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Chambeyronia macrocarpa 'Watermelon'

I wouldn’t say it’s dumb idea. We all want fast results. As far as the Bismarck I would show her a few in person (assuming you haven’t). Maybe she’s thinking of a brahea and doesn’t like those. But a massive, silver self cleaning Bismarck is a nice center piece. A sabal mauritiiformis would be a unique look too. Maybe don’t over think it. You’ll eventually end up like the rest of us and have a jungle anyway 🤣

A few more Chambeyronia survivors at Leu Gardens. Chambeyronia pyriformis

My wife does not like the blue, she likes the Mediterranean fan palms, but i'm not a fan. I think you're right. Getting large palms in boxes was a dumb idea. I wanted immediate results and paid the price. I ended up losing money and still ending up with nothing in the front.

Are these free? If so, you posted in the wrong section. If not, you are supposed to post a price per the forum rules: All palms/plants/seeds offered for sale must include a price and size/quantity. I assume from your wording (Buyer Removal, CAVEAT EMPTOR) that they are for sale. Seems like a tough sell. DIY dig and remove might be possible on the smallest stuff. The single Roebelenii could weigh 300 lbs or more depending on the rootball. But the big CIDPs will require a professional crew. That’s a lot of $ and risk just to move some palm weevil food into your yard. That one by the utility pole should be fun.

I think the madagascar highlands are seasonally dry and wet compared with one of the wettest areas in Hilo. Do bismarckia do well there? They are just 1500 feet above alfredii . Might be rocky soil is that is the site. I have seen bismarckia in miami in rocky limestone soil and they hated it. Thin trunks about half the typical diameter here. Alfredii are just about 2 decades in cultivation, they might do better on the west side of the big island.

I genuinely don't know. I think I made a big mistake buying a large palm. The 15 gallon palms I bought have done well. I think I may have drowned the palm by watering it so much. I have heavy clay and potentially a drainage issue.

Yep.. Big, ...but perfectly harmless ..and actually really good composters.. Who cares if they eat some fruit too. Because so many people freak out about them when seen locally in the Spring, Spadefoot Nursery in Tucson re posts a writeup they did about these guys to talk the fearful off their ledges. Turn up in the yard every so often this time of year up here as well. Know anyone w/ TX Sage in their gardens? ( Leucophyllum sps ) = not uncommon to find dozens / hundreds of Figeaters clamoring over the flowers when they bloom, ...here in AZ at least. Of the 12 sub species, not sure if CA and AZ share the same one or not. Difference between it and Japanese Beetle, ..which has only been observed a few times in CA ...so far at least.. As pointed out here👇, " May / June " bug = broad brush term for numerous native / some introduced / non -native ( ..to North America ) Beetle sps in several genus, many of which are common in CA. https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/94169-june-bugs-are-destroying-my-gutters/ FYI: Lined June Beetles ( Genus Polyphylla ) = the one that squeak when handled.. These dudes.. Great laugh when handed to folks w/ an unhealthy fear of bugs. Fear of bugs in general = Lyrics from Basket Case come to mind, Every time.

I think it's a combo of both the answers above. Looks healthy over all. It's just adjusting to its new home.

I think you'll be fine with almost all the archontophoenix maybe except purpurea. Our climates are similar and I have Purpurea, maxima, tuckeri, myolensis, Alexandra and cunninghamiana. all grow great except the parpurea which always looks a bit anemic and never colors up great for me. they do like lots of water. My one bit of advice no matter which one you pick would to buy one that has not started trunking yet. The trunks in pots are stunted and will be permanently deformed and you will have to cover up the ugly part of the trunk with air plants and orchids......not that im speaking form experience.... They are super fast so they will form a trunk in no time and it will look way nicer. I do like the idea of a big fat blue Bizzy too though if you're open to a fan palm.

Looks like you lost that palm because you didn’t drip irrigate the root ball and it dried out. What happens to these large boxed up palm specimens is that they repel water wants the root ball is dry and the water just goes into the surrounding wet soil. I’ve lost plants that way here in Hilo where it rains a ton. Once the rootball dries out the only thing that I can bring it back is to actually put a drip directly onto the root ball so the water can slowly penetrate into the tree. Florida gets such sporadic rainfall that you really gotta watch out for that drying effect especially in those Sandy soils. I would second the recommendation to stick with Alexander Palms because the regular king palm is not suited for the tropics. I have a lot of Alfredo palms in the ground and they all look ratty. My biggest regret in that regards is to not have chosen the fenestralis species of Madagascar, coconut palms. That one looks so much better and grows so much better in the tropics. I think the Alfredii likes cooler Highland conditions.

Sorry that happened to you. I vaguely remember seeing some pictures and you got hit pretty bad. It’s really not that bad here. I learned my lesson in terms of what not to plant. Most of the massive carnage came from Inga trees, also known as ice cream bean. I’ve spoken to others and they tell me it was also ice cream bean trees that cracked. The previous owner also planted a lot of cypress trees, which do not fare well in wind. I’ve been replacing them with cryptomeria and other typhoon resistant conifers from Japan. We’re up in the mountains, so the whole garden has a Jurassic conifer look to it and we want to maintain that. The only bummer is not being able to grow Klinki pines (araucaria hunsteini) which all came down as well. I feel a little overwhelmed with the amount of work involved in the cleanup, but I really didn’t lose any major palms. And now I have a lot more space to plant.

Well, after a couple more years the one “Hospita” out in the open has really taken off. It’s about 9 feet tall, and easily 1 foot in trunk diameter. Now has gnarly spines. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s mixed with one of the bigger Copernicias, or maybe not. It’s very robust and pics don’t do it justice. The other hospita, partially protected by other palms, it slower and less robust, but still doing fine.

I was particularly impressed by the size of the male cone on my Encephalartos munchii. It is the first time it coned and I don't recall seeing any munchii cones in person before. I had no perspective on what to expect until it began to stretch out and start dropping pollen. I decided to get out the tape measure just to see how tall it is. With the peduncle, the first cone is topping out at about 37" but the peduncle adds about 10" of that 37". Since my Encephalartos cerinus is also now yielding a little pollen and has likely achieved its full size, I measured it as well. This cone seems bigger than past, but now I will have a measurement as opposed to memory to gauge future cones on this species, or at least this plant. The cerinus is about 24" inclusive of the peduncle, which is about 4" tall.

What a beauty. Do you know where I can find good alexander kings in your area? Id rather drive down the 126 then the 405 lol

Mine has put on it's annual 2-3" of growth....

hey, i was just wondering if you ever found anyone who was selling the seeds at a reasonable price?, i love watching plants of all kinds grow and growing unique and carnivorous ones fascinate me (we have a poison garden you can visit here The Alnwick Garden The Poison Garden). If you ever did get some i'd chuck some money at you for postage.

I crack Jubaea seed before sprouting. Sometimes there are two or occasionally three separate viable seeds in one shell. In picture below you can see some half sphere seeds sprouting. If you didn’t crack them you wouldn’t know you really have twins. See upper left.

I just planted my first Ptychosperma. I had the same opinion as you , I thought it was much too tropical for my environment. Then I went down to @DoomsDave place in La Habra , very similar climate to mine , even closer to your climate. He had a beauty down there . I was so excited to learn I could grow them , if I get the right species . I came home with a juvenile Ptychosperma Sandereanum and planted it in our courtyard. It gets warm afternoon sun from about 12:30pm -about4pm depending on time of year. It is planted not far from the A. Alexandrae. It has been in the ground a couple of weeks and already opened a new frond. Harry I have hope this will be a great grower in my warm inland climate. The one Dave has is superb . Maybe partial shade out there where you are. If you go to Dave’s in La Habra , he has a great selection of palms that may work in warmer climates. He has mature specimens in the ground so you can see what they will look like , also a great knowledge of what will work for you. Edit- I will say , we water A LOT! I have fast draining soil and a sunny south facing lot.

Steve, you're not wrong, although the "traditional" june bug around here is somewhat smaller, and tan colored. That is the genus Phyllophaga. The fig beetle was always referred to as the "Japanese fig beetle", hence the confusion. I thought they were an import as well. But no, they're native, from the genus Cotinis. Both harmless and non-destructive. No need to call in Dale Gribble.

Dang! growing up here for 45 years we always called them June bugs and then later on Japanese beetles. I always assumed that they were introduced here. I never knew they were a native species. Time to get the sewing thread out and take one for a flight.

I can relate, I killed my first big container palm, $600, by handling it by the trunk. It was too heavy for me to plant gently without a bobcat and it had sensitive roots. We live and learn, and I do understand that palms in california are a lot more expensive than here, I lived there for 7 years. 54" rain a year will make them cheaper to grow here to a good box size. Most of us on palmtalk started out wanting that immediate impact. It is very rarely worth it for the faster growing species. With your heat you should be able to grow things quickly given enough water and some fertilizer. Remember that those Alexandre will need a lot more water out in the open like that compared with a bismarckia or alfredii. Wind dries things out much faster and if the roots can't take up enough water, you get brown leaves generally oldest first. When you plant a palm from a container it has small roots that have a limit for how much water they can take up. I would wait to plant those alexandre till it doesnt hit 85F any more. Over the winter it has a chance to grow roots before the hot weather tests those roots for how much water they can supply. At some point, watering more doesn't solve the problem of a small root system. For Alexandre, make the soil pretty rich in organics and perlite with y our clay. The perlite hold water and will prevent soil compaction which is often a cause of poor drainage. Deeper drainage gives deeper roots and they may give a much healthier tree in the inland heat.

I will concur with others. My A. Alexandrae was planted out at a 10” size , in full sun. It stabilized much faster than the Cunninghamiana . Both species do well here but I have a bit more coastal influence . These heat waves will come and go and only the oldest fronds show any damage . It has been here over 25 years , seen triple digit temps many times , cold into the low 40’s , and seems to love it here. The swollen base gives it a bit of interest as it ages . The silver underside to the leaves and dark green uppers would give a nice look to that area. Look for sun grown examples to plant . Harry This was a few years ago.

@MC Silver I'd guess it was grown in part shade in a greenhouse or under shade cloth at the nursery. The older fronds look very long, i.e. "etoliated" and stretching for sunlight. So when you put it in full sun the next fronds will be much shorter. It's hard to see for sure, but it looks like the top surfaces of the old petioles/rachis are sunburned yellow. If the fans on the old fronds are also getting burnt yellow/orange/red then it's definitely just sunburn. If so then it'll grow out of it towards the end of fall. A photo of the whole palm would help.

Does the soil still smell like rotting garbage? Has it started draining out of the "planting bowl" yet, or still mucky? The fact that it's even trying to open up a frond is remarkable. I've had palms recover from root rot, but it does take time. Realistically it'll have to grow a whole new set of roots, if they were severely rotted. If they were just drowning in water then it might take less time to recover.