I have been out for a few hours, but thank you Dean, for closing this thread. And since this thread is now closed there definitely won't be any discussion about what science is. We can all have different opinions about lots of things, including politics and religion to name two hot topics that won't be disccussed here on PalmTalk, but I have a strong hunch that the majority will understand what science is. And Ben, since it was your original post that caused this thread to veer away from what could have been an interesting discussion, let me just add that using a word like "Biblical" automatically adds a religious connotation. Like it or not. And I have never met a scientist who was under the impression that the earth is only "thousands of years old". Then again, we probably move in different circles!