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Someone has managed to cross SyagrusXbutia?

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Hi everyone

We know that crossing ButiaXSyagrus is a fact. But "Someone has been managed to cross SyagrusXbutia?".

Today I picked up from the first two seeds SyagrusXbutia eriospatha, pollinated last year. They spent the winter in the tree, and now take the colour orange.

thanks

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I crossed my queen palms with S.schyzophilla. Had a big amount of good looking fruits and seeds ...but they don´t germinate:mrlooney: :blink:

There are also fruits maturing from crosses with S.glaucescens and with S. botriophora.

The cross with Cocos nucifera wasn´t succesfull. All the flowers aborted.

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I crossed my queen palms with S.schyzophilla. Had a big amount of good looking fruits and seeds ...but they don´t germinate :mrlooney::blink:

There are also fruits maturing from crosses with S.glaucescens and with S. botriophora.

The cross with Cocos nucifera wasn´t succesfull. All the flowers aborted.

Hi Alberto

S. romanzoffianaXS.schyzophilla. This plant is very interesting, this crossing should gain rapid growth, and a little bit of resistance to the cold. Do you have photos of they, even they are small?.

I think the cross with cocos only results in 1 of every million.

Thanks

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I crossed my queen palms with S.schyzophilla. Had a big amount of good looking fruits and seeds ...but they don´t germinate :mrlooney::blink:

There are also fruits maturing from crosses with S.glaucescens and with S. botriophora.

The cross with Cocos nucifera wasn´t succesfull. All the flowers aborted.

Hi Alberto

S. romanzoffianaXS.schyzophilla. This plant is very interesting, this crossing should gain rapid growth, and a little bit of resistance to the cold. Do you have photos of they, even they are small?.

Thanks

Yes,but the seeds refuse to germinate..................

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I found this old thread, where there are real beauties ... Now that I've seen them... I´ll play my life to get the crossing. I have about 30 seeds and I´ll put them to germinate very soon.

http://www.palmtalk....showtopic=22060

Syagrus x Butia...

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this hybrid is not very popular, surely the seeds are sterile

GIUSEPPE

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this hybrid is not very popular, surely the seeds are sterile

I ´ve a hunch that any seed can germinate.

Lately I'm having no luck with the hybridizations.

I have germinated a few Butia paraguayensisXSyagrus romanzoffiana, new for me. I can´t wait to see how they develop.

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Mauser I'd say definitely the seeds f2 are sterile ,but your seeds f1 are fertile !good germination !

GIUSEPPE

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Mauser I'd say definitely the seeds f2 are sterile ,but your seeds f1 are fertile !good germination !

I hope that some may be fertile, they are F1.

It´s possible that some F2 seeds can germinate, all depends of the pollen that has been used, it is difficult but not impossible.

Regards

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Hi everyone

We know that crossing ButiaXSyagrus is a fact. But "Someone has been managed to cross SyagrusXbutia?".

Today I picked up from the first two seeds SyagrusXbutia eriospatha, pollinated last year. They spent the winter in the tree, and now take the colour orange.

thanks

Isn't SxB how it always happens? I thought crossing BxS (with Syagrus as a mother) was not a viable thing to do

I did the reverse XButyagrus many years ago, but it didn't survive. Occasionally we see a reverse XButyagrus; they are quite rare. The trunks are quite characteristic as shown. Scott's in Tampa is quite a good example.

Best Wishes,

merrill

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I did the reverse XButyagrus many years ago, but it didn't survive. Occasionally we see a reverse XButyagrus; they are quite rare. The trunks are quite characteristic as shown. Scott's in Tampa is quite a good example.

Best Wishes,

merrill

I am germinating 31 seeds of SyagrusXButia eriospatha. I hope germinated something. This year I´ll doing SyagrusXbutia yatai and a spathe SyagrusXjubaea, only this year, because the next year the inflorescence will be very high and dangerous to work on they.

Also, now have germinating Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis (identified by Nigel) XSyagrus and they have very good looking with only a leaf, there's even... one triple, and several Doubles.

regards

Excuse my English, I speak better than I write

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I did the reverse XButyagrus many years ago, but it didn't survive. Occasionally we see a reverse XButyagrus; they are quite rare. The trunks are quite characteristic as shown. Scott's in Tampa is quite a good example.

Best Wishes,

merrill

I am germinating 31 seeds of SyagrusXButia eriospatha. I hope germinated something. This year I´ll doing SyagrusXbutia yatai and a spathe SyagrusXjubaea, only this year, because the next year the inflorescence will be very high and dangerous to work on they.

Also, now have germinating Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis (identified by Nigel) XSyagrus and they have very good looking with only a leaf, there's even... one triple, and several Doubles.

regards

Excuse my English, I speak better than I write

Mauser:

You have our very best wishes with the interesting Butia hybrids with which you are working!

Best Wishes,

merrill

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Mauser:

You have our very best wishes with the interesting Butia hybrids with which you are working!

Best Wishes,

merrill

Dear teacher, thank you very much. :rolleyes:

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Hi everyone

We know that crossing ButiaXSyagrus is a fact. But "Someone has been managed to cross SyagrusXbutia?".

Today I picked up from the first two seeds SyagrusXbutia eriospatha, pollinated last year. They spent the winter in the tree, and now take the colour orange.

thanks

Isn't SxB how it always happens? I thought crossing BxS (with Syagrus as a mother) was not a viable thing to do

SxB is with syagrus as the mother. The mother plant is always listed first in a cross. The common one is BxS with Butia as the mother.

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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SxB is with syagrus as the mother. The mother plant is always listed first in a cross. The common one is BxS with Butia as the mother.

-Krishna

Syagrus rom silver queen XButia eriospatha.

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Syagrus rom S.Q. X Butia eriospatha... seeds

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Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis(plant) was crossed with (XSyagrus rom silver queen)

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Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis (XSyagrus rom S.Q.)..seedlings

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Mauser, I am fascinated by the seed shape of those qxb !!!!!!!

They are beaked !! Is this normal for this queen or is this the influence of butia pollen ?

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

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Mauser, I am fascinated by the seed shape of those qxb !!!!!!!

They are beaked !! Is this normal for this queen or is this the influence of butia pollen ?

I don´t know, it was the first time in set fruit

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If it is the normal seed shape that is no syagrus from this region,because the seeds here are rounded.

But of course if the seed is influenced by the butia pollen that is really very interesting.

If it is a silver queen it should have the rounded seed type.

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

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If it is the normal seed shape that is no syagrus from this region,because the seeds here are rounded.

But of course if the seed is influenced by the butia pollen that is really very interesting.

If it is a silver queen it should have the rounded seed type.

I bought it as silver queen. All seeds have a beak, but some seeds lost it, after a strong brushing.

Where do you think this Syagrus is from? ...

The S.bonsall, has the beak?

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I bought it as silver queen. All seeds have a beak, but some seeds lost it, after a strong brushing.

Where do you think this Syagrus is from? ...

The S.bonsall, has the beak?

I dont know , I never saw a syagrus rom seed that shape ! Thats why I thought it might be the butia influence !

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

Gentlemen:

I must commend all of you gentlemen for your discoveries amongst the Butia. Now that you clearly have two lines of cold hardy Queen, please to everyones benefit cross the two isolated coldhardy Queens.

Best Wishes,

merrill

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.SYAGRUS MOTHER..... It's bigger, than it may seem

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SxB is with syagrus as the mother. The mother plant is always listed first in a cross. The common one is BxS with Butia as the mother.

-Krishna

Syagrus rom silver queen XButia eriospatha.

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Syagrus rom S.Q. X Butia eriospatha... seeds

110811057.jpg

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Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis(plant) was crossed with (XSyagrus rom silver queen)

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Butia eriospathaXButia catarinensis (XSyagrus rom S.Q.)..seedlings

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any updates on these?

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