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They're faster than decipiens. I'm in deep South Texas near Brownsville and it's growing great in our high heat and humidity. There's several SoCal guys growing both elegans and nucele with great success. As far as cold, there's a guy in zone 9a Houston growing one with minimal winter protection. @JEFF IN MODESTO grew an awesome decipiens that was rehomed a year or so ago (grew too close to his house). They're a tough grow for most of us east of CA but if you go that route I would buy in person.

Oh. Lol well this one is located in one of the poorest counties in the poorest state in the country so we're probably the worst of the worst.

funny thing, I was driving around midtown the other day and seen 3 small dypsis decipians growing in someones front yard, I wish I saved the address so I could ask where they got them from!

i searched it up they do look pretty simlar to dypsis decipiens, are they as slow growing? also where are you located because some people have recommended me some palms that grow in zone 9b florida but wont out in our zone 9b

I need to go visit and see the inventory next spring!!

Tier = Property Value Meaning the stores located near high property values and high income residences will have more premium planting material and broader selections. Stores in major metro's near high demand real estate are highest tier. Lower tier are in outlying cities, or lower income area's. Stores near the coast or nearest to beachfront or row 3 properties also tend to be high tier. That's basically it unless you happen to work in corporate planning for BB stores.

Ditto to the advice from my friend in Mesa, even after seeing the mix. The higher your planter, and better draining your planter mix, the less likely your roots will be sitting in the soggy native soil during your wet season.

How about Cyphophoenix elegans? It's reportedly pretty hardy to cold - I planted mine on Palm Sunday this year. I don't think anyone would ship Dypsis decipiens except maybe Jungle Music - it's risky.

@user.10394059 LOOK! https://www.goldengatepalms.com/palms

ill ask if palm island can ship some out here, if i get that it leaves 2 more spits for palms what else can grow out here?

My brother used to live in Sacramento but I don't know the area well. Realistically, you'd be looking at a very small sized Dypsis decipiens as you're unlikely to find a large plant (and it would be very expensive). The good thing about that is you might be able to call around the reputable SoCal nurseries and get one shipped to you. You could also try calling Palm Island in Vacaville to see if they have or can get this plant. That's the closest place I can think of.

Are those my seeds? If so they are waggyxfortunei meaning the waggy is the female. Anyway a community pot outside works well with just normal potting soil. Maybe @teddytn can chime in on easiest method

ill be on the lookout if I go to socal anytime soon then!

Oh I know they get huge - there used to be some huge ones around the corner from my apartment. I tried to find them on Google Streetview, they were flowering in 2023 when I left and they're obvs gone now and the next earliest picture is from 2022 when they were relatively smaller. And they survived Palmageddon in 2021. I figured 3 bricks high in mostly rock will keep them alive and from getting too soggy. It's rockier than it looks.

@user.10394059 probably in SoCal for sure...i want a Manambe and Triangle palm again.

Much of what you have stated is correct. No need for heat as such. These will germination without too much fuss, and keep them out of direct sun and they'll be fine.

Anyone have a Royal palm heat/cold tolerance list on here or old post...I'm currently wanting King palm/Royal looking crown shafted palms. I need a good challenge here in Central California with 110 temps in summer and winter lows in 25-30 degree temps...Greatly appreciated!!!

do you know any speciality nursury near sacramento?

Put a trampoline under it so if it falls it can just bounce back up

i wanted a dypsis decipiens but theyre so hard to find!!, I havent seen any foxtails come up at stores but that foxtail in the picture has survived for 4 years without any protection on a west facing wall

No "steak" needed, just a stake.

Wodyetia bifurcata show up in big box stores here in N Cal but they're marginal at best. You could try if you want to push. Minimum temps and frost are bigger issues for this palm than the dry heat. You said you want a fast palm, but if you're willing to tolerate the slow growth, Dypsis decipiens would be a really special palm that would be more likely to survive and thrive. It's slow and you'll have to go to a specialty nursery to find one, but it's got everything else going for it. Could be worth it if you plan to stay at your property long term.

Where to start...?🤔 Probably should splurge for 2 more bricks from Lowe's at .68 cents each to raise the bed 3 full bricks high to keep the growing medium contained without washing out through holes of missing bricks. Agaves have relatively compact root systems, so the square is big enough, but be aware they will just rot in constantly wet medium. You also may not be aware of how big this species actually gets if it survives in your area. In the desert,they will fill a 5x5x5 area in less than 5 years. They do transplant easily though if it outgrows the area, but are also a LOT heavier than you would expect for their size. The spiny leaves don't make the job any easier if a move is required. Here's an original planting of 3 agaves in my neighborhood that definitely were planted less than 5 years ago to better illustrate their size. They literally grow like weeds when they're happy.👍 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Hand rubbing or artist paint brush daily observation! But just start to do your magic any chance you get to! Regardless of what you see happening but you will know definitely when it happens.

ive already considered the water needs and have had a irrigation system installed, ive seen a foxtail at a shopping mall do you think if I water and fertilize them heavy foxtails will work out here?