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Not under the powerlines though. My guess is about 14 to 15 years before a 1 gallon will hit the powerlines. My sun exposure Chrysalidocarpus ambositrae is about 10 or 11 years in the ground from a 1 gallon and it will hit that height in another 4 to 5 years, so give it head room. Cocothrinax do well here but won't be a height problem. Arenga engleri cap out on height so are well suited for positioning under those powerlines. You get the added bonus of their fragrant flowers this time of year.

It just goes to show never give up on your seeds. I had this lot dead and buried, took them off the heat mat and put them on the potting bench around 12 months ago to use the old medium in some potting soil. Well iam glad I didn’t use that mix. I lucked up on one seed sprouting. If they haven’t rotted away completely, keep those seeds around you just never know your luck.

An interesting little batch of seedlings, seeds kindly donated by @palmtreesforpleasure it will be an interesting palm to grow for sure!

Cyphophoenix elegans and nucele do well in the coastal zone as does Clinostigma savoryanum. Maybe my neighbor a couple of blocks away, Billy or Dale in HB, can share their experience growing Bentinckia condapanna in the region impacted by the marine layer. I think they will be positive comments.

Here are a few shots of the mature P. beccariana. Tim

Dave, I am a little suspicious as to which palms that you can grow that they can't grow in Huntington Beach. You have been to my garden in Leucadia and seen what I am growing. Huntington Beach is very similar if not a little warmer and windier than her due to both local topography and the large flart plane inland from Huntington Beach. Look at Dale's plantings in Huntington Beach and some of the other members both there and in Seal Beach. So there are two parts to your question, first the palms that grow well in the coastal zone of Southern California, and second the ones that are smaller for small lots with lots of power lines impacting the overhead heights. On the coastal zone issues Chambeyronia of all variety will grow, several of the Burretiokentia species, Howea's of both variety, Rhopalostylis of all variations. Chrysalidocarpus of many species will all grow here, ambositrae, affinis, basilongus, cabadae, pembanus, rufescens, prestonianus, robustus, lanceolatus, lutescens, saintelucei and the list goes on. I could continue, but the focus isn't on what will grow in the coastal zone of Southern California, but what will grow that is appropriately sized. So I'm now going to focus on the smaller palms that will grow well in Huntington Beach, here in Leucadia, down in OB, Cardiff by the Sea, or Venice where the next SoCal Palm Society will be. Someone mentioned above the various Chamaedorea, which are good choices. Ravenea glauca is a good choice, but Ravenea xerophilla is a bit of a challenge unless there is a good southerly exposure, perhaps with a good wall behind it for reflected heat. Some of the smaller growing Pritchardia won't interfere with power/comm lines overhead. Burretiokentia kogihensis is a slower growing species that won't be a problem overhead for a long time compared to hapala. Cryosophilia stauracanthia is an uncommon small palm that will meet the criteria. Several Coccothrinax do well here in California's coastal zone. On a slightly different note, there are a bunch of Cycads that give a tropical feel. I don't think is a species in the Encephalartos genus that can't be grown here (Dale in Huntington Beach will verify that). Ceratozamia, Cycas, Lepidiozamia, Macrozamia and several Zamia thrive her for a tropical, palmy feel. Complementary plants like Anthuriums, Bromeliads and Orchids will all thrive. I know I'm missing a bunch of good recommendations but this is just a first swing.

I bought this as beccariana about 15 years ago. It seems to fit but I would be interested in other views. The trunk is quite thin for such large leaves. It's protected by a huge stand of henon bamboo which is flowering so it's going to be a challenge to keep it protected from prevailing winds.

P. beccariana #3 Tim

P. beccariana #2 Tim

Thanks to this thread I think I have some clarity of half dozen Pritchardia planted out back. They were leftovers from an Arbor Day event back in 2016. The two species of seedlings were P. beccariana and P. hillebrandii in small 4” pots. The P. hillebrandii grew twice as fast with wide flat leaves and abundant lepidia. I had always assumed these were the P. beccariana because of these traits. The real P. beccariana in the meantime, were much smaller with bowed leaves and very sparse lepidia, so I thought they were P. hillebrandii with wavy leaves and whitish leaf undersides developing as they got older. After looking at the photos on this thread, I realized which was which, primarily because of the more round shallowly divided leaves and very little lepidia. I’m still a bit shocked by the growth disparity between the two. Anyway, I do have mature P. beccariana in the garden, the inflorescence and seed key out with the species. Tim P. beccariana #1

By golly, I do live here! The oldest one came from a friend’s property on the way to Volcano. The palms were scattered among the native tree ferns and can you believe they didn’t particularly like them? At that time I knew nothing about Pritchardia, so I eagerly dug up the smallest one with a borrowed shovel and hauled it home. That task was hernia inducing for sure. Stayed in suspended animation for about two years then took off. Naivete can be so awesome in the right situation. Tim

Only one new frond but looking good, they're slower when grown in shade.

Gaussia princeps and any of the Hyophorbe will grow in the coastal zone. Give Hyophorbe lagenicaulis reflected heat from a wall for best results. Pseudophoenix sargentii is another Cthat will be slow enough to not cause problems for closer to 3 decades in a height constricted position. If you have headroom for something bigger in a spot, Chrysalidocarpus decipiens does well along the coast from Ventura to Point Loma at a minimum.

Three great palms getting my attention roscheria melanochaetes chamaedorea adscendens, linospadix monostachya and kerriodoxa elegans carpoxylon macrospermum

Tim, the mature one is a stunner.. How old do you reckon it might be? Looks like one you’d see in habitat. Oh yeah, that’s right, you live there . 😁

A lot of red, with 5 hokoeri in a row!

Chrysalidocarpus ambositrae and Hedyscepe

They absolutely can survive planted in the ground, in Phoenix, if sited correctly. (Think microclimate) Here's one I had grown from seed that was in that spot for several years. Also had a bottle palm in the ground for about 20 years before our brutal summer of 2020 took out both of them...🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Howdyall, I have a couple of palm friends in Huntington Beach, where it's cool enough that many of the much-beloved palms I can grow they have problems with. I've suggested genera like Geonoma from mountain regions which do well in places like San Francisco. One particular problem my friends have is that their lot is small, with electrical and phone wires across the back, which limits the size of things they can grow. Big stuff gets chopped, and Big Sibling Utilities are watching . . . . Anyway, thoughts appreciated including from those Up North, where heat gets a bit scarce.

Continuing my posts above, I thought I’d post the imposter P. hillebrantii next to the the real P. beccariana. The growth rate and size are apparent. Some close-ups as well. Tim

These are relatively common ones posted above but have lots of other palms for sale. Give me a call to see if I have what you are looking for......thx! -Joe 760-300-7339

That’s a special palm! Not many of those around at all. I hope it does well for you, should enjoy your climate.

Geonoma atrovirens adds a bit of colour to any greenhouse!

Good rain about so plant as much as you can! A good handful of chamaedorea plumosa, lytocarum weddlianum, dypsis lantzeana, anthurium vietchii, davidson plum and some draceana goldieana.

I have more two leaf seedlings, and more seeds germinating. Some of my collection will remain in containers indefinitely unless I move to the tropics. Richard

Palmpedia already exists, man.

Dypsis lantzeana, dypsis louvelli.

Calyptrogyne ghiesbreghtiana, not to worried about the cool wet conditions.

Two months after planting and it's starting to grow it's first set of fronds. Two have opened up and there are two more spears that are about to open up as well. Seems like it's got a got root establishment going. I'm going to remove the rope when the windy season ends and leave the braces on another year until it gets a strong root system.

Here are some plus others that survived or did poorly in the freeze

Some intresting varieties for a palm garden. All varieties have their own unique characteristics. And as for slow, like the sands through the hourglass so are the days of our lives!

That's an excellent palm tree, Harry. Very exotic and tropical. Your palm tree is worth more than ten palm trees put together. They are exotic and unique palms. There's a Botanical Garden there. Congratulations! And I can imagine the happiness and pride that brings you, my friend. 🌴🌴🦜🦜🗿

Been gone for a while. Wish they had an app for this site lol But here’s an update on my palms so far this winter in Northern Rio specifically Enchanted Hills. I decided to NOT cover my robustas like I did the past 3 winters and they seem to be doing better uncovered. Thinking probably a trapped moisture issue creating a freeze like effect. I did however get nervous about them being robustas and placed a heat coil around the trunk and loosely wrapped the incoming spear. The rest of the palms just received a burlap wrap around their trunk. I know the windmill probably didn’t need one but being that it is its first NM winter, I did it anyway.

thanks surprising found these guys around the beaches..

Do Pseudobombax pods and seeds mature if taken off the tree? I collected some pods off a local tree and opened one, both the fruit and the seeds were immature. I left them to rest in the sun, hope they can mature. Anyone has experience with something like this?

Ok I had a look in AI and indeed those sachets are water soluble, and should be thrown as a whole without previous opening in to the water bucket. This kind of package is called wsp, first two letters standing for water soluble. I guess I am still not so familiar with the potential of AI.

I’d assume things like Brahea decumbens, B moorei, Sabal minor, S etonia, S miamiensis, Guihaia sp, Trachycarpus nanus, Linospadix sp, Chambeyronia divaricata, dwarf Butia and Syagrus sp, Caryota monostachya, Chuniophoenix sp, Arenga nana, A gracilis, Rhapis sp, Pinanga gracilis, Pritchardia napaliensis and Ravenea cycadifolia would do well there and stay small in addition to the good suggestions above.

Been walking around more . Queens burned 5% to 10% Pigmy Dates burned 75% to 100% Bananas and Birds of Paradise burned 100% Philodendron selloum burned 0% This is around the George St / Historic district.

Below some palms in the green house I took during my visit to Antwerp zoo

I use a Samsung with the Android ops and this has worked on a few generations of phones for me. The flip the phone sideways always does the trick but it took me a while to discover it. Seeing where the poster is located, is really valuable when someone new is posting about a probem, so you can see where they are and respond with climate appropriate advice. I'm looking forward to seeing the rollout of the updated platform.

My guess is pistillate, female.

When they build that update, I hope they can create an encyclopedia about palm trees. It should be built with images and descriptions from each PalmTalk member, all compiled by a PalmTalk team of palm tree experts. The goal is to create a comprehensive encyclopedia where everyone can interact and view it through PalmTalk, ultimately leading to the publication of the "Book of Palm Trees"—the world's largest book on palm trees. This book should also include photos of germinated seeds of each variety, indicating whether germination is adjacent or remote. It would offer far greater knowledge than any other encyclopedia. Licuala Mapu: Female flowers are the longest. Male flowers are shorter and produce pollen. Female flowers receive the male flowers.

yeah i agree as of now on mobile you can’t directly quote images you either have to quote the whole entire comment or quote whatever nearby text there is and hope others know what you’re referring to.

When you're updating passwords, make it so you can read the password you have. Rolodexes get crowded . . . .

Those Nor Cal boys cleaned up! It was an honor and pleasure meeting a couple Palmtalk legends and thanks for your business👍🙏. I am down to just 2-3 gal. “True blue” Arenarius and just liners of Horridus. Still have good quantities of 15 gal. “True blue” Arenarius and most other plants listed. Lots of Nubis, Ferox, Hybrids etc.

I had petunias blooming past New Years on my patio. This is 1/6/26. Also a bonus pure filifera growing in acidic soil

Update. Finding a section of corrugated ADS drain pipe of at least 30” diameter proved to be too much trouble or just too expensive for me. So after looking around I decided to use a standard 55 gallon poly drum, at a cost of $15. It’s only 24” in diameter but at least it’s 34” tall. That's after I cut the top and bottom off it. Hopefully it does the trick.

I know folks who grow bamboo that cut the bottom out of large containers to contain the “runners” . I was told that the barrier should be a minimum of 18” deep. If you have a pipe supply company near you , you can get remnant cuts of PVC pipe in very large diameters and use that. The problem is the larger the pipe , the bigger the hole you have to dig. On the other hand , I have two Rhapis palms that have been in the ground for over 20 years and I just divide them when they send out runners . I let the runner grow for a while and then divide and pot. They make great gifts or potted plants for around the outside of the house. This is one that is controlled by division , been there over 20 years. Harry

Just went out and took some pics. It appears I have two females and one male. I may have to help them along and see if I can get some fertile seeds. But I’m not really sure of the species even though I bought them as falcifera. They appear identical to a picture listed on the Pacsoa website as falcifera.