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That may explain how this palm branched out, but can't confirm since it has been this three-arm specimen since before I moved in.

In late April of this year I took my students on a field trip to the Miami Zoo and picked up several seeds that had fallen on the pathway. The perennial plant hunter I am, I immediately planted them when I got home. They readily sprouted and I have planted two in my botanical garden. Just out of curiosity is anyone else growing this? If so, would you share your experience(s) with this species?

I really wanted to post this on Tropical Fruit Forum, but my registration is still awaiting admin approval. I've been waiting for two weeks. There was a comment on one of the Admin's threads about how he often doesn't check his email for weeks at a time. If anyone is a member there, please shoot any Admin an email stating "Raretype" is awaiting approval. Many blessings for anyone willing to do that. Their website doesn't have a contact link - unless I am missing something. Anywho, I have fresh Orange Crush Jackfruit seeds that I harvested today. A few are already germinated. Also, have plenty of cashew seed I have been harvesting over the last two weeks with new ones daily. Barbados Cherry as well. You can contact me at greenanole64@gmail.com All seeds are a buck each, plus postage. Also I have plenty of Jamaican Red Cassava - I can do cut to order cuttings for a buck each as well. Same with Mexican Sunflower. Moringa pods will be ready in a few weeks, I will sell whole pod for $5 each. Talk about getting the freshest seeds!

the tree on the far right also has a maybe half foot vertical crack in it. see photo. Should I be concerned about the leaning and the crack?

Yes, I’ve used root barriers when planting trees close to structures, and they can be effective. Installed correctly, at least 24 to 36 inches deep, they help direct roots downward and away from foundations. I recommend using a solid material like HDPE and placing the barrier between the tree and the house. It won’t completely stop root growth, but it can significantly reduce the risk of damage. Just make sure it's properly installed and deep enough.

PSSC is primarily the Los Angeles/San Diego areas. @DoomsDave is a member. Last Meeting: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/88980-pssc-may-2025-meeting-in-seal-beach-oc-ca/ The NoCal society is primarily in the Bay area. Next Meeting: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/89971-northern-california-chapter-of-ips-july-12-2025-garden-meeting/

Thanks. Yeah I agree it's really hard to take pictures well in the car.

very beautiful, large specimens.

i like the photos, Bodie. yes, it's really more difficult to take photos from inside a car or bus. i wanted to take some yesterday, but the local bus driver drove like he was doped up and the passengers had to be happy to arrive safely afterwards, although the advertisements always say you should change to public transport ... since the wife had to leave, i had the choice between bus or bike.

@kinzyjr what city are they based out of?

I know that the Palm Society of Southern California and the Northern California Palm Society have meetings. Hopefully someone who knows more about the growers out that way can chime in.

it's me again, Darold. i wrote to myself earlier. interesting what the sultry heat does to you. apparently i need more liquid ... 😁 i had already wondered why it is so fresh in your area now, also with regard to the air temperature. you explained it well in the thread "Looking down lord Howe Island Alley" which i have just looked at. unbelievable what the situation can do. we also have such phenomena.

@kinzyjr are there any meetings in the Central California area?

Wow I didn't know that. Yeah they're pretty easy to grow from cuttings a family friend of ours has a crape Myrtle and next time i'm at their house i'm gonna take a couple cuttings of it

In a way Europe can be considered a Eurasian peninsula, which is surrounded by water (Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea, Baltic Sea, and Black Sea). This results in more cloud cover and a milder overall climate. Also, Europe is for the most part on the same latitude as the Northern US and Canada.

Ryan, this is a very interesting topic 😄and also important with regard to the whole climate everywhere. someone explained to me a few years ago that depending on the amount of cloud cover there are more hours of sunshine or less. with regard to the sky being bright blue, this results in more hours of sunshine. this would explain why there are more hours of sunshine in a desert than elsewhere. one factor is certainly also the vegetation. if there are more trees, there should theoretically be more evaporation, and later more precipitation, if i am thinking correctly. more precipitation would mean fewer hours of sunshine. i would have to look it up, or maybe someone knows. in a dense jungle there should therefore also be fewer hours of sunshine, leaving out the average annual air temperature. there are certainly many other factors such as the geographic location of the measurement sites. Day length of the respective location etc. yes, and it seems to be a fact that the usa, let's put it this way, simply has many more hours of sunshine in most areas than most regions in europe. the south of europe can certainly keep up to some extent, depending on which region you compare or contrast it with. that was just thinking out loud ...

Can we have a close up of the clump's stems? Persistent wood-like leaf bases should be a distinctive feature of hooperiana.

you gonna pollinate that, or what LOL?

Looks good @Tracy. I think I’m just lucky regarding environment, soil makeup and temps. Hedyscepe, Belmoreana and Forsteriana all seem to do good for me. Dumb luck most likely. The alternative is I know what I’m doing. Probably low percentage that’s the reason!! 🤣🤣 -dale

Bricks. Dirt. I am so expletive expletive screaming expletive more expletives tired of pulling and digging up grass, so let's see if this expletive works. I am not a gardener. I am not a grassologist. But 4 inches deep of roots then hitting compacted gravel then more roots is just absolutely stupid and I don't have the energy for it. I sprayed the bed and a few test spots. The yellow jackets are still going ape poopy over all the fresh mud over here, and I'm wiped. So I guess if this stuff works, I'll pull the rest of the cardboard off and spray what's under it and at sunrise I'll lay down some mulch. I have to go get refills on Sancho's pain meds on Monday, and there's a wally world there and supposedly they've got some cheap lavender plants in stock, so I might grab 4 and finally plop some of these Bermudana babies in the ground.

Dale i have found Howea belmoreana to be a little slower. I don't have any Howea forsteriana here in Leucadia but my neighbor has several along our fence line. I have 3 belmoreana in Carlsbad and about a dozen forsteriana and the forsteriana are much taller after a couple of decades. The belmoreana do great but they are definitely a little slower for me. I planted this Howea belmoreana around 2011, and had to transplant it in 2013 to a different spot due to a house remodel. It never faltered. Hedyscepe canterburyana has been very finicky for me. I have planted 4 or 5 and only one has been a long term survivor. It is probably 15 years old and a fraction of the size of any of my Howeas.

Between whatever my health issues are and these stupid meds, no. I absolutely cannot do that lol. 20 years ago? Ehhh I couldn't lift it but I could damn sure push it onto a trailer.

Yes,Trachy's.. Would need to dig 3x3x3 for a successful transplant. Can you lift 500 pounds by yourself? 🤔 Probably better off to buy a potted tree and put in the time to grow to that size . 🤷‍♂️ Aztropic Mesa, Arizona

😅😅😅😅😅 I was about to offer to buy. nobody ever looks at date including myself 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Since I've moved to this house 2017 I've been taking branches with seeds on them from my Sabal minor (across the back of the property) to try to extend their range along both property lines on the left and right. I'm happy to say it has been successful. Here's a shot of crape myrtle 'Sioux', which I just planted last year along the driveway (a fragment of which is visible in lower left hand corner of photo) with naturalized sabals below. It will eventually get to the point where I have too many and will have to begin pulling them, but I haven't reached that point yet. In fact, I'm thrilled with the results. Having Sabal minor as filler gives the landscaping a graceful, tropical appearance. And I have hibiscus (syriacus) too!