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It's wintertime in Holland with snow and a few degrees below zero C.. Nothing to worry about, just enjoying the view of the garden with some Trachy. fortunei, a Chamaerops humilis vulcano, laurels with winterprotection for the stems and a few date palms! By the end of the week, it will all be over again!

@juju95 I would say Elaeis Guineensis, but a rare mutation called "whole leaf" or "Idolatrica." ...and welcome to Palmtalk!

Christmas Palm seeds update. Received these seeds in late November & nearly every seed germinated by the middle of December, so these seedlings are around 3 weeks old now. Thank you again! @kinzyjr

@PalmBossTampa It does look like you might have gotten the link for the poster rather than the thread. I took the liberty to correct it in your post. All: For the podcasts mentioned, we've linked them on the CFPACS site on our Publications page: https://cfpacs.com/org/palmateer/ The Webinar I did back in February 2021 is the third link down IPS Webinar - A Blank Slate to Flourishing Palm Garden. All of them were great from my point of view, but some of them are not searchable. In addition to webinars, all of the CFPACS publications back to 1990 are posted for everyone to enjoy. Hope this helps.

Mine is nice and curvy…

Nothing special nor rare just some common forms set free from the pot.

Palm was received as Ptycho woodfordiana. But don’t think that’s a species. Also seeds aren’t star shaped in cross section when cut. I’m thinking Pinanga philippinensis?

Finally got a bloom, overeating lookin inflorescence. Tim

You guys get a few more points in California for Rhopalostylis, Ceroxylon, Hesyscepe, etc. hah! Here’s my Blue Decipiens. Still a ways off from trunking when they seem to speed up. I’m guessing this one is 8-9 feet tall from ground to tip of newest leaf.

Yes, there is even more snow than here at Lake Constance, although I would prefer no snow at all in the community garden rather than the few centimeters we had and some still have. Perhaps I should have visualized that even more or better 😊

Wimmie, which region are you in exactly? How cold are the winters there on average over many years? In any case, you have a wonderful collection of exotic plants that you care for 🤗

When you want

I can't imagine a scene with so much snow in my garden, I would lose all the plants😥

Oh my , that seems challenging. It looks like you have a system though. Harry

I've been fascinated by this tiny mutant variation of the familiar Rhapis excelsa but over the years managed to kill several when I repotted and/or separated the clumps. Last fall I bought another pot of this densely clumping palm from Jeff Searle and swore to handle it extra carefully. On the surface, this variation looks like a rat's nest of grasslike leaves. On closer inspection you will see among the strap leaves tiny palmate leaves of 3-4 leaflets belonging to 6" tall, 1/8" diameter stems of individual palms. This afternoon I brought my Super Dwarf out of the jungle to inspect and trim away excess dead leaves. And what did I find? In the center of the clump one little stem was producing an infructescense of 5-6 green seeds. I've never seen that before so I grabbed my phone and 4X reading glasses to document this find. Unfortunately for all of us, I've read that Rhapis Super Dwarf is female only so those seed are infertile. But it shares the same structure as its gigantic cousins. It wasn't easy capturing this one stem among 100s of others so I marked some of the photos. Rhapis excelsa "Super Dwarf" w/seeds, Cape Coral, FL

A garden owner here in China is selling this. I'm not sure it is exactly the Super Dwarf form. He said his uncle has propagated a lot from a dwarf variant individual of Rhapis excelsa that he found many years ago.

It is tricky to see differences between C arenarum and C lutescens because they have similar traits and C lutescens especially can be variable. From what I’ve seen, I’d say this is what I look for: Emergent spear colour: C arenarum- always red/maroon. C lutescens - variable from slightly red to green. Even if red, it’s usually not as striking as C arenarum and colour is only on recently exposed spear at the base near the growth point. Trunk: C arenarum- when young, usually a blue/green with a silvery sheen. When older, colour darkens. C lutescens - variable especially depending on sun exposure and climate but ranges from a blue/green similar to C arenarum all the way through to golden yellow. Growth habit: C arenarum- fronds and trunks generally more upright. New stems form by splitting at the growth point. C lutescens - trunks arch away from each other more and fronds arch further down towards horizontal. Clumping habit generally more dense although this is variable and there are solitary specimens. New stems form via new shoots at ground level, splitting at growth point or aerial branches. A couple of photos of mine which may or may not help: C arenarum: C lutescens:

Ghe xe un mucio de altre palme ca podarìa sopraviver li, butia, phoenix theofrastii etc. La dactylifera xe una dele me palme favorite ma intel me zardín a ne go mucio de spassio, sfortunatamente. El xe sojo 450 metri quadrati e la xe na palma enorme. Un di a vegnerò a Venessia par praticar el véneto e forse anca vedar el to zardín!

Update #2: Several more Serenoa repens seeds from @Boca Palms germinated. They’re in their own cups now. Update #3: Currently soaking the Buccaneer Palm seeds that @Johnny Palmseed sent my way. Thank you again for the seeds! I need springtime to hurry up. 😂

or rupicola It doesn't look like my hybrids roebelenii x reclinata,roebelenii x dactylifera

It’s not cunninghamiana or purpurea. On the basis of probability I’d go with alexandrae but that’s a pure guess. To rule out tuckeri, myolensis, or maxima you’d need to see it in flower and up close, to start narrowing it down properly.

Hey Tom, thank you for the kind message. Let me give you my honest opinion about warm winters. The only thing why I pray for a mild winter is because of my plants , that's the only reason. I can't stand long periods of hot weather and I really hoped for a cooler winter to get a break from the never-ending summer lol. We have 2 more months of zick zack weather then the weather patterns become more stable and warmer. I miss the snow that's why I'm going to spend 5 days in Colorado next week.

@Mishaq Loureiroi has a fairly thin trunk, as does Reclinata. I could see those as a Reclinata pruned to just one trunk, maybe?

Yep, it's not cheap. That said, you have some time to decide what you want to do and maybe you'll get a scholarship or some grants to offset the cost. I didn't start growing palms until after I graduated, so you have a leg up there. My choices when I graduated were moving here or moving to SoCal. The primary drivers for coming here were that it was cheaper for housing and I already knew a few people in the area. If you're open to other options as far as majors, USF and UCF have some really good programs and are public. They also have decent botanical areas on campus. FIT in Melbourne has the Dent Smith Trail and is very close to a lot of other botanical gardens and CFPACS members. If you and the family happen to be in the neighborhood down here, go ahead and holler and I can show you all around. My garden is always open to you all for a tour as well: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/52296-palms-and-others-of-interest/ Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the college/university.

Agreed. And wow!!

Sunny ( for most areas of town. Some clouds hanging around to the west / north ) and 71F at 3:49PM as the first weekend of 26 and ..most.. of the holiday lights come down for the year.. Week ahead looks ..pretty avrg. Maybe more spit mid week. Yesssir, when it comes to rain, anything less than .25" is ..spit. Dry ( ..or so it appears atm ) beyond that slight chance for rain. Looking at the two, main extended forecasts i trust the most ( ..which isn't 100% btw ) Not too bad. Like time and date's more but it has a tendency to flip n' flop more than WX Undergrounds.. Heck, half an hour ago, it was tempting me with a couple 80F days as we approach mid month. Current " flip " holds temps down in the more logical lower 70s for the same timeframe.. We'll see if either pans out. That said, ..If today's 6 - 10 and 8 - 14 day thoughts from the CPC are roughly " in the park " as we head forward, perhaps the first 80F day(s) of 2026 are possible, sooner than i'd thought. Nice thought, but, ..we'll see.. Regardless, not a bad look / nuthin' to howl about as we trek thru the middle of " winter " here in the low desert / rest of the Southwest.. Think CA could use a nice break from the rain again too. Pretty decent Spring Wildflower season appears to be locked in for most of the state this year. Some pockets of color around to enjoy i'm sure ..but, not looking like a " super - year " out here this spring.. Want a lot of Snow in the mountains ..Outside parts of the Pac. N.W / upper interior west / Sierra? ( Don't think it's looking all that great, despite the storms, up there too ) this winter ain't looking like your winner. Still some time of course, ..but, you'd be better not to place any bets on a February or March Miracle this year.

Those hybrids you have mentioned, have considerably thicker trunks.

I hope everyone is having a great new year so far! Here are a few pics from today.

Golf course at Lajitas Resort, which borders Big Bend and the Rio Grande.

I went walking in Crescent Bend Nature Park today. The area was a residential area until it flooded in 1996 and 1997. It was then made into a park with lots of trails. There are a couple of old Washingtonias in the park that were likely in someone's backyard at some point. They blend in nicely in the savanna environment of the park though:

Clear Lake Shores, Texas

Wonderful, Norbi 🤗Good work with the protection.

Just talked to clerk at P.O. they didn't know about problem with calculating price. Still not working...but here's the offer anyway. All seeds super fresh Actinorhytis calapparia- Seeds are huge, extra cost to ship, easy to sprout $1.50 each. About 30 available. Loxococcus rupicola- sprouted/sprouting $1…unsprouted .50 Pinanga speciosa- .50 each. Heterospathe brevicaulis -20 each. Areca novohibernica-this looks a lot like A. guppyana .75 each (only 30 available). Euterpe edulis- sprouted/sprouting .50 Arenga caudata .20 each Zamia angustifolia $1 each. (Just waiting for next cone to pop). Satakentia - some .25 each Ptychosperma- unknown sp.- have to check these for viability Plus Shipping, Spaghum, etc. Beachpalms@cfl.rr.com Accepting Zelle, or (PayPal-friends and family-No fees on my end)

I need a good tutorial from @kinzyjr here’s which post

Hello Pete -- Could you check the link you included at the top of your message? I tried it a few times and it leads to the profile page for Phoenikakias, not a discussion. If you could link the actual discussion it would help in understanding the main focus of your message. As for podcasts -- it's not quite that, but look up the International Palm Society on YouTube where you will find several excellent recordings of webcasts.

Most places over that way are a little cooler and get more frost. There might be some areas around the middle of Plant City that are a little milder. Even just outside of town is more susceptible to frost and cold. You mentioned Florida Southern in the other thread - that area tends to have good microclimates.

I posted the white one earlier. Here's the pink one.

man jason ... i cant believe how much your garden has advanced in a couple of years. seems like just yesterday we were reading about the start of this project. btw i was wondering if you have any decipiens planted? your thread is so long now that i can't possibly remember. you probably have a couple of the blue decipiens (aka betafaka) from jeff marcus. regardless, your garden is looking phenomenal. cheers tin

Yeah, a tough call to be sure at that age. Arenarium definitely seem to have a much more maroon “push“ when young. But they’re obviously closely aligned with lutecsens. Most of the ones posted also seem to cluster similarly. The one I have (via Floribunda), which purchased about 14 years ago, remained solitary and is a moderate size palm currently about 25 feet in height. If I were to drive by it in someone else’s garden, I would think “lutecsens”. Interestingly, that palm has been seeding for a number of years, while a similarly aged lutecsens clump has not.

Hi Marcus, these are summer temperatures—at least they would be here. Did you and your family have a good New Year's Eve? Unfortunately, it's very cold here, colder than normal, but you would definitely like it. There's snow on the ground and yes, it looks beautiful. We wish you a happy new year here. It's only January 4, so it still counts. We haven't had any days of ice yet. However, we did have a low temperature of -8.6°C here in the community garden, which is really cold. It was freezing, but luckily it rose to between 2 and 4°C during the day, which we are very happy about... Best regards from the mild Lake Constance region—that was a good joke, or 😁

New pic of clara...its maybe just slighty faster than armata..nice droopy leaves look even at this age... also few pics from my friend garden...

Beautifull garden and collection, indeed eye candy 😍

3 out of 10 germinated so far

Ravenea rivularis

Very nicely done ! Harry

steve .. thanks for posting yours with the top of the fronds. I imagine you had to really get on top of that palm. I took a pic of mine today below. I think it is finally starting to turn silver on top. hope it looks like yours in another 5 years or so. it is starting to rocket for sure tin

Both planted 2015 as small palms..not even close to Stevetoad brahea..probably climate, shade and to much competition...

Mine is about 8-10 years behind I guess but I already love it. It’s nearly finished its green-silver transformation. All the different hues it goes through during transformation are nice but it’s good to see it approaching nearly full silver now.

So I went by and took pics, then stuffed my face in the nearby Mexican eatery.

Jeff , This ones not overly attractive to me. For a dwarf Rhapis, R. subtilis is a bit more appealing.