen many of these die in wet/cold especially being that young it is susceptible. That ice did it in

I have gotten viable dypsis minuta seeds, still waiting to see if the louvelli are going seed up. And it’s the first time the poiveana have flowered so if track records are correct with most palms it will take a few years of flowering before I see any results, along with climatic conditions determining some results, but worth the wait!

After freezing rain and a low of about 20F, my butia spear pulled about three weeks after the deep freeze. I am disappointed it took so long to show any damage because I think it was pretty bad by the time I noticed it. After a couple of weeks of treating it for fungus, I still didn't see any new growth. So, last weekend I trunk cut it. I cut it really low and it still didn't look like it had any live tissue. I dug it out because I figured it was dead, and I didn't want to sacrifice its prime spot near my pool for a wonky-looking stump for the amount of time it would take to look good if it did grow back. I put it in a pot just in case I was wrong about it being dead though. Sure enough, a week later it is clearly growing: I have already planted my 5 to 7 gallon sized mule palm in its place. It will need more protection, but perhaps it will establish faster: All of this trouble with my butia is really frustrating since there are several butias within a mile of my home that look completely untouched. Mine had been in the ground more than 18 months, and it was finishing its second winter in the ground. So, it was apparently still too new to shake off freezing rain.

I dont know if anyone has mentioned it here yet, but I believe that as of Thursday for the first time since the drought monitor began back in 2000, the entire state of Florida is involved in a Moderate Drought or worse. Burn bans are also becoming more widespread across the Peninsula:

I’m so happy theyve both taken. Well done guys.

The aftermath of 22.5F is pretty brutal. The Butia and Jubaea hybrids look like nothing even happened. Here's my JxB, surrounded by torched Alfredii and Encephalartos: And the BxJ surrounded by more torched palms, Livistona Speciosa on the left, Archontophoenix Tuckeri behind, and Crysosophila Warscewiczii in the foreground right: And one of the two BxLytoWedd poking up above a remarkably good looking Encephalartos Ferox, with some likely dead Foxtails on the upper right: And the burnt to a crisp "Coco Queen" Romanzoffiana x Schizophylla, fortunately still green on the inner fronds:

I bought 2 one died and one is still fighting but would not call it a success yet!’n