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Honestly, we are better off in Sacramento than most of Florida, including many parts of South Florida away from the coast. I’m just dismayed constantly at how poorly everything non-native does in this state outside of the immediate coasts and microclimates. You just don’t see this level of cataclysm out west. As long as you have irrigation, things typically grow fairly well(with some exceptions). Towns are littered with beautiful plants and shrubs and extremely tall palms. But it’s heartbreaking to see all the money spent here going by the wayside, just losing all these beautiful phoenix palms on i4 is a tragedy for all of humanity.
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Going to take a day trip down to Jacksonville soon.
MarcusH replied to Laaz's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
Let us know how the Queen palms sailed through the freeze. If I remember it got down to the low 20s. -
Hit 34F this morning. Forecast was for 32F. Tonight is forecast to reach 26F. We will see. Tomorrow night is only 43F and that's actually right after sunset. Temp is then expected to creep upward close to 50F by sunrise Wednesday morning. Beyond that, I'll have to look over model data again later today but as of like 2 days ago there was little to no threat of freezing temps thru the first week of March.
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Like clockwork, NWS Melbourne changed their wording yesterday to 'models are trending colder' and 'increasing confidence of a freeze'. Wasn't a shock to me. When there are cold fronts and they show lows 5 to 7 days out, I subtract 3-6 degrees and then family/friends think I'm some weather guru when my forecast pans out. Lol
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New to being a plant mom… What kind of palm is this?
Fusca replied to RinnaPalm's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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Zone 10 Palms in the Orlando Area Mega Thread
Eric in Orlando replied to palmsOrl's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I have a 'Green Malayan' at my house in Altamonte Springs (north of Orlando). I'm in a cold pocket and wasn't planning on trying a coconut here. We have Great Danes and one of them liked to carry and chew on coconuts. My inlaws live in Jupiter so we would brink coconuts back and had a pile on the side of the house. One of them sprouted so I planted it in my banana patch. That was about 10 years ago. It would get some damage almost every year. This year it already had about 25% burn before the freeze hit. Its about 10ft tall with 3ft of clear trunk. I had 23F in my yard with the winds, 28F the 2nd night with frost. All the leaves are burned but the petioles are still green and a few leaflets stayed green. I cut the center leaves out last week in case rot tried to set in, spear was solid. With 3 days last week near 90F it is actually pushing new growth. I will be floored if it does regrow. -
So What Caught Your Eye Today?
wimmie replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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My other complicating factor is that I'm aging out. I need to make changes now that facilitate simpler upkeep. I do not intend to pay anyone to either make the changes or do the upkeep. $$$$ and preferences.
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I was in California for the 1990 freeze and remember it at a very young age. Then some other big ones at that time later on growing up out west, culminating in thunder snow in NM in 2010 and then I left. Now its here lol.
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Carve out the most protected spot in the yard as the tropical stuff and make the backbone cold tolerant everywhere else is my plan. Good thing about cold events is they show you where those spots are if your looking. I'm sure everyone is tired too by now and that doesn't help the outlook for the garden. Once things green up that will help brighten the mood too. My front yard now is all brown, but if I stop to think about each plant many will come right back, and those that don't won't be replaced. A big healthy blue agave sounds nice right about now lol.
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Most people in the world have no idea that cyclical climate patterns such as ocean circulation (e.g., PDO, AMO) and atmospheric shifts (e.g. NAO, La Niña) can persist for many years, even a decade. The alignment of these patterns has the Eastern US as the target of cold in the last several years. I remember the 90s transitioned to a very cold West. I was in Seattle late 90s/early 2000s and they had lows in the low 20s. News was telling people how to protect pipes and plants. I am also hopeful we are breaking this cycle but it is stubborn!
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Little virtual understory tour
wimmie replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Overhere in Holland, winter is coming to an end and so I am slowly bringing my palms in the garden again, especially Chamaerops humilis, Phoenix canariensis and dactylifera and Washingtonia robusta. The first Cycas revoluta is outside too as are Citrus aurantium myrtifolia and Citrus lemon. Fortunately, they all can cope with incidental frosty nights! -
A large Sabal minor var. Louisiana
Zone7Bpalmguy replied to Sabal_Louisiana's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
That's interesting, thanks for sharing. I have what was supposed to be a brazoria palm that is looking more like a louisiana. Mine has been a fast trunker too.- 1 reply
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Which is why I'm moving toward native plants. Mother nature just moved up the time schedule this year. I can't afford the irrigation and don't appreciate the yearly cycle of cold, drought and hurricanes. I have enough stress without adding needlessly to it. I enjoyed my tropical paradise while it lasted... but whaddya gonna do?
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I don't but you can view it on Google streetview, on the corner of Elm and College in Commerce. I used to travel thru there regularly years ago. Probably one of the best looking butias north of the fall line cities, in my opinion.
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New to being a plant mom… What kind of palm is this?
wimmie replied to RinnaPalm's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
In the seventies, when this palm was introduced in Holland as a houseplant, it was named Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, later on I was told to name it as Dypsis lutescens, but is it now named Chrysalidocarpus again????- 6 replies
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Little virtual understory tour
wimmie replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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Some of the powerful fronts and cold events in past decades were similar if you go back to the 80s and further. I'm hoping it's a cycle and this is the harsh portion, based partly on the native plants and geographic history of the area during the last ice age. The natives handle these events much better than exotics, so they had to be used to these sudden swings as they colonized and adapted (like palms as we keep the survivors' seeds). Hopefully this year is the last in the pattern, but it is really just a roll of the dice in the end. We need to create a shield that can be turned on to block the cold air when a front comes but this isn't Star Trek lol.
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2026 2026 Florida Palmageddon Observations and Damage Photo Thread
pj_orlando_z9b replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in FREEZE DAMAGE DATA
I have several types of cordylines and have mixed results. Like most other plants, cordylines that were protected from winds and under overhangs look untouched. Even the same plant looks totally different in some cases. Exposed looks bad, understory great. -
What happened to Texas Cold Hardy Palms (Joseph Rossi)
Harry’s Palms replied to PAPalmtrees's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
Yep , life moves along , things happen , and interests change . After losing some of my strength and mobility for the last 2+ years I dropped out of a couple of cycling forums . Now I spend most of my time in my garden with my palms and posting here . A sudden health issue or change can be personal and tough to talk about. My palms became close friends and I even started collecting more again after years of just letting things grow and not much attention due to my riding and surfing. I started riding again , my surfing is behind me now , but gardening is my thing , and shorter rides on my bike. The ebb and flow of life ! Harry -
Musa Basjoo or other large cold hardy aggressive bananas.
5am replied to ZPalms's topic in Palms/Plants/Seeds Wanted
Sounds about right. I ordered 30 baby palms from Florida while the southern US had good temperature, but USPS' route took them first to Wisconsin, so they died. I will not make any more assumptions about shipping route. -
Musa Basjoo or other large cold hardy aggressive bananas.
5am replied to ZPalms's topic in Palms/Plants/Seeds Wanted
If you're still looking in a few months I will surely have some fast growers later this year. Since November I've had 7 or 8 stalks set fruit at about 7ft height so I believe they are dwarf cavendish. I'll be relocating some, and bananas tend to pup when the corm gets nicked by a shovel so I'm expecting extras. I can't call them cold hardy, though. The leaves die completely at the slightest freeze although the stems survived 2 nights at 28F, even the little ones. -
Little virtual understory tour
Harry’s Palms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Nice walk through the garden . Lots to see there . Many years ago there was a place we visited in Maui that had a small nursery and a botanical garden that was huge . For a small fee you could take a self guided tour , most of the plants were well labeled . The guy seemed to be doing pretty good business . The small palms came with nematode certs so they could be shipped or brought back to the mainland. He wasn’t getting rich but he did ok. Harry -
2026 2026 Florida Palmageddon Observations and Damage Photo Thread
idontknowhatnametuse replied to idontknowhatnametuse's topic in FREEZE DAMAGE DATA
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How bad was the freeze in Florida?
Harry’s Palms replied to rprimbs's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Even out west here things are off , weather wise. It has been the windiest year in memory , very warm January and into February until this last set of storms . So far , the coldest here was 40f so no frost or deep cold snap. Our normal rainfall has been doubled and storms have been arriving with high winds. You folks out east have had it rough with the cold . I can’t imagine the damage cold like that could do to a tropical garden. Harry
