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After several revisions, I’m excited to share my ongoing PDF guide to cold hardy palms. This has been a long-term project and will continue to evolve as I learn more and gather new experiences. Feel free to share it anywhere by posting the link to the document — that will always point to the latest version for when I update. I am still working on some more pages in time. I truly appreciate all the support, knowledge, and friendships from this forum over the years. My goal has always been simple, help others enjoy and succeed in this hobby as much as I have. Hopefully this information will especially help others new to the hobby. While the design is AI assisted, all photos and text dictation are from my experiences. While I am aware there are a few errors still, let me know what you think TNTropics Cold Hardy Palm Guide https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w9-43MjGhgyQyqgVeQoWXU69GvRGLpdU/view?usp=sharing8 points
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39F was my low. Plants are probably just as tired of this as the rest of us. 1 more night. As far as why all of FL is cold, it's the persistent flow of air directly from Canada to FL. The high pressure over the 4 corners is never good for FL and it has not moved much of 2026. West ridge is a good indicator of cold nights in FL. The drought isn't helping either. Like the desert, dry ground cools much faster. Basically this has been a perfect storm but in the wrong way.6 points
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I enjoy researching just about anything to do with plants, and I never come out of multiple hours of researching without having learned at least something that I didn't already know. I know I'm not nearly as active as I use to be here, but that's just part of having a full time job. The rest of my time goes towards taking care of the garden, with not much time left over to use here. I more so just lurk in the background most of the time, but I try to chime in periodically, especially in the Florida winter thread. As far as social media goes, all I use is X/Twitter. People may not like the guy that owns it, and there's a lot of toxicity on that platform, but is the toxicity really any different than other big name platforms? I don't think it is. I have my feed set up in a way where I only see the important stuff, I don't make it a point to find toxic spaces. With that being said, my X/Twitter experience is almost always good. I don't like Facebook, and I wont touch Instagram or TikTok with a 10 ft pole. So that's my review on those.5 points
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Palms here are killed by lightning a lot, hence no tall washingtonias even in dry soil areas like spring Hill. Then there is the summer heat and humidity and diseases, you can't add more "dry" during heavy rain periods, whearas you can add more water when there is a drought. Many homes are newer, hurricanes, etc. There are a lot of potential reasons for less impressive palms than other places, but cold is a major one for sure. I am leaving out natives of course.5 points
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Don't give up! More palms and tropicals than you think will bounce back. We are still in the darkness "winter". It will be over soon.4 points
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For me it's not a reclinata but a hybrid of rupicola! I said it! I didn't know whether to say it or not4 points
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Mary Lock inspects the betel vendors at the Long Bien market in Hanoi. All of the betel nuts for sale were still green, which is apparently preferred over fully ripe nuts in Vietnam This vendor peels the fruit and arranges them as if they were flowers - an edible arrangement. These arrangements serve as gifts for your discerning betel nut chewer. The gift package is handed over to a motorbike courier for delivery.4 points
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More photos for posterity from Universal. It’s interesting that there’s so many degrees of variances to the damage plants achieve. I was at Islands Of Adventure to snap up some photos, and it’s really bad there. This was probably somewhat of a reckoning. But to my surprise, traveler’s palms in some locations fared better than I would have guessed.4 points
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Bing / Edge = steamy, slime covered piles of hot garbage to be avoided at al costs.. Overall, agree, definitely annoying that one now has to carefully weave thru techno trash piles to get to desired info / content but, ..it's out there, if you avoid AI ( = Am Idiot ) generated trash and aren't afraid of buckling down and doing actual research ..the only kind that matters ... and takes time / determination, and sharp as a tack critical thinking skills. Emphasize the Critical part. As much as sitting and reading thru a book might drive me nuts at times, glad to have them as back up info sources for specific stuff, if needed. Side note thought, ...Would hate to be a teacher atm.. Me? ..if i found -any- of my students using Am Idiot for completing any of their assigned course work, i wouldn't hesitate to call them out, by name, escorting them out of class, in front of everyone else, with a big " I Failed ..Completely " sign slung around their necks as they' reach the outside side of the door.4 points
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I have a 'Green Malayan' at my house in Altamonte Springs (north of Orlando). I'm in a cold pocket and wasn't planning on trying a coconut here. We have Great Danes and one of them liked to carry and chew on coconuts. My inlaws live in Jupiter so we would brink coconuts back and had a pile on the side of the house. One of them sprouted so I planted it in my banana patch. That was about 10 years ago. It would get some damage almost every year. This year it already had about 25% burn before the freeze hit. Its about 10ft tall with 3ft of clear trunk. I had 23F in my yard with the winds, 28F the 2nd night with frost. All the leaves are burned but the petioles are still green and a few leaflets stayed green. I cut the center leaves out last week in case rot tried to set in, spear was solid. With 3 days last week near 90F it is actually pushing new growth. I will be floored if it does regrow.4 points
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Every seed and bulb I own is now planted. I'd just like to throw that out there. Please clap. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVAn6WoDTPQ/?igsh=aWgwNHQ4aTJ3a2Y43 points
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I have friend phil who lives in town and I have him a couple of plumosa palms. He planted them in basically full sun with temperatures that reach at least 42 degrees Celsius and in a scorching hot brick paved backyard, and last summer was a hot one as well, it was one of those hot days you can cook egg on a frypan day, the poor plumosa basically cooked its heart and burst out. Now it’s in full recovery and growing somewhat well with a bit of a scare as a reminder of that one hot day. So I will say plumosa can take an absolute beating in heat and hot sun, but it was watered well and it did have a cool root run, but took a beating and still does!3 points
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I have always been a zone pusher, even when I lived in DC and always will. I'm thankful I live in one of the best microclimates in Orlando so that helps to an extent. It also may tempt me to push harder. Lol. So many people moved here from Puerto Rico and the Carribbean the last 5 years. They tell me coconuts are cheap and it reminds them of home. So I don't know if they think like we do as palm enthusiasts. It's just do it. I do think some will go with more hardy options just because it is work to remove and replace like you said. I had one night below 34F this winter and it just happened to be 25F. My luck. Most years we worry about that 30-32 range.3 points
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I was just looking at the models and the high sank down to the eastern Gulf. Again. That provides direct flow from the north to Florida unmodified if the wind is fast, which has been an issue everywhere this winter (the wind is the main complaint for California this year too). It also creates a wind direction that doesn't hit any water for many of the interior spots, so only soil heat (dry sand holds minimal heat) to modify the air. This high will be moving towards Naples this evening and bringing a wind shift to many, but light winds. If these high pressure centers went off the east coast (backside NE winds are worse for cold here in my spot but better south) instead or further west (not usually possible) then this pattern would not be so strong for east Florida, same as if there was winter rain and the wetlands full (thermal heat sink to modify air). The 80s had drought and drained Everglades (now being restored) and that was partly to blame for the extreme temps then. The drought now is assisting too. Once you add up all the parameters there are not many in our favor, and almost none if your not in an urban core or by water. Go north of I4 and all this is overwhealmed by the Continental airmass, so subtleties are moot, but further south the details matter, and this year none were lined up for a good pattern. Hope for El nino next fall to break the cycle and bring rain.🤞3 points
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I can not say it is not pure but neither can I claim the opposite. We just need more evidence. Alone the still not suckering habit is a strong indication of not purity but not full proof. Chamaerops is also a clumping sp but there is also a solitary strain, let alone the environmental factors that promote or conversely obstruct the amount and start time of suckering. I have come across a couple big reclinata specimens (admittedly not closely inspected- only in the web), which are solitary and imo no noincidence at all, that both are male. At least in dactylifera and theophrasti frequently male specimens have a considerably less pronounced to non existent caespitose habit than female individuals and about this I am pretty certain. So why this should not be also the case the close wild relative P reclinata? Furthermore if individual plant in current case is the result of offshoot transplant, I have even more serious doubts, whether it would sucker as soon as a seed grown plant of similar size. Like I said in the beginning we need more clues. A close up of the acanthophylls could be a crucial indication. Base of spine in reclinata is more or less rounded while in other lager sized spp and hybrids triangular.3 points
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I know we have gone far afield from Joseph Rossi/Texas Cold Hardy Palms, and the digression was partly my fault. However. I wanted to add: Leaving Facebook and Meta was a breeze compared to leaving Twitter. I was an addict, really. I did leave, though. I set up a Bluesky account (as @tarnado.bsky.social) ... I post some palm stuff from time to time. I'm very happy there, unlike Mastodon (which I also tried out). Peace be with you all. The world beyond our forum here is ... well, I love it here and I appreciate you all a great deal.3 points
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Doesn't she have any suckers yet? Reclinata as a child, she puts out suckers3 points
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I actually found a taker!!! A legit Palm reseller here in San Diego wants them. He took a look at them last week, and is coming Thursday to haul ‘em away! I shouldn’t be so sentimental, but it feels great to know they’ll be saved. 🥹 Better yet, the root ball will be removed, so adding their (more exotic) replacements will be a little easier. Yay! 🎉2 points
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That and the trough - deflecting Bermuda High seeming to be quite weak / shifty this year ..A point i forgot to add earlier.. While there may -some- deg. of troughiness across the east during these amplified, " ridge in the west / trough in the east " setups, we've both seen years where ridging, that might have a bigger center somewhere over the west, extends far enough to the southeast, to a point somewhere over the Bahamas / south of there and essentially helps deflect any deep diving troughs away from FL. This just doesn't seem to be one of those years, unfortunately.. We've gotten close, but no " official " 90s here just yet. That changes by tomorrow or Thursday though.. Neighborhood - level readings?, yep, been a few 90 / 90+ readings scattered about so far. Under this pattern, can believe parts of Montana seeing 70 or 80F readings too. Of course up there, it can go from 45 or 55 to -15 ..or -45 in less than 24 hours. Talk about a tough place to grow much of anything, lol. While the last series of systems did drop enough snow boost totals in some areas, Sierras esp, definitely a down year for snow across the west, across the board. Warmer storms dropping rain in some of the same areas over -at least- the next few days will eat some of that snowfall though. Longer term? less of it, ...more often than more of it.. is just a fact of life folks are going to have to get used to. Smart folks will adjust. Others? ..they're free to move elsewhere, where ever they assume pastures are greener, so to say.. Plant the right stuff and you won't have to worry too much. PLENTY of interesting things to chose from, that give you the tropical look, but aren't living / leaf -bearing data centers ..which definitely have no place being built out here. A subject for another time / place. Anyhow..2 points
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The average of the models for my location tonight is in the low 40s. The NWS is forecasting 36°F. Not sure why, I guess they are covering themselves. My garage is again filled with all my potted stuff as it is about the only things left that don't look like a flamethrower got 'em. I wasn't going to do it, but my wife stamped her feet, counted to three and cooked a really nice meal for me last night. After tonight I can begin to assess the final tally. Some of my Christmas Palms are pushing out new fronds and seed pods. The Foxtails are also pushing their spears and flushing seed pods. To me, it is a miracle that this is happening three weeks after two nights in the mid-20s with 50 MPH winds. Royals are also pushing fronds and even my buddy's coconuts show new seed pods and new growth, albeit partly fried. Long, long way to go but it may not be a total loss. One way or the other I will be removing them, eventually, or looking at really ugly palms for the foreseeable.2 points
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Yes, I cut the 2 or 3 inner leaves and an opening leaf and spear. I did this Thurs. and it has pushed out new growth about 1.5". I'm going to put a sheet wrap around this center tonight. Its supposed to be 35 but still so maybe frost. Next week I will trim the other leaves but going to leave the lower halves since the petioles are still solid, green and alive.2 points
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Have in mind both, that greenhouse grown palms in shade are etiolated and therefore look more tropical.2 points
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To your point there are many, many more Royals and Sabals around these parts than Washingtonias and certainly no naturally growing ones. Florida cannot, for a number of reasons, match the iconic look that a towering Washingtonia bestows on the West Coast of California. But outside the urbanized, wealthy corridors the same description applied to Florida is true for California, I imagine. This isn't a knock on California at all! I am at a disadvantage as to the horticultural delights on the West Coast as I have not had the pleasure to familiarize myself with that area recently. Now that I am a gentleman of leisure I hope to correct that. I consider myself as living in the interior, certainly this year would bear out that assumption. In certain areas I could think I was back living in the tropics, while in others, only blocks away, it looks like a savannah. It takes effort, intent, knowledge and $$ to successfully achieve a "tropical" look here and maintain a landscape. Most people do not possess that combination. Even then, a winter such as we are experiencing, can quickly knock years off of a truly tropical garden. I am living proof. Finally, I cannot tell you how many times I have looked upon unkempt Queen Palms, Coconuts, etc that people have strewn about their yards willy nilly and then never lifted a finger to maintain. They would be better off with grass. My two cents.2 points
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The palm in your pic looks different to me . Mine has very stiff leaves that are shorter and dark green. @Phoenikakias , if you look at my second picture , you will see my single trunk Chamaerops Humilus that you mention. I planted it as a seedling over 20 years ago . It has never suckered , just grew straight up . I actually wanted a typical suckering palm so I could cut the trunks that got too tall. As luck would have it , I ended up with a non suckering one. Harry2 points
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This was a while ago. It has two main trunks that are getting big . My plan is to cut almost all the suckers off except the main larger trunks . I just have to get my chain saw down there and hack away , I just know I will need a lot of band aids! Harry This one was suckering before it left the pot at an early stage , younger than yours. From our deck looking down . To the left of the Washingtonia . Harry2 points
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That last photo is the vendor explaining what chewing betel nut does to your teeth.2 points
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The ones I sent out in Australia haven’t germinated yet either, they must not have the happypalms knack for germination. Well now in Australia i would say Pauline Sullivans seeds are most likely the only ones getting around. Richard2 points
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The other ones I sent out in Australia still haven’t germinated either, they must not have the happypalms knack 🤣 Richard2 points
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Doesn’t matter that it’s in a pot. P. reclinata start suckering at a young age whether in a pot or in the ground. The coloring of the cut stems on the trunk of your’s reminds me of Phoenix sylvestris.2 points
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That's why I only use UPS even if it's a pain in the ass. I have to drive to the library to print a label or I can pay $4 for the UPS store to print it or maybe the other drop-off point (gun store) can print it if their printer is working that day. Either way it's a 70 mile round trip but I know whatever I send will get there when it's supposed to.2 points
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Florida doesn't really rely on palms as much for its landscape, from what I've seen, as there's a certain charm and appeal even to just the type of foliage you see around Ocala or Jacksonville, where it's mostly mature live oaks, old sabals (some of which look more like a wild shrub at times than a palm), etc. Granted, very little of that is visible from the interstates, where a lot of the planting choices have been poor. You have to drive through the local roads to see the old growth. The more exotic/majestic palms will always be centered around the coasts and wealthier areas I'd say. And Florida was a pretty cheap place to live/retire before the COVID mass migration, so California probably has had more money dumped into such things in general.2 points
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Yes, the fluctuations are brutal. I do feel this should be the end of freezing worries based on long range forecasts. Anything is possible anymore though! I soaked the soil today around the coconut but am not planning any protection.2 points
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Nice spot for the Joey . That little protection spot will hopefully keep it safe from these winds. You’ve done a good job of sheltering it . Harry2 points
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Okay - @PNWPalmSeeker I mean @NWpalms@206 and @Las Palmas Norte and @jwitt I sent *a letter* to the residential address where these palms are located on Vashon Island. A couple of weeks later, I got a phone call from the palm-grower hisself! So - some interesting and *naturally* sad news about these Washies. a) So, the palm-planter is a fan of palm trees from their time spent in Mexico and Costa Rica. When he saw some Mexican fan palms for sale at the Home Depot or Lowe's about 20 years ago, he bought a dozen of them. They were about 2 to 2.5 feet high (less than 1 meter) and he planted them along the lower part of the property. b) sometime about 2 years ago - so, about 6 months after you took the photo, @NWpalms@206, the palm-planter and owner reports that all these palms seemed to come down with some kind of disease or infection. I will say that we had a pretty significant cold snap before this disease outbreak, so those things could be related. The cold itself, though, did not seem to damage the palms (down to 14 F). c) the palm-planter is pretty bummed out about the whole affair but seemed to be hopeful that Washies will be for sale again at cheap prices at the area Home Depot or Lowe's this spring, or following spring... he still seems excited about palms. So! Maybe you'll bump into him down at the area big box hardware store some time 😜2 points
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That’s part of my wish a mini botanical garden, I will collect any plant so long as it doesn’t have a big weed potential. And no certificate for my plants I couldn’t handle the government bureaucracy ruling me it’s bad enough importing seeds. One day I will make a few bucks! Richard2 points
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My Cordylines and Crotons were all defoliated. We'll see if they leaf back out when it warms up. If not, there is a reason I put a few Sabal minor 'McCurtain' between each of the crotons.2 points
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Here’s a quick snap of my Joey this morning, still hiding in a sheltered location after the last wind event. The preferred location (that I’m worried might be too windy) is in the lower left, in front of the mealy bug. You can also see a toppled bromeliad from the recent wind event (which is of course a non-issue). On a positive note, I can see the mealy bug palm again! Which was the reason I moved my lafazamanga).2 points
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My lafazamanga caught my eye this evening, and I thought I’d share a photo of it post-transplant (which happened months ago). as far as I can tell, it’s very happy in its new location, and hasn’t missed a beat from the move.🤞 Has been such a great plant for me, so I’m hoping it will do as well in the new (equally prominent) location. 💕2 points
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Welcome to Palmtalk @RinnaPalm! Agree, it's Chrysalidocarpus lutescens (areca palm). I guess you plan to keep it in a pot. I just bought one myself - they do best with filtered sunlight so it seems like you have a good spot for it. Make sure that the soil drains well and that it doesn't sit in water. It's a clustering palm (like the cat palm) so it will produce additional stems as it grows. With the number of thin stems it's likely that your pot contains multiple young palms. Good luck with it!2 points
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