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Heres a brief overview of pretty much every palm I have in the ground. So much of it is totally burned that I’m not sure how helpful this is. On the other hand If some of these make it could be useful. Exposure, 1,2,3,4 - least to most 4 = out in the open, 1 being fully artificially protected, 2 = naturally covered on 3 sides, 3 = naturally covered on 1 or 2 sides. Could also be a combination of the above also. In other words, a palm up close to the house and near the corner of a fence but with fronds extending well above protection might be 2 and 4. Young/small, maturing/medium mature/large or combination of the above. Level of damage Level of exposure Age/Size of Palm Status one week after cold front. Pritchardia sp? 40% leaf damage, level 3 exposure, Young to maturing, 3/4” of spear growth. Aiphanes minima - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp. mature 12” wood trunk, no spear growth. Beccariophoenix alfredii - 0% leaf damage, young to maturing, Level 2 exp., appears to be growing. Caryota mitis - 90% leaf damage, level 2,3,4 exp., Mature/large, growth status unknown. Chambeyronia olivoformis - 85% leaf damage, level 3 exposure, young to maturing, 3/4” spear growth. Gaussia princepts - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exp, maturing/medium, growth status unknown, Coccothrinax sp? Argentata/barbadensis? - 10% leaf damage, level 2 exp. Young/small Appears to be growing. Coccothrinax argentea? - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exp., young/small, status appears to be growing. Coccothrinax miraguama - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exposure, young/small, status appears to be growing. Coccothrinax alaxandri - 0% leaf damage, level 1-2 exp., young/small, status appears to be growing. Ravanela (traveller tree) - 100% leaf damage, level 4 exp, mature/large, status unknown. Vietchia spiralis - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/large, unknown. Chrysalidocarpus basilongus - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exp., maturing/small status unknown. Ptychosperma elegans - 70% leaf damage, level 2-3 exp., mature/ medium, Status no growth. Normanbya normanbyi - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., no growth. Cyphophoenix elegans - 90% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium. Status no growth. Gassia gomez pompae - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/smallstatus unknown. Chambeyronia olivoformis - 95% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium, status no growth. Coccothrinax miraguama havanensis - 0% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/small status appears to be growing. Pseudophoenix vinifera - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/small, status unknown. Ravenea rivularis - 75% leaf damage, level 4 exp., maturing/medium, status unknown. Latania loddigesii - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/medium, status 1/4” of spear growth. Chambeyronia pyriformis - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exposure, maturing/small, status 3/4” spear growth, Chambeyronia macrocarpa #1 - 100% leaf damage, level 2-3-4 exp., mature/large, status 1/2” new spear growth. Burretiokentia viellardii - 90% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium, status slight spear growth. Becarriophoenix fenestralis - 85% leaf damage, level 3 exp., maturing/nedium, status 1/2” spear growth. Coccothrinax macrglossa azul - 0% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/small, status appears to be growing. Ptychsperma elegans paddle leaf - 98% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium, status no growth. Chrysalidocarpus pilulifera - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/small, status no growth. Chrysalidocarpus prestoniana - 95% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium, status unknown spear is green. Phoenix sylvesteris x2 - no damage full exposure. Brassiophoenix drymophloeides - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature, medium. Dictyosperma album rebrum - 100 % leaf damage, level 3 exp., maturing small, status no growth. Cyphophoenix nucele - 99% leaf damage, level 3 exp., young/medium, status no growth. Dypsis rosea - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp. maturing/young, status appears to be growing. Chrysalidocarpus loucoubensis - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing small, status no new growth. Chambeyronia houlouensis - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium, status no new growth. Hydriastele beguinii obi - 20% leaf damage, level 1 exp., mature/medium, status 1/2” new growth on spear. Cocos nucifera red spicata - 100% leaf damage, level 2-3 exp., maturing/ large, status 1/4” new growth on spear. Pinanga javana - 25% leaf damage, level 1-2 exp, maturing/medium, status 1/8” new spear growth. Pinanga adagensis - 45% leaf damage, level 1-2 exp., maturing/medium, status 1/4” new spear growth. Chambeyronia macrocarpa #2 - 60% leaf damage, level 2-3-4 exp., mature/medium, status 1/2” of new spear growth. Archontophoenix tuckeri #2/3 - 70% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/medium, status unknown. Clinostigna savoryanum - 40% leaf damage, level 1-2 exp., mature/medium, status very small growth on new spear. Burretiokentia hapala - 40% leaf damage, level 2 exp., maturing/medium, status 1/4” of new spear growth. Calyptrocalyx polyphullus - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., mature/medium, status appears to be growing. Euterpe edulis - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exp., maturing/medium, status appears to be growing. Veitchia arecina #1 east - 100% leaf damage, level 4 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Chrysalidocarpus rufescens - 0% leaf damage, level 2 exp., young/medium, status unknown, Prychosperma elegans - 20% leaf damage, level 2 exp., mature/medium, status appears to be growing. Normanbya normanbyi #2 - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/medium, status no new growth. Veitchia arecina #2 east - 100% leaf damage, level 4 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Pseudophoenix sargentii - 15% leaf damage, level 2-3 exp., mature/medium, status appears to be growing. Licuala grandis - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/large, status appears healthy. Cocos nucifera HD - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/large, status 1/2” new spear growth. Cyphophoenix elegans - 10% leaf damage, level 2-3 exp., status appears healthy. Chrysalidocarpus lanceolatus - 60% leaf damage, level 1-3 exp., status some parts appear healthy. Thrinax radiata - 20% leaf damage, level 4 exp., maturing/large, appears healthy. Areca catechu dwarf - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., mature/small, status appears healthy. Wodyetia bifurcata - 95% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Licuala ramsayi - 10% leaf damage, level 2-3 exp., maturing/small, status appears to be growing. Pinanga speciosa - 50% leaf damage, level 1-2 exposure, mature/small, status 1/2-3/4” of new spear growth on 3. Archontophoenix tuckeri - 95% leaf damage, level 4 exp., Mature/large, status unknown. Ptychosperma elegans - 85% leaf damage, level 4 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Pseudophoenix sargentii #1 - 85% leaf damage, level 4 exp., mature/medium, status unknown. Bismarckia nobilis - 0% leaf damage, level 4 exp., mature/large, status slight shock? Appears to be growing. Syagrus schizophylla - 95% leaf damage, level 4 exp., status unknown. Satakentia liukiuensis / 100% leaf damage, level 1 - 4 exp., Mature/medium, status 3/4” new spear growth. Crownshaft and trunk covered/warmed leafs exposed. Roystonia regia - 90% leaf damage, level 4 exposure, mature/large, status unknown. Chrysalidocarpus pembana - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., no new growth. Caryota mitis - 100% leaf damage (main trunk) level 3-4 exp., maturing/medium. Status no growth. Rhapis excelsa - 0-5% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., status appears healthy. Syagrus amara - 60% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., mature/medium, status no growth/unhealthy before front. Arenga engleri - 100% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., status new spear appears ok. Ptychosperma schefferi - 85% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/small, status unknown. Sabal mauritiformis - 0% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., young/small, status appears healthy, in pot. Carpoxylon macrospermum - 75% leaf damage, level 1-4 exp., mature/medium, status 1/2” new spear growth. Lights and heater used to protect lower part of palm. Neoveitchia storckii - 20% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/large. Status 3/4” new spear growth. Most damage was from lights used to protect it. Caryota gigas - 70% leaf damage, level 1 exp., young/large, status unknown, covered by pot. Chambeyronia hookeri - 15% leaf damage, level 1 exp., mature/small, status no new growth. Hyophorbe indica red - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/medium, status 3/4” new spear growth. Attalea cohune - 80% leaf damage, level 3-4 exp., maturing/large, status unknown. Veitchia arecina + winin pair, 100% leaf damage, level 2-4 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Areca vestiaria maroon - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/small status appears healthy. Areca catechu semi dwarf - 20% leaf damage, level 2 exp., mature/large, status unknown. Protected by Bismarckia fronds. Licuala grandis - 0% leaf damage, level 1 exp., maturing/small, status appears healthy. Licuala peltata sumowongii - 0% leaf damage, level 3 exposure, maturing/small, status appears healthy. Hyphane coriasia - 0% leaf damage level 3 exp., maturing/small, status appears healthy, in pot.

Yes, he and his brother operated the nursery off farmland they owned. He invested heavily in inventory but not infrastructure, and unfortunately it caught up to him. From what he had told me any profit they made came from basic cold hardy species sold wholesale to local DFW landscapers. The rarer stuff was a dream of his for the business , that eventually became a massive loss. He spent tens of thousands on seeds from RPS alone, and that was before their shipping went crazy . He traveled to California , Florida , etc and bought every specimen level, seed producing age Cycad, Palm , Yucca , Dasylirion etc. he could get ahold of. From what he told me most of the rare stuff survived in his better greenhouses and he has kept for himself. He has absolutely no interest in being affiliated or caught up in the hobby/industry again.

Just perlite on a heat mat plugged into a 12 hour on/ 12 our off timer inside a Walmart takeout container. Took about 3 weeks to get them to pop. Cracked seed carefully using vise grip pliers. They work best due to the rounded shape of the pliers not crushing the seed insides. It did germinate a little faster than the coated seeds maybe by 10 days. I don’t really see a major advantage to doing this over keeping them in the shell.

I am aware that Joseph Rossi Lost most of his palms in the 2021 Freeze But does anyone know what happened to him he literally dropped off the face of the earth haven't heard anything about him in years. ! I'm assuming he just completely gave up on the palm hobby.

A few things to note heading into a winter that makes it colder: drought (especially bad like this year), la Nina fading out (especially suddenly like this year), and a pattern that sets in somewhat early, and stays locked in for some time in late December or early January, with an outlier cold event in October (mid 30s in October 2022) or November like this year. There are a bunch of warning signs to watch for but even then there are no guarantees. We had the Trifecta and then some this winter, so it hit more heavily for most than last year, but for me one bad night each year was all it took to wipe out half the garden and set the rest back. Natives are struggling so you know it's bad for them, but they also "know" how to recover better than our beloved garden plants typically do. These setbacks happen anywhere, but when you live on the edge of the yearly freeze line for some reason it hits harder. Almost there!

Hi, should I cover the root by soil now or when I repot it? I'm a beginner in growing palm seeds, so I'm asking for advice

The only palm that had damage here was Crysalidocarpus Lafazamanga. It browned up a little a couple days after our brief AM lows of 34-35F. Possibly not a great palm for cooler areas. It was fine before this and never showed issues in previous years.

We have been stuck in a pattern of stretching polar vortex, no real displacement and no real SSW. Just stretched PVs since November. Something I've noticed about this winter is that the freezes I have had (something like 15) have all mostly been colder overall compared to previous seasons, getting down into the mid to upper 20s more frequently than just staying in the low 30s. I have also had little to no frost days where the temperature didn't drop below freezing. The pocket of deep cold over Canada is going to continue to provide the threat of cold at least for NW FL for the next several weeks. I hope this is the last freeze event for all of us, but im sure I'll get another at least borderline cold snap before it's actually over with.

Man yall this is insane def gonna set a lot of people’s gardens and stuff Back awhile. that baby foxtail i planted along with the others that were larger are def dead in Kissimmee FL

Well at least that’s better than doing the dish’s, they did more than pressboards and farts in the 70s, maybe you didn’t hit your head perhaps it was something else you did in the 70s that’s related too psycadellics!🍄

The palm gods have spoken and if it’s action they want, action they get!

I guess so, lucky I don’t I have an active volcano on hand or I would be thrown into that 🤣

I started using an old dishwasher on the patio but that was before I apparently hit my head really hard and decided to start an entire nursery. Now I use a saggy folding table from the 1970s that's made out of pressboadd and farts.

Had a 36C day yesterday. I got up this morning to cloud rain forest conditions 20C and 97% RH with clouds probably descending to ground level complete with soaking fine drissle which the trees were capturing and turning into heavier rain underneath. You can literally hear the rain falling loudly under the trees but in the open it’s basically silent except for birds singing. Water is running into the tank quite fast. However if you check the radar, it’s not showing up. Probably because I’m in a valley at 13m asl and the radar tower is based at 70m asl. A truly beautiful morning that all the plants will be loving. IMG_4692.mov

Hey everyone......been a while and sorry I have not read what has been posted since I last posted but wanted to post a quick update on my palms. My 3 Coconuts are the ones I'm most concerned with. Everything else - while full of brown fronds - look like they are going to pull through, thankfully. And we'll see about the Veitchia joannis. I can't see what's happening with the spear because it's so dang tall...lol... I'm still pleasantly surprised at how well my Ptychosperma and Archontophoenix held up. With the warmer weather I thought I'd hit everything with a second dose of copper all over the crown and soaking the spear as much as possible, so did that this afternoon. Will also do a liquid feed this weekend. I think it would help. Good luck everyone and I will followup down the road when I know more...

Figured everyone could use some good news. Pritchardia thurstonii was able to weather the storm under coconut canopy and shielded from wind slightly by the lanai. It is opening the damaged leaf in the photo and the another spear is coming out. That said, we do have another front coming and that might finish it off. At least it is still in the game, though.

Ok I shall settle the score and start a on the potting bench thread to appease the palm gods. So it is as follows, on the potting bench you shall see what’s been growing and what reds to be potted up, freshly germinated to anything else that needs to be potted, it shall be gor reference as seedling identification. If anyone wants to identify a seedling, and also as documentation of what and how the plants are growing for the palm talk audience and for my own documentation!

I am aware that Joseph Rossi Lost most of his palms in the 2021 Freeze But does anyone know what happened to him he literally dropped off the face of the earth haven't heard anything about him in years. ! I'm assuming he just completely gave up on the palm hobby.

I'm in Savannah Ga and my lady palms got hit by our last freeze first time in 15 years, should I just cut the brown fronds off and hope for the best? I just joined today.

Maybe after this weekend's cold snap.

I would leave it until the first spike appears, for now just cover with a little medium. And dont overpot your seedlings, use small containers, or long deep not wide if the root is long.

Another winter bloomer just opening up. Very similar to the above 'Blc. Ahchung Ruby', this one has more yellow in its throat with a more compact bloom, and is called 'Rlc. Subprasert'. I think these 2 hybrids may even share a common parent as they are so similar in looks and performance. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

It's a real shame, so few people dig into the details that matter with palms, even further south, like here in San Antonio. Nurseries, big box stores, and subsequently people will just keep stocking and planting verities of palms that don't grow well here. The most common is robusta vs filifera. I would think people would have figured out by now that one is completely hardy here, while the other one isn't. I was just at the Rim and almost every single Washingtonia is totally burned, aside from a handful that are obviously filifera dominate. I remember reading a post of his that he went out to the desert in California to find the most pure non-hybridized filifera seeds. Maybe he could have single handedly turned the palm culture in Texas around. If only his farm was in RGV, or even here, rather than so far north in Texas.

For anyone wondering about Chrysalidocarpus basilongus, mine survived once again this year and has some spear movement, but was defoliated mostly even covered with a sweater. Ultimate low of 24-25 inside the sweater (it wasn't a great protection honestly) and the spear has moved about an inch since. Chrysalidocarpus titan had no cover on the spear and a leaf, and dead fronds on the rest, with no damage yet discernable. I'm impressed and surprised by that. Minimal damage on a similarly covered B alfredii on an exposed leaf. No losses yet, but on the fence for my spindles, bottle, adonidia (on purpose not cared for) and possibly my bucaneer if it keeps dealing with infection and likely decline disease. My losses were last year mostly but will add some this year, just hoping not the palms left. The forest had minimal to no frost, the front was open and hit harder on subsequent nights, including one unforcasted that did the most damage to a redneck leaf open to the sky (it's opposing leaf is fine, but it was all heavily covered in the 24 degree night and winds before). Chambeyronia are angry but should come back, and chrysalidocarpus lanceolata is another surprise good performer.

Because he doesn’t want to be associated with the business anymore . 5 years down the road he still has people like you seeking him out. He told me 4 months after the 2/21 freeze he wasnt going to waste any more time trying to salvage things. He may very well lurk on here, but most likely he got burned bad and wants to move on in life.

No floaters, seeds will be posted next available business day.

A cracker of a Chambeyronia hookerii. Kentiopsis oliviformis really starting to hold onto more leaves with a bit of age and attention. And finally a ptychosperma nicolai finally pushed through the ferms.

Good news! the new growth is coming up and its green so I'm just keeping it dry until its fully out and back to normal! 🤠

I want to be included in a palm society 😭✌️

Plant a manchineel tree there (Hippomane mancinella) and a arbour of deadly nightshade, see how they go bashing them about! 🪴

@kylecawazafla what @Stevetoad said! Don’t give up!

Nice Brazilian cut. I dug a Bizzy once about the same size and moved it to a different spot in my yard. It sulked for a long while and just when I was going to dig it up and toss it I noticed it had some new deformed growth. I left it alone and it started to look good. then it exploded and out grew my other two. I ended up having to cut it down a year or so ago because the leaves were landing on. my neighbors roof. So In my experience they can be dug ( and I did a lousy job digging) but they take a long time to recover. I posted about it a bunch of years ago.

After this year i don't care anymore I gave up on trying to grow mangos etc it does it dies. Honestly seeing how easy it freezes here and how early and late in the season it can freeze i reaky don't see what's keeping it from ever getting into the single digits or us having a big snowstorm. Where im from in Pennsylvania it was rare to get snow flurries before Thanksgiving. Like having a low below freezing isn't even that common before Thanksgiving but down here webhave a freeze in mid November. Up there this time of year it was hard ok get snowstorm to realy get snow to lay in the daytime cause of sun angle but down here it's gona get below freezing easy af. Just makes no sense to me. Basicaky it's possibly to freeze here 6 months out of the year I alwaysvassumed I had about 2 months to realy worry about and it turns out it can freeze pretty much anytime between October and March. Wild. Like ive been saying california or miami are the best places to grow cool stuff. It's wild to me in California palms seem to be way more cold hardy like stuff that takes 28 there is dead here at 28.

They prefer maiden sacrifices, but this is a close second 😂

They dislike transplanting or any root disturbance, the one you have there if you have to move it good luck and you will need a large solid root ball. My advice leave it alone odds on it will die if you move it.

Don't touch it! It will come back. Maybe give it some extra water when you can. If you try and move it, it's almost a guaranteed death sentence. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

My potting bench is the top of our trash cans ! Perfect height and size for my small projects . Harry It works!

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Hello all! My first post here in a long time...I was just in Corpus Christi over the weekend, and was pleased to see some cocos on North Padre Island still alive after last month's cold event. I was pleasantly surprised by most plants I saw in the area, I was expecting total carnage. Most strelitzia were undamaged on the island, which was surprising as well. Looks like the official low at CRP airport was around 26F/-3C, areas on N Padre were likely closer to the freezing point based on plant damage. Here are some pictures I took last Sunday, February 15.

Obviously, don't ever let those people come near your property again. They clearly have no clue what they're doing as it relates to CIDPs. I might even ask for a refund, or at least leave a bad review. Also, given that the dreaded South American palm weevil is making its way up to your area, some sort of annual, preventative foliar crown drench of a systemic insecticide would be wise. There are also traps you can get to help detect whether the weevils are in your area. You may want to apply an insecticide to the soil too.

Ill be below freezing for sure. Everything's pushing new growth. It's all going to be set back again.

Thank you. I think there was a scammer on here trying to sell palms but they don’t exist, and so I didn’t want others to get cought in that trap, thank you.

Heat lamps would be a fire hazard. Again, just want to restate, the smaller palm did just fine with the same protection.

I still have trackycarpus princeps popping up two years later so they take a while to germinate, even had them germinate on the potting in between potting time. The best part is more free plants. Richard

All air is dry at -5f. That is a fact, and the property of air. At -5f the dewpoint is also -5f or lower(dry,dry,dry). That said, Las Cruces had rain, freezing rain, and snow during that -5f event.

It would seem that when you get those cold snaps, it's dry cold air. Those Filiferas can certainly take a lot of cold in the dry form. I've seen them come back in Las Cruces, NM from -5 F.

From what I've been told Bismarckia are extremely intolerant to having their roots disturbed in anyway. I think this might be one of those palms that can't be moved, unless you can get ALL of the roots.

Install heat lamps. Use plenty to protect it from the cold. And frost protection netting. Try mounting them on four wooden posts in the ground, about an elbow's length from the palm. The heat from these lamps will be a great help. Install the lights along the entire length of the palm, from the trunk to the leaves. Spray all the leaves and part of the trunk with neem oil mixed with potassium soap. Apply a little to the bud. The low temperatures have affected your palm, making it more prone to fungal attacks and infections, which have also damaged its leaves. It was left weak after being transplanted to its new location.