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On 6/16/2021 at 3:59 AM, Meangreen94z said:

I think they found the RPS seeds were in fact Queretaroensis x Filifera, which is a natural hybrid that occurs(both species habitats overlap). Although yours seem to look a bit more pure.

I have three Y. queretaroensis but only one is the right form. The other two are hybrids like Daniel wrote. But they don't look the same. It was discussed many times that a few years ago a lot of seeds where collected in the area where hybrids exist and sold as pure queretaroensis. 

Will show some pictures as soon as possible .

Eckhard 

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16 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

If I ever come to Texas we should have some beer together....

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Sounds great.

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On 6/18/2021 at 12:01 AM, Palmensammler said:

I have three Y. queretaroensis but only one is the right form. The other two are hybrids like Daniel wrote. But they don't look the same. It was discussed many times that a few years ago a lot of seeds where collected in the area where hybrids exist and sold as pure queretaroensis. 

Will show some pictures as soon as possible .

Eckhard 

Hi,

here are my three Y. queretaroensis.

First the real one (got it as a small plant from the german Yucca and Agave expert M. Bechthold). It has very thin leaves:

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Second is a plant I bought from the same guy as a seedling named as hybrid (sorry it got burnt by the sun):

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Third one I got as seedling named as true form but turned into a hybrid:

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All need to stay in pots and have to overwinter in the cold cellar.

Eckhard

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On 6/14/2021 at 11:13 PM, teddytn said:

I’m blown away, you weren’t kidding about having some hybrids! I wonder what that filamentosa x rostrata will look like in a few years? That’s so cool

Hi Teddy @teddytn

here are some more hybrids:

Y. (filamentosa x elata) x rostrata:

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Y. glauca x linearifolia:

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Y. pallida x rostrata:

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Y. recurvifolia x rostrata:

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Y. filamentosa x rostrata "Blue Swan":

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Y. flaccida "Bright Edge" x thompsoniana - need to cut the roses behind

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Y. unknown (found it on the island of Jersey a few years ago in an abandoned property and took a part of the rhizome with me), it already flowered:

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Y. angustissima x baileyi (in the background Y. floribunda x linearifolia):

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There are many more but most of them are very small.

Eckhard

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3 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi Teddy @teddytn

here are some more hybrids:

Y. (filamentosa x elata) x rostrata:

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Y. glauca x linearifolia:

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Y. pallida x rostrata:

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Y. recurvifolia x rostrata:

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Y. filamentosa x rostrata "Blue Swan":

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Y. flaccida "Bright Edge" x thompsoniana - need to cut the roses behind

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Y. unknown (found it on the island of Jersey a few years ago in an abandoned property and took a part of the rhizome with me), it already flowered:

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Y. angustissima x baileyi (in the background Y. floribunda x linearifolia):

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There are many more but most of them are very small.

Eckhard

All of those are fantastic!!!! What are your thoughts on appearance when fully grown. Especially the crosses with rostrata, do you think they will grow vertically and have a trunk? The blue swan is gorgeous! The unnamed variegated has a great color. Filamentosa color guard may be the most common yucca used in landscaping near me, the green/ light green, white is a fresh look. Hats off to you sir!!!

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2 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Random yard of the day 

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Slice of heaven!! Rostrata right? How old is that monster?

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Not sure, probably over 20 years atleast. You can see it clears the roof of the 1 story home by a decent amount . Granted it’s slightly elevated.

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Hi all,

Update from today, There must be some elata in this Y. "hairy", the flower stem is now more then 2,2 m / 7,2ft. and is still growing.  As well here is an overview of my flowering Yuccas in the front yard. Third picture shows the flowers of Opuntia phaeacantha "Orangeade". Last picture shows the flowers of Echinocereus triglochidiatus f. inermis. Due to the lot of rain currently there's no chance of trying to cross some Yuccas. But most of them need some more time and the forecast looks better.

Y. "hairy"

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Overview with 6 flower stems

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Opuntia

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Echinocereus

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Have a nice weekend.

Eckhard

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On 6/25/2021 at 12:52 PM, Palmensammler said:

Hi all,

Update from today, There must be some elata in this Y. "hairy", the flower stem is now more then 2,2 m / 7,2ft. and is still growing.  As well here is an overview of my flowering Yuccas in the front yard. Third picture shows the flowers of Opuntia phaeacantha "Orangeade". Last picture shows the flowers of Echinocereus triglochidiatus f. inermis. Due to the lot of rain currently there's no chance of trying to cross some Yuccas. But most of them need some more time and the forecast looks better.

Y. "hairy"

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Overview with 6 flower stems

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Opuntia

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Echinocereus

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Have a nice weekend.

Eckhard

The opuntia orangeade is gorgeous!!!

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Seed grown Yucca Baccata that I confirmed wasn't grass:

Took over a month to germinate, which is still faster than I expected.20210702_200522.jpg

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Hi all,

this is real Yucca power. This area was cleaned before building the pool. The still remaining rhizomes are about 30cm / 12 inches below ground level and sent up plants. Don't know how to save them as I want to built a wooden deck in this area. But I already have some plants of this one so I will cut these down...

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Eckhard

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Nothing special.  I found this yucca under one of my ash trees.  It's probably Yucca treculeana but not sure.

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19 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi all,

this is real Yucca power. This area was cleaned before building the pool. The still remaining rhizomes are about 30cm / 12 inches below ground level and sent up plants. Don't know how to save them as I want to built a wooden deck in this area. But I already have some plants of this one so I will cut these down...

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Eckhard

Same here, I’ve dug out plantings of filamentosa that I took “extra care” to make sure I got all of it (pain in the ass, and my hands from digging) next year come back from seemingly no root mass in the ground

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The flower stem of yucca "hairy" now reaches three meters (9.8 ft.). Tried to cross it with my Y. floribunda "Monster". The color of the flower stem, from Y. filamentosa "Karthausgarten" x rostrata is impressive. Tried to cross it with the moster too. If it wil not rain this week I will try to cross the hairy with Y. fila x rostrata and vise versa.

Y. hairy:

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Y. fila x rostrata

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Regards

Eckhard

 

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A few repeats in better lighting but mostly new. Kingsland Texas area and Longhorn Cavern State Park.

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When my wife and I were travelling through Arizona and New Mexico I was always searching for this. But there was not a single yellow flowering one.

This one is really rare. Do seeds bring yellow flowers or do they return to red? I once was told that seeds  might not be true to colour.

Good find and thanks for showing.

Eckhard

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33 minutes ago, Palmensammler said:

When my wife and I were travelling through Arizona and New Mexico I was always searching for this. But there was not a single yellow flowering one.

This one is really rare. Do seeds bring yellow flowers or do they return to red? I once was told that seeds  might not be true to colour.

Good find and thanks for showing.

Eckhard

Yes , they aren’t nearly as common in cultivation as red, but every parviflora in that shopping center was yellow. Atleast 30 plants. I would say they are consistent if not cross pollinated based on that. I saw a few developing seed pods. I’ll try to collect and include with the others I have for you.

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I have some red seedlings from seeds I collected in Phoenix. My dream would be to cross both colours sometimes in the future. Are there any natural hybrids? If yes do they have a different colour?

Would be amazing to receive some seeds.

Thank you so much.

Eckhard 

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Hi Daniel,

Wonderful looking plants. Are they yours? I grow Nolina greenei, texana and microcarpa. The texana flowered three years ago. Unfortunately all of them don't grow a stem. Currently I try to germinate some hibernica seed as this one seems to be able to survive my climate with some protection. Never found a really hard Nolina growing stems.

Will take some pictures when the sun is shining again (hope this will happen another time this year), Currently it's like monsoone season.

Eckhard

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Hi all,

besides the virgine self pollination of my Yucca karlsruhensis x "Elena Star" it looks like I was finally able to create a hybrid by my own. Two fruits of Yucca (filamentosa "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (filamentosa "Hairy" x elata) are growing. I hope the two fruits will ripe until they finally are worth to be harvested and carry enough seeds that are viable to spread this cross.

Y. karlsruhensis x "Elena Star"

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Y. (filamentosa "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (filamentosa "Hairy" x elata)

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My Yucca addiction can go on...

Eckhard

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5 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi all,

besides the virgine self pollination of my Yucca karlsruhensis x "Elena Star" it looks like I was finally able to create a hybrid by my own. Two fruits of Yucca (filamentosa "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (filamentosa "Hairy" x elata) are growing. I hope the two fruits will ripe until they finally are worth to be harvested and carry enough seeds that are viable to spread this cross.

Y. karlsruhensis x "Elena Star"

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Y. (filamentosa "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (filamentosa "Hairy" x elata)

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My Yucca addiction can go on...

Eckhard

Nice, do you have a full list of all your species?

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Yes I do.  I have an excel-file with all plants and germinating seeds. As it is a little bit messy at the moment I will clean it up that weekend and create a pdf.

Eckhard

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On 7/25/2021 at 7:34 PM, Meangreen94z said:

The less common yellow flower form of Hesperaloe Parviflora

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These have become popular in my area. An interesting observation of mine, each leaf seems to be fatter and longer on the yellow flowering specimens, as well as longer flower stalks. Hit me up if you guys need help acquiring. 

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On 8/3/2021 at 3:59 PM, Palmensammler said:

Hi Daniel,

Wonderful looking plants. Are they yours? I grow Nolina greenei, texana and microcarpa. The texana flowered three years ago. Unfortunately all of them don't grow a stem. Currently I try to germinate some hibernica seed as this one seems to be able to survive my climate with some protection. Never found a really hard Nolina growing stems.

Will take some pictures when the sun is shining again (hope this will happen another time this year), Currently it's like monsoone season.

Eckhard

Hello, Sorry somehow I skipped over this. Those aren’t mine, all of my Nelsonii are small. I’m growing Nolina Microcarpa, Texana, Lindheimeri, Durangensis, Parviflora, Palmeri var. Brandegeei, Hibernica, Bigelovii, and a few others. I’ve tried Parryi and Longifolia but can’t find good seed.

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Hi,

Does somebody know if that is a Yucca aloifolia or gigantea? I gonna cut some cuttings and take them home but I live in zone 7b/8a and a gigantea would not be hardy enough. 

 

 

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On 8/8/2021 at 7:43 PM, Meangreen94z said:

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What is that tall yucca with the powder blue leaves? At first glance the color looked the same as rostrata but the leaves are too wide. Maybe a cross like rostrata x faxoniana? 

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5 hours ago, teddytn said:

What is that tall yucca with the powder blue leaves? At first glance the color looked the same as rostrata but the leaves are too wide. Maybe a cross like rostrata x faxoniana? 

This would be a perfect cross.

Eckhard

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7 hours ago, teddytn said:

What is that tall yucca with the powder blue leaves? At first glance the color looked the same as rostrata but the leaves are too wide. Maybe a cross like rostrata x faxoniana? 

Yucca Rigida 

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3 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

 

This would be a perfect cross.

Eckhard

Cold Hardy Cactus in Colorado makes the opposite cross. Faxoniana x Rostrata.They are available again on their website and Etsy.com . They are a little different than Rigida with longer leaves. There aren’t any trunking specimen yet, that I know of. 
https://coldhardycactus.com/collections/yucca/products/yu024-yucca-faxoniana-x-rostrata-hybrid

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Atleast at a small size they don’t seem to like wet cold. I lost 3 of the 5 seedlings I had last winter. I just ordered a few more when these became available again.

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7 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

Yucca Rigida 

I have 2 rigida, they’re very young though. Wow, can’t wait now!!!!

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28 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

Cold Hardy Cactus in Colorado makes the opposite cross. Faxoniana x Rostrata.They are available again on their website and Etsy.com . They are a little different than Rigida with longer leaves. There aren’t any trunking specimen yet, that I know of. 
https://coldhardycactus.com/collections/yucca/products/yu024-yucca-faxoniana-x-rostrata-hybrid

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Atleast at a small size they don’t seem to like wet cold. I lost 3 of the 5 seedlings I had last winter. I just ordered a few more when these became available again.

I’ve ordered a few things from cold hardy cactus this year. Funny you mention that. I went on their yesterday specifically to order cylindropuntia whipplei snow leopard and ordered a few yuccas as well, one being the faxoniana x rostrata cross. 

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1 hour ago, teddytn said:

I’ve ordered a few things from cold hardy cactus this year. Funny you mention that. I went on their yesterday specifically to order cylindropuntia whipplei snow leopard and ordered a few yuccas as well, one being the faxoniana x rostrata cross. 

Keep it dry and warm during the winter until it hits a decent size. They are obviously hardy when bigger, that nursery is in the Denver area

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