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2 Years Growth Beccariophoenix Alfredii Orlando Florida


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This is the palm they're referring to as "the hardy Coconut palm" correct? Looks cool man!

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I need to have words with mine. Maybe show these pictures to it while playing Eye of the Tiger..

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On 10/17/2023 at 6:43 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

I need to have words with mine.

I have noticed atleast from the few I have, they hate potted life. Once in the ground they will be much happier. 

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Looks like you planted deep.   Let us know if this helped mitigate the “wobble” issue that a lot of us experienced with these at young ages.  These can get quite wobbly early on in Florida tropical winds.  

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13 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

I have noticed atleast from the few I have, they hate potted life. Once in the ground they will be much happier. 

I guess I need to remember it was a strap leaf last summer. Never a bad time for Eye of the Tiger though. 

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Love it. Wish they were more available at a reasonable price for larger size or faster growing. I would do one and have a perfect spot but really don’t have 10yrs to get it to size in my landscape. 

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On 10/20/2023 at 1:16 AM, Looking Glass said:

Looks like you planted deep.   Let us know if this helped mitigate the “wobble” issue that a lot of us experienced with these at young ages.  These can get quite wobbly early on in Florida tropical winds.  

I did plant them a little deep because of the wobble. There is no trunk rot at all and they are sturdy. 
In another 2 years we will know once the trunk starts to show. 

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1 hour ago, PlantDaddy said:

They are $150 for 2-3year olds here in Florida 

 

they’re selling bulk $25 pups here as well

Wow they are nice, so jealous they grow so well there. Is it because they grow so well that they have a bigger price tag. They must be pretty tall? Actually how tall are they at 3 years? Sorry I live in the north. If we pay for a tree here It's potted or small lol! 

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2 hours ago, PlantDaddy said:

I did plant them a little deep because of the wobble. There is no trunk rot at all and they are sturdy. 
In another 2 years we will know once the trunk starts to show. 

If they aren’t wobbly at that size, you did well.   I raised mine from 1g bifid to about 7 feet tall, but it didn’t do well in the wind here.  It grew nicely, but was always tipping one way or the other, without ever having seen anything close to a hurricane.  I did end up removing it, and replacing with three Pseudophoenix Sargentii.  I often wonder if it would have done better planted 6-8 inches deeper.  Yours look great.  That fence will help til they fatten up too.  
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7 hours ago, Looking Glass said:

If they aren’t wobbly at that size, you did well.   I raised mine from 1g bifid to about 7 feet tall, but it didn’t do well in the wind here.  It grew nicely, but was always tipping one way or the other, without ever having seen anything close to a hurricane.  I did end up removing it, and replacing with three Pseudophoenix Sargentii.  I often wonder if it would have done better planted 6-8 inches deeper.  Yours look great.  That fence will help til they fatten up too.  
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That last image shows what I think meets the definition of a perfectly grown Alfie. I'm not trying to brag, but mine looks astonishingly similar. I can't post an image of mine, due to my overgrown "jungle" making it nearly impossible, but I wish I could.

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I have been looking to line my driveway with a tropical palm.  

I was deciding between royals, Beccariophoenix alfredii, and bangalow palms, and maybe canary island date. 

I think I will chose the beccariophoenix for its tropical look and massive size. 

I have seen one with 6 feet of trunk and it is thick as hell. its at least 25 feet wide with the branches

I am planning to put 20 of them on each side of my driveway and have a palm lined road I can drive on.  Would you say they grow fast? I don't wanna pay $1000 per tree but want my landscape to look mature in a few years

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1 hour ago, coco305 said:

I have been looking to line my driveway with a tropical palm.  

I was deciding between royals, Beccariophoenix alfredii, and bangalow palms, and maybe canary island date. 

I think I will chose the beccariophoenix for its tropical look and massive size. 

I have seen one with 6 feet of trunk and it is thick as hell. its at least 25 feet wide with the branches

I am planning to put 20 of them on each side of my driveway and have a palm lined road I can drive on.  Would you say they grow fast? I don't wanna pay $1000 per tree but want my landscape to look mature in a few years

Why not get a coconut or two if you live in Naples? The beccariophoenix is not a true substitute for a coconut palm. It grows very slowly and takes up a ton of space. 

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2 hours ago, coco305 said:

I have been looking to line my driveway with a tropical palm.  

I was deciding between royals, Beccariophoenix alfredii, and bangalow palms, and maybe canary island date. 

I think I will chose the beccariophoenix for its tropical look and massive size. 

I have seen one with 6 feet of trunk and it is thick as hell. its at least 25 feet wide with the branches

I am planning to put 20 of them on each side of my driveway and have a palm lined road I can drive on.  Would you say they grow fast? I don't wanna pay $1000 per tree but want my landscape to look mature in a few years

I wouldn't say that they grow fast...  I think most people actually think they grow rather slowly.   If you got them small, they might take 10 years to have a short trunk.  And they don't handle heavy winds well when young.     

You might want to consider many other varieties to get the effect you are looking for.   Depending on what you are after, rows of perfectly lined mono-palms can look a bit sterile and unnatural. Perhaps a variety of palms and tropical shrubs might look better.   Having a variety also has the benefit that a single disease or pest won't wipe them all out, or that if you lose a couple, it won't create akward,weird holes in the future.   Consider this set up from a pic I found online.  10/10!  Very nice, natural looking, but still manicured....  Of course it takes years of tending and growth, but as the old saying goes, "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago....  The second best time, is today."   You could still have a couple Alfis mixed in if you like their look.  Whoever did this really knew what they were doing and tended the place with a lot of effort and love.   The reward....  

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22 minutes ago, FlaPalmLover said:

Why not get a coconut or two if you live in Naples? The beccariophoenix is not a true substitute for a coconut palm. It grows very slowly and takes up a ton of space. 

Coconuts are pretty easy palms as you hit 10B+.   So easy, and rather fast, that they are everywhere in every single yard and on every roadway.   They become a common, neglected regular yard tree sold by the hundreds at Walmart and Home Depot.   They also become a bit high maintenance with the "nuts" part.  I think that's why a lot of enthusiasts down south omit them entirely.     

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36 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

I wouldn't say that they grow fast...  I think most people actually think they grow rather slowly.   If you got them small, they might take 10 years to have a short trunk.  And they don't handle heavy winds well when young.     

You might want to consider many other varieties to get the effect you are looking for.   Depending on what you are after, rows of perfectly lined mono-palms can look a bit sterile and unnatural. Perhaps a variety of palms and tropical shrubs might look better.   Having a variety also has the benefit that a single disease or pest won't wipe them all out, or that if you lose a couple, it won't create akward,weird holes in the future.   Consider this set up from a pic I found online.  10/10!  Very nice, natural looking, but still manicured....  Of course it takes years of tending and growth, but as the old saying goes, "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago....  The second best time, is today."   You could still have a couple Alfis mixed in if you like their look.  Whoever did this really knew what they were doing and tended the place with a lot of effort and love.   The reward....  

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Coconuts are pretty easy palms as you hit 10B+.   So easy, and rather fast, that they are everywhere in every single yard and on every roadway.   They become a common, neglected regular yard tree sold by the hundreds at Walmart and Home Depot.   They also become a bit high maintenance with the "nuts" part.  I think that's why a lot of enthusiasts down south omit them entirely.     

Yeah, whoever did that did a great job. Colors textures and heights, very nice!

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41 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

I wouldn't say that they grow fast...  I think most people actually think they grow rather slowly.   If you got them small, they might take 10 years to have a short trunk.  And they don't handle heavy winds well when young.     

You might want to consider many other varieties to get the effect you are looking for.   Depending on what you are after, rows of perfectly lined mono-palms can look a bit sterile and unnatural. Perhaps a variety of palms and tropical shrubs might look better.   Having a variety also has the benefit that a single disease or pest won't wipe them all out, or that if you lose a couple, it won't create akward,weird holes in the future.   Consider this set up from a pic I found online.  10/10!  Very nice, natural looking, but still manicured....  Of course it takes years of tending and growth, but as the old saying goes, "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago....  The second best time, is today."   You could still have a couple Alfis mixed in if you like their look.  Whoever did this really knew what they were doing and tended the place with a lot of effort and love.   The reward....  

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Coconuts are pretty easy palms as you hit 10B+.   So easy, and rather fast, that they are everywhere in every single yard and on every roadway.   They become a common, neglected regular yard tree sold by the hundreds at Walmart and Home Depot.   They also become a bit high maintenance with the "nuts" part.  I think that's why a lot of enthusiasts down south omit them entirely.     

wow your house looks amazing! love those royals

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32 minutes ago, coco305 said:

wow your house looks amazing! love those royals

Not my house, it’s just an inspirational pic I found surfing around for ideas.  I have a few of these pinned for different favorite looks I found, some for the pool area, the side yard, the walkway, the back….   I like this one for the use of the native saw palmetto, the smart hight placement further back, the various pinnate and palmate palms, the silvers, the shrub edging, it’s quite a job.  Likely took many years.  

I like how it’s a more natural look overall too, rather than the monoculture golf course set up.   

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