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Many flowers over the years. First time I’ve seen seeds. Will see if they turn out viable. 20’ish years old from a 20 gallon. Dana Point, CA

Latania opening a new frond

A nice young chamaedorea graminifolia juvenile, and one heck of a palm collection!

Well if that’s the case, your post @Harry’s Palms has been inspirational to post a nice picture of a couple of chamaedoreas! Cham sartori Cham elatior

Hey there everyone. Its been a while. Had a rough NYC winter this year. Lots of snow and cold wet weather. Windmill Palm took a little beating!! But still thriving! 16ft to top of crown, 12ft to top of trunk. Just gave her a prunning. Unfertlized seeds avaliable.. not sure if you can pollinate them? Good luck to all this winter!! Bobby

Cycas debaoensis - 1st leaf of the year (late July) of the three I have in-ground. Growing out from under the shade of my Trachycarpus princeps. My hope is that any leaf-chewing insects ignore it and choose more tasty plants.😉

It’s the beginning of soil making on lava in the background of this Metroxylon is a pile of trash tree. It will take 2 to 3 years with the pigs help to get turned into soil so I’m just gonna keep throwing debris behind this bloke. We are building the soil up for a nearby rainbow eucalyptus, but the palm will benefit as well..

Pinanga sp.’Thai mottled dwarf’, or at least sold as such.

Yes me too!! I would need to dig again those pictures from my old hard drive! Here are some of them: Such a wonderful and colorful palmtree 🌴😀 JB

Mine is looking a little yellow, but I still love the shape.

I have a decipiens about that same size that also set seed for the first time this year. This thread has given me some hope - a rat decided to do me a favor of cleaning all the seeds of their fruit while they were still green, but had stopped noticeably getting bigger. The fruit was soft and apparently tasty, but the seed were still green. I didn't realize they stayed green. So maybe they were ready? I did cut a few open and they had beautiful white endosperm, but I could not find an embryo in the two seeds I cut, which was really surprising to me because the seeds look perfect and developed quickly during warm weather (may to July pretty much). I will just put the rest in a baggie and hope that at least some are OK. Matt

I had a Wodyetia growing right next to the Foxy Lady and it always struggled to grow for years. Several other Wodyetia trials went poorly too. Pure Veitchia never worked for me either but the hybrid just keeps cruising along.

I could only imagine a palm garden of nothing but Dypsis species, no other palm except for the whole dypsis genus could you imagine what that garden would look like. Richard

I wasn't sure since I've def veered away. The seedlings are still there, they're just surrounded by non palms.

What a great looking palm!

A bit farther along now

This is one that I have been able to keep under control. Harry It has enjoyed giving us a garden view over our main bathtub in our master bedroom without the need for a curtain. I planted this over 20 years ago . I bought it from Jungle Music as a Caryota “ something” ( I forget , but rare ) single trunk . I called Phil when it started suckering and he said it got mixed up and is indeed C. Mitis .🙁Last year I cut 3-4 huge , flowering trunks out and thinned the base. There are plenty of younger stems that will be tall enough when the next , older trunks flower. It seems perpetually regenerating . This is one of my smallest clumps , others are used for privacy and are much bigger!

The good old Ferox cone is getting more mature deeper into winter!

In a country such as Australia with some of the deadliest snakes in the world, and with 4 of the deadliest snakes in the world in my area I fully understand the snake thing well, and having great big piles of palm mulch lying around is not a good practice for sure. Another danger factor for me is the fire threat from such a pile of palm leaves, a mound 8 feet tall of palm leaves waiting to explode in flames in bushfire conditions in my area is a serious threat so I have to burn those leaves in winter as part of a fire management protection in summer. Which is an interesting issue who would have thought about a palm garden creating a fire danger threat! I also live in a very large area of national parks and state. Have a google for Yuragir national park NSW Australia, with my property at Halfway creek Grays road and there’s no shortage of eucalyptus trees that’s for sure, and you will see how large of an area, and when it comes to the critters I live in their habitat so all creatures great and small are welcome @happypalms And I got some more mulch, and iam in mulch heaven, loving life in the bush with my garden, where the world alone doesn’t bother me!

Will look into it for you, the seed was supplied by our dear friend @palmtreesforpleasure so he has the actual answer to what the true variety is in question!

Some magical little Australian native flowers adding that winter warmth in the heart!

Got a photo of the C elatior stem Richard? Very young to have fully pinnate fronds like that. Might be C tacanensis.

Luckily they do well here in East Hawaii, glad I was able to plant a few in the garden. Tim

Not under my brown thumb, Jim... I managed to kill my 1 and only volunteer in transplanting... Butch

I already have huge piles of palm leaves around my garden I mulch what I can, but with a garden the size of mine it’s easier to pick them up and use mulch that I bring in. I don’t mind the critters, it’s the big leaf sheaths that look unsightly and take forever to break down. The mulch I get is from the electrical company’s that do vegetation maintenance for the power lines at a bargain price, so I just get it whenever they have it. Eventually I will have enough to make soil and use that as good layer of mulch. My sandy soil eats it up like it’s going out of fashion (the e weigh calls it the sand monster that eats anything) just look at any permaculture garden and you can see the difference with mulch or any bare patch of earth once mulched it transforms the soil. If you want your plants to grow with little effort mulch is the way to go!

They can get a bit more than anticipated , like Arenga Engleri . Sometimes that’s what we want , privacy or natural screen. They do a bit of self thinning when they flower . I cut the flowering stems out and that keeps them controlled. Harry

They do love a bit of water, and shade. A big clump is a bit difficult to keep in order. I thin out the suckers on my one so it doesn’t get out of control. Richard

You need monostachya, I hear that’s cool tolerant!

One top ornamental palm, you won’t regret planting that one!

At it again with a nice little rps order that will Keep me out of trouble. Bottom heating 30 degrees celcius, coco coir perlite mix. Pretty basic but it works!

This genus is terribly difficult for me to differentiate between them. Even more than young Pritchardia, and that’s saying something. Nonetheless, here are two that were purchased either as argentea or maybe argentata..they’re similar in speed of growth and having silver backed leaves. Here you go!

Full sun right from the start. Here’s a photo of it about a year after planting. A very fast grower!

Weekly Galveston visit… glad to see the overgrown crap along the causeway is being trimmed/ removed finally including the Washingtonia haha . Moody gardens pushing the zone push pretty hard with this coconut lol .. they removed a really nice monstera and clumping fishtail in this spot for the coconut 💔

Nice.... Hoping one of mine lives to seed and my daughter can bump this thread in 30 years.

Saw lots of established queen palms today from Kemah to Bacliff and Texas City. I won't take them for granted this time. They definitely are the benchmark for a strong zone 9. The USDA zone map actually has this part of the bayfront on the cusp and/or just inside zone 10a. It still deeply pains me to see this area look like the Carolinas lol. This one is a few blocks from the boardwalk behind the fish and chips place (not bad btw)

I knew they were supposed to be slow, but after 12 years from a "small above the soil" 5 gallon my bailey has weathered 2 hurricane force wind events and a resulting spear mold infection that took 2 years to fully eradicate. IRMA had the worst hurricane damage by far, newer leaves cut the older ones up good with petiole thorns. It had half the leaves shredded on the windward side. Currently its 4-5 leaves short of a full crown but its growing quickly now. Three pics: august 2011 6 months after planting showing a new flush of leaves. Second pic 2017 just prior to iRMA and last pic today sept 4 2023. By comparison with the peak of the house roof of 16', it looks to be 2-3 foot taller overall so a few feet shy of 20', and just about 7' of trunk. I could tear the leafbases off with my hand but allowing them to fall off naturally leads to a more smooth trunk. The first 4 feet of leafbases are loosely held, a smooth trunk awaits in the near future. Annual growth in height and numbers of leaves increases as the palm matures so a slow start does not mean its slow in a 12 year scale. I'd say its a medium grower.

If I have one regret about planting C baileyana its that I did not get 3-4 more of them back in 2011. As a 5 gallon palm it wasnt a particularly attractive palm but it is one of the few palms I have that grows more attractive as it gets older. I recently planted some small blue C. hospitas, wish I had done that 10 years ago too.

One of several key identifying aspects of baileyana is those nasty sharp black teeth on the petioles. Trying to treat a bud with a spray bottle of fungicide is hazardous for your forearm. These are among the nastiest thorns of any species in my yard, they arent as big as Livistona saribus or copernicia alba but they are many arranged in a saw pattern and sharper than those two. Getting your arm in there without injury is tough, even squeezing a spray bottle of fungicide could get you cut good. This is part of the reason it took a while to get rid of the fungus I suspect, hard to even get a bottle in there with so many petioles with sharp teeth. The crown width of my bailey when the crown is full is within 1-2' of my fallaensis when it has a full crown. The fallaensis has a thicker shorter petiole and a bigger, longer leaf measured as much as 6'6" long vs vailey at almost 5'. The fallaensis leaf is also a foot wider, 5' vs 4'. But other than that the crowns are of similar size. The fallaensis trunk is also nearly half again thicker according to what I have read.

Mine was planted in 2019 in a 7 gal. It was a little crooked from Ian, but is growing well. I irrigate regularly and also use Florican fertilizer. It is about 7 ft tall now. Very happy with its growth.

That's an awesome palm, I'm definitely looking forward to mine getting that big! I bought a 7g from MB Palms back in December 2018, and planted it in the SE side of the yard in April 2019. It was in full sun at MB, but ended up with too much shade in the spot I'd picked. At one point the invasive giant elephant ears Xanthosoma sagittifolium were shading it, then a bamboo (Asian Lemon) were shading it from the East, and now this giant Cycas on the East side is blocking a lot of sun. It was also fully shaded during the winter due to some tall water oaks and pines along the property line. But it's now 4 feet tall and it started with fronds the same size as the Macroglossa in the foreground. The good news is that it took about 50% burn with 24-26F + frost in January 2022, and essentially no damage with 20+ hours under freezing and minimum of ~26F at Christmas 2022. The Macroglossa in front of it was 100% defoliated but keeps growing back! The Fallaensis I bought and planted at the same time was very slightly hardier and is growing a little quicker but has always been in full sun. Here's the Baileyana:

the oaks it was under in myaka were almost complete shade all day, just a little filtered sun. It went into a spot on the north side of my house where summer sun hits for 12+ hrs so full sun, in the heat florida style. Winter sun was notably less there especially as a small palm.

There’s full-sun, then there’s FULL SUN. 6hrs a day of sun vs 14+ hours of full on broiling summer Florida sun, depending on the spot and time of year. Sometimes one persons full sun does not equate to another’s. I think many of us have experienced the temporary shrinkage of more sun exposure when planting out.

Notice in the year one pic the oldest leaves are bigger than the new flush. At first it just sat there and I was asking why in a florida summer it would not grow but suddenly late summer it pushed out 3 new leaves of smaller size than the old ones. My read on that is that it was grown in the shade and I put it in full sun so a natural compacting occurred after being elongated in pretty deep shade down on a ranch with lots of huge oaks in myaka.

I never shorted this one on florikan 8-2-12, they are supposed to be heavy feeders. I have also added sulpomag every year the last 4 years as it was trying to replace the leaves lost to IRMA and the fungus which rotted several spears subsequently. My take is the spear bundle in the grow point was fractuired in IRMA and that allowed the pathogens in when the wax coating was broken. I thought it might be lost when it took two years to get rid of the fungus. It also had a some damage in IAN as well so it has been growing back from that. It has been 4 years since the last fungicide treatment, I'll call this one a success. Michael about flooding, likely very good for that palm in sandy soil, they love water in the heat. This one is in a nice irrigation spot and has clayish soil that I dug all the way through(2.5 ft?) down to sand for good drainage and back filled with clay, some sand, organics, and about 10-15% perlite to ensure the soil drained well and didnt compact. Bailey in sandy soil wants plenty of water and that means a controlled release fertilizer to me, not slow release. I saw really sandy soil down on pine island when I was there, looks like a good place for surface MVP to retain moisture and nutrients.

Gorgeous palm and really you've managed to get some speed out of it! When we were living on Big Pine Key, our next door neighbor had a small baileyana he had purchased I think at Fairchild around 2010. He planted it and it just sat..and sat...and sat..for years. Just never did anything except put maybe a leaf or so on each year. We couldn't figure it out, since after all we were as close in the U.S. as you can get to its native land. Then we got smacked by the right eyewall of Irma with 4-5' of ocean water for a full day, and after that soaking, suddenly the thing started growing! I didn't track it further the last few years so am not sure if that growth-spurt continued, but it was notable enough for my neighbor to mention it. Who knows whether the salt actually affected it, perhaps it was also the nutrients (ocean-bottom sludge, sargassum, overflowing septic tanks, etc.), but I certainly noticed an effect on a number of my own palms in the ground after that burst of salt and nutrients. In any event, I love that you use the term "a new flush of leaves"...there are a lot of growers of this notoriously slow species in cool climates who I'm sure fantasize about the very idea!

Looks like it took 6 years to decide to go vertical, then a foot+ of solid trunk a year after that. It’s a good lookin heafty palm now. Theses Cuban palms are real whoppers when you see them in person. I’m sure pics make this one look smaller than real-life, when you are standing next to it.

Wow - this one turned into a beauty! I have got three or four seedlings that are really taking their time to push one strap after another but your documentation just reminded me why I purchased this species` seeds... 👍 Thank you for posting! Lars

Great photos in all of these threads-thanks!

Update

Same plant, another perspective. I recently dropped another one in the ground where it will get more sunlight longer than this one. I have one in my old garden which was getting mid-morning through mid-afternoon sun, so the hottest parts of the day and it seemed to do fine. I was worried the one pictured wasn't getting enough sunlight, as it waited to flush so long that it dropped all it's foliage before it flushed. It was after I put it in the ground, so it may have just been the transition of both moving from one home to another plus going into the ground.