Labeled Germination

[Pal Meir]

In the past I  have stolen from other Palmtalkers  many pics of germinating seeds. In this thread I present my stolen goods to the palmtalking public, asking for forgiveness …

#1: From Adonidia to Chamaedorea:

[Pal Meir]

#2: From Coccothrinax to Jubaeopsis

[Pal Meir]

#3: From Licuala to Syagrus itapebiensis

[Pal Meir]

#4: From Syagrus sancona to Wodyetia

Please forgive my sins!

[Pal Meir]

The photos were stolen from:
@Bananengeknl
@caixeta
@Jos Mannaart
@Kai
@knell
@Mike Evans
@Mohsen
@palmfriend
@Pip
and myself

[Kai]

Pondering weather to forgive or not... 

I know! Just send me a bag of grabdecor and all is forgiven! 

Just kidding.

Oh and Pal, thanks to your recipe my 3 Syagrus insigne are thriving again!

[Frond of Palms]

I don’t care that you use others photographs…your posts have been very informative and inspirational to me…keep up the good work!

[Pal Meir]

49 minutes ago, Kai said:

Pondering weather to forgive or not... 

I know! Just send me a bag of grabdecor and all is forgiven! 

Just kidding.

Oh and Pal, thanks to your recipe my 3 Syagrus insigne are thriving again!

Thank you so much for your mercy, Kai! And I’m glad to hear that your L. insigne made it!

And of my beloved Cocos weddelliana  I’ll add 2 more photos which are not stolen but honestly taken by myself:

[Kai]

You're welcome Pal!

Is that a mixture of cocopeat and seramis for the wedding palm seedling?

[Pal Meir]

16 minutes ago, Kai said:

You're welcome Pal!

Is that a mixture of cocopeat and seramis for the wedding palm seedling?

As the seedling was planted in a small 8x9cm clay pot I added also Kokohum: 3/5 pine bark + 1/5 Seramis + 1/5 Kokohum. In case of plastic pots I wouldn’t add it.

[palmfriend]

Forgiven!

I am glad that one of my photos - or at least a part of it - was chosen!

Besides it is very interesting to see how the germinating/root developing progress varies from species to species!

Thank you very much for summarizing -

best regards

 

[Josh-O]

excellent thread Pal

I really like how you put text next to the seedlings showing each part of the germination that is taking place.

 

[Pal Meir]

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL 

… and I did it again: Carpoxylon macrospermum stolen from @Sir Oxylon, Dypsis plumosa from @knell, Syagrus schizophylla x romanzoffiana from @Kai, and 2 Syagrus itapebiensis from Pal Meir , oops, that’s myself …

[Kris]

Beautiful visuals..I wish to link this thread to  some of my germination posts.

Love,

Kris.

Edited June 27, 2016 by Kris

[Kai]

Something more to play with Pal.

I love this thread!!

[Mohsen]

Fully forgiven , i never imagine that I could be happy whike my things are stolen but I am now

great job Pal, very informative and inspiring ...

[Pal Meir]

50 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Fully forgiven , i never imagine that I could be happy whike my things are stolen but I am now

great job Pal, very informative and inspiring ...

Thank you for your mercy!

Today I can present four labeled germinations which are not stolen, but a kind donation from @Kai which I could play with:

Allagoptera leucocalyx, Polyandrococos pectinata, Syagrus botryophora, and Syagrus (Lytocaryum) hoehnei

 

[Kai]

Thank you Pal, of course a littlebit in my own interest as well as these very informative pictures will be added to my palmy archive.

All these seedlings are now safely potted up in Pal's famous seramis mix and their roots have been comforted a bit with "palmbooster". Time will tell if the effects will turn out the same as for Pal's wonderfull L. insignes.

[jardinierpalmiertrat]

thanks you for this post, it's very interesting!!!

[Pal Meir]

Here the newest series of ±stolen labeled germination: Syagrus smithii, Syagrus microphylla (both stolen from @caixeta), and Syagrus (Lytocaryum) hoehnei (germinated by @Kai)

[Kris]

Nice 

[PalmTreeDude]

Hey! This forum is after all for gathering and sharing information about palms!

[Pal Meir]

Another Allagoptera caudescens (former Polyandrococos pectinata), germinated by @Kai; the germination type is between »nearly adjacent« and »remote-tubular«:

[Pal Meir]

Nearly adjacent germination of Nannorrhops ritchiana, stolen from @GoatLockerGuns:

[Pal Meir]

Three further germinations with attached labels: Medemia argun from @Josh-O, Nephrosperma van-houtteanum from @Mohsen, and Lytocaryum weddellianum with exceptionally strong roots:

[CLINODAVE]

Great pics and useful information.  I am preparing to send Pigafetta seed to a friend in another country and I am planning to remove the outer parts of the "fruit" before presenting the seeds to the agriculture reps in order to obtain the phytosanitary certificate.  Is it your experience to remove the outer covering before germinating the seed?

[Pal Meir]

25 minutes ago, CLINODAVE said:

Great pics and useful information.  I am preparing to send Pigafetta seed to a friend in another country and I am planning to remove the outer parts of the "fruit" before presenting the seeds to the agriculture reps in order to obtain the phytosanitary certificate.  Is it your experience to remove the outer covering before germinating the seed?

If you ship seeds to another country you should in any case remove the pulp because of customs restrictions (quarantine etc.). — In other cases it depends on the kind of seeds (or palm species) and the location (±tropical etc.) you are living. To avoid the seeds getting mouldy it may be safer in special cases to remove the pulp. — As a concrete example I had removed all remnants of the pulp when germinating Lytocaryum itapebiense seeds.

[CLINODAVE]

46 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

If you ship seeds to another country you should in any case remove the pulp because of customs restrictions (quarantine etc.). — In other cases it depends on the kind of seeds (or palm species) and the location (±tropical etc.) you are living. To avoid the seeds getting mouldy it may be safer in special cases to remove the pulp. — As a concrete example I had removed all remnants of the pulp when germinating Lytocaryum itapebiense seeds.

 Big mahalo for the info!

 

[Pal Meir]

Germinated Areca triandra, Pelagodoxa henryana, Syagrus comosa, Syagrus harleyi stolen from @Mohsen , @John in Andalucia , and @caixeta :

[Pal Meir]

A spiny seedling of Acrocomia totai with an unusual cotyledonary sheath, shaped like an egg, stolen from @TexasColdHardyPalms :

[Pal Meir]

Another couple of germinated & labelled seeds, this time stolen  from @caixeta, @Kris, @PalmTreeDude, and @Stethoscope:

[Pal Meir]

Syagrus ruschiana, germinated by @Kai:

[Pal Meir]

And here you can see the first published and documented labelled germination of the new species Lytocaryum batavum MEIR 2017 , which is endemic to the Netherlands, Latin “Batavia”, and in contrast to the very similar looking Lytocaryum weddellianum a REMOTE-ligular germinator: 

[Pal Meir]

An examination of my other photos makes me come to a different conclusion: The new  species Lytocaryum batavum appears to be a REMOTE-TUBULAR germinator as most Syagrus spp; cf. also Noblick 2017: 10.

[Pal Meir]

For comparison a pic of Lytocaryum insigne = Syagrus insignis which was mentioned by Noblick (2017: 10) as example for a Syagrus sp. with adjacent-ligular germination:

[Pal Meir]

The not very "remote" germination of Rhapis cochinchinensis / laosensis:

The "adjacent-ligular" germination of most Lytocaryum weddellianum (esp. L batavum ) ist much more remote.

[Pal Meir]

Looking more like (nearly) "Adjacent-ligular Germination"than "Remote-tubular Germination"(Genera Palmarum for Rhapis excelsa): 

[Pal Meir]

(Nearly) Adjacent-ligular Germination or Remote-ligular Germination, that is the question …  But what it is not is "Remote-tubular Germination".

[Pal Meir]

A really "Adjacent-ligular Germination": Cocos nucifera, two coconuts stolen from @GottmitAlex and @kutsalangemon: 

[Pal Meir]

And once more Rhapis laosensis: