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Trachycarpus latisectus

MattyB

By MattyB
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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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This guy is looking really pretty at this stage. I think this palm gets passed over a lot due to "Palm Snobbery". 

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Looks like it could use a bit of iron. It's on drip irrigation and only gets watered once every 15 days. 

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Cool fuzz on petioles

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

TexasColdHardyPalms

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They aren't very cold hardy which limits them around my parts.  

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I think I might be mistaken. I think this might actually be T. martianus. Anyone think so?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Neil C Mentor

Neil C

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Great looking palm! Reminds me of a young Saribus rotundifolius minus the spines.

Regards Neil

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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6 hours ago, MattyB said:

I think I might be mistaken. I think this might actually be T. martianus. Anyone think so?

Looks like a T. latisectus

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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I like them. I germinated my seeds of T.latisectus some 12 years ago and still aren´t flowering. T. martianus flowers earlier.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Matty your palm looks like T. martianus, the Ear Hair palm.

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MattyB Grand Master

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I think you're right Dave. I forgot 

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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It's T. martianus. Sorry for any confusion 

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Cikas Mentor

Cikas

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It is Trachycarpus latisectus, not martianus. Martianus looks different. I have both. 

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Xerarch Grand Master

Xerarch

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:huh: seems like we have a bit of a dilema here, whatever it is, it's a nice representative of this often under-appreciated genus. 

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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8 hours ago, MattyB said:

I think you're right Dave. I forgot 

Ear hair wins, what can you say?

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Cikas Mentor

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Both latisectus and martianus ( and many other trachycarpus species ) have '' ear hair ''.  I will add photo of real martianus later. Your palm does not look like martianus. 

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Cikas Mentor

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Trachycarpus martianus has regular leaf splits and leafs are in general very delicate. They will burn very easy on full sun during hot temperatures.

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Trachycarpus latisectus on other hand is more tolerant on full sun during hot temperatures. It has somewhat less delicate leafs. And leaf splits are not regular.

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Hillizard Grand Master

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I bought this several years ago from a San Diego source that's no longer in business. I was told it was Trachycarpus latisectus, but after reading this discussion thread I'm not so sure. It takes morning sun here in interior NorCal OK and freezing temps don't bother it, so I can leave it outdoors year-round. Whatever it is, it's a nice palm! ;)

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quaman58 Grand Master

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I have to go with latisectus as well...

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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zero Grand Master

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I just planted this latisectus but it looks different than others I've seen posted.  Anyone else growing this?  I put mine in mostly shade.  I haven't seen any Trachycarpus in this area.

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19 hours ago, Fusca said:

I just planted this latisectus but it looks different than others I've seen posted.  Anyone else growing this?  I put mine in mostly shade.  I haven't seen any Trachycarpus in this area.

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Going to need some better pictures of the fronds.  From this photo I would say its not latisectus, the fronds look very thin and divided.  Latisectus has fuller fronds, I'll have to get a photo of mine.  I have it in part shade.

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My latisectus that I brought with me from Oregon.  I dug it up after the last time it was attacked by rabbits.  Every time they found it, they would eat every frond and set me back a year so it’s still small. 

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Thankfully, I don't have rabbit problems,  I adore the Wagner Ring Cycle and also enjoy this !

 

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San Francisco, California

MattyB Grand Master

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Here's the 8 years later update.  Funky trunk kink from a very large Brazilian Red Cloak plant that was overtaking the area, which has since been cut down.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

zero Grand Master

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4 hours ago, Chester B said:

Going to need some better pictures of the fronds.  From this photo I would say its not latisectus, the fronds look very thin and divided.  Latisectus has fuller fronds, I'll have to get a photo of mine.  I have it in part shade.

Yes, I have my doubts about the ID as well.  I believe that it was grown from seed sourced from Garry at Coldplant but not sure.  I'm told it's a slow grower.  Any ideas?  Doesn't look like yours or Matt's.

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Jon Sunder

Chester B Grand Master

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6 hours ago, Fusca said:

Yes, I have my doubts about the ID as well.  I believe that it was grown from seed sourced from Garry at Coldplant but not sure.  I'm told it's a slow grower.  Any ideas?  Doesn't look like yours or Matt's.

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Doesn’t look like latisectus to me. Maybe Princeps “New Form”?

zero Grand Master

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17 hours ago, Chester B said:

Doesn’t look like latisectus to me. Maybe Princeps “New Form”?

I'm not familiar with "New Form" but the undersides of the fronds on mine are the same glossy green as the top and not silvery as I'd expect for princeps.  Oh well.

Jon Sunder

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