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In 2014, I gathered seeds of this species from habitat in Cuba. 12 years of growth in the Arizona desert and here are the results. The ones I planted in full, all day sun, are finally putting out larger fan shaped leaves. The ones planted in shade, although a much prettier shade of green, are still only pushing strap leaves after all this time. Full sun definitely makes a difference in speed of growth. Species is basically a miniature version of Copernicia macroglossa, but is better adapted to smaller yards and gardens where space is at a premium. Unfortunately, due to its extremely slow growth rate and rarity of seeds, it will never be common or commercially produced. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

A couple of the more common New Caledonia palms, but still very eye catching: cyphophoenix elegans: Kentiopsis Oliviformis:

Same old Pinanga demanding attention at leaf drop.

A nice bit of rain and some high temperatures has the Sabal moving along looking rather good. A nice easy palm to grow tolerant of a lot cool weather and heat like most palms just add water and good drainage!

What actually caught my eye today was my marojejya darinii, there are palms and then there are palms! This is one of those palms too me!

Urens are pretty max when they fall over.

Below are some photos from the meeting: I had a great time and got to check out a potential future meeting site after the meeting, courtesy of @PalmBossTampa!

Socratea stilt roots. Tim

I have one growing in full sun and I love it. It is perhaps my favorite Sabal in the garden, because it looks quite different from the rest. Unfortunately not very resistant to wind but even so it retains an interesting figure. In a worrying incident during past warm season it had its youngest fully developed frond dried out almost up to half the length of its petiole and further growth stalled. This has signaled a loud alarm in my mind, because it could be a symptom of rhizoctonia, which had killed many other smaller Sabal specimens around with similar initial symptoms. So I had to resort to very radical measures, I had nothing to lose anyway. I drenched the soil around the plant with 10 lt water containing 400 gr tolclofos-methyl. This is a horrific amount of fungicide. But no other young frond has died ever since and plant was growing all summer long at snail's pace but it was growing nonetheless! As weather has progressively cooled up and rainfalls started, plant has taken off and a huge new leaf has unfolded.

I prefer to with some remote germinating palms to raise the seedling to the button level after transplanting them, I don’t know why but some prefer to raised, if you do it with a Joey they don’t seem to be as strong in the container for some reason, perhaps remote germinating palms that dont have a trunk prefer to be planted deeper and those with a trunk like to be lifted. From my experience if buried back to the original seed they seem to not like it with certain varieties that have been transplanted. Strange because in nature it would not occur but in cultivation it seems to be the go, knowing which ones to lift is the trick!

I’ll say it god oh mighty!

Great palms; like Steve says, even better in semi shade. The white leaf undersides are are an added bonus..

Caryota maxima when they fall they hit hard, they don’t call them maxima for no reason at all!

Hola @Baja Sur nice to meet you, sorry to hear the reason. You, @Harry’s Palms and me are all kinda sorta neighbors, though I suspect you’re a lot more tropical. Triangles like fast drainage and mucho agua and sometimes get fungus. Puctures por favor!

A couple of beauties there @Hilo Jason. My Cyphophoenix is just a baby , nice to see what a larger one looks like. Also the Kentiopsis Oliformis , I just sowed some seeds and the New Caledonia palms grow slowly for me. Harry

Nice! Did you grow them from spores? Here's some that I visited at the weekend to inspire your future garden!

Great habitat pictures! Not exactly habitat, but here’s a nice B. pimo starting grow nicely. Killer petioles on these.

A couple more borneense have come up, and they have to be the biggest seedlings I have worked with. There’s another two that need potting a bit later so 5 out of 10 not too bad for imported seeds. Should be an interesting rather large palm tree to grow, definitely looking forward to seeing them in the garden.

Best time to start a slow growing species is today folks! Future you will be glad you did

They are tough being a Sabal, interesting you noted the rhizoctonia, I had a Kerriodoxa in the ground do the same symptoms. Sometimes you just have to use chemicals like it or not. Wind gives them a tattered look I seen one in Sydney Australia and it looked shabby due to the wind damage. But I will be looking into the rhizoctonia symptoms you suggested, it seems to one of those fungal diseases that strikes anytime it wants I have noticed as soon as it warms up at the end of winter it strikes. Glad to hear your palm recovered it’s 50/50 the survival rate with that fungus. Thanks for the information.

Took the power out to the whole neighborhood - on Stupor Bowl Sunday Eve!

I am in Fresno, but we're under that dreaded tule fog at the moment. Haven't seen the sun since that last rain in November just prior to Thanksgiving. Just fog all day long. My soil is still wet and my palms look good, so I probably won't be irrigating unless we go another month without rain and I notice the soil becomes too dry.

A little rubbing compound and that'll be just fine... Butch

No, sir. I'm completely focused on the palm tree material 😁 😃 That was always my answer to our favorite teacher in high school, who looked just like Robin Williams-RIP, with the same gestures and way of speaking, full of wit, intelligence, and pure humor. He would always ask, “Boy, are you paying attention?” Of course I was, but he shouldn't have seated me right by the window when the girls' class was taking place downstairs, playing soccer, basketball, and volleyball—bad luck... I sat next to a top student and my teacher thought that would rub off on me. Once he asked me what I thought about Napoleon on Elba, and I said it was 2-1 to the girls in blue jerseys... he had to laugh himself, and then I gave him a smarter answer...

@Foggy Paul Yes , the Indian Summers extend our growing season and are nice , as long as we don’t get the howling Santa Ana winds with it. The one negative of being up on hospital hill is exposure to the winds. Harry

Ι have tried it with a Hyphaene coriacea in pumice. The plant still lives and has segmented leaves, but I had to remove several cm of pumice from the top in oder to reveal the bulb, because every regula4 winter I had issues with rot.

It’s taken around 9 months to get to this stage, but actual germination around 4 to 5 months. Sown on the 26/3/2025.

Just wanting to confirm the variety. This palm is different than other dwarf coconut palms I have grown as it seems to have different growth habits and characteristics. Their trunks were shorter with closer/tighter petioles. They all received essentially the same amount of direct sunlight as this palm gets. This palm is 2-3 years old and is approximately 5ft tall. It seems to have decent growth rates. The spear seen in the picture is just barely starting to open and there is already a new smaller spear visible.

It looks like a green dwarf to me but then I am no expert. I have golden malay dwarves here and they all look basically the same but there are small variations in one from a different supplier. Probably not much help but might give you something to ponder Peachy

I was a bit disappointed actually, they were a pacsoa purchase from palm and cycad society, one would at least think they were good to go! It may have been the germinaters fault!

Yes , lots of water . I water mine at least twice a week , more in warm weather . I have fast draining soil with dry breezy conditions nearly every afternoon. I have not had any trouble with them . They have been in the ground for over 25 years , very small palms when I planted them . Harry Tucked in behind the Caryota Mitis Right after removing a few old leaf bases.

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Update on these orania, nothing germinated!

Here’s the one I have in the shade, super stretchy petioles.

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I recently learned here on PT that these like an arid climate. They do very well at my house but evidently can have fungal problems in certain parts of Hawaii. Pics would help. Harry

My favorite Sabal as well. Unfortunately the gophers liked “Marty” enough to make a meal of it. 🙁 Harry

I have another one that’s quite large in deeper shade and the petioles stretch to almost 3 meters, definitely better looking in the shade. Most people think Sabal it must have sun, not the mauritiformis. One nice palm they are and a bit rare in my area!

This is probably the only group on earth with "society" in the name where I'm accepted. So I'll say it.

No snakes like pythons here in California. At least not that I know of.

Heresy! Burn him, he's a witch.

Two years ago I got a hybrid Encephalartos from a botanic garden overhere. I got it just because it is a hybrid, see the written text "hybrid discard". This summer I noticed "movement" in the crown and I was curious whether it would cone or flusch. It appeared to be coning, two nice green cones with a length of 30 cm's. I now wonder whether it will become a little bit yellow/orange. The cross is natalensis x villosus.

Previously mentioned baby mango. Tommy Atkins, and I've got 3 more rooting and I'm eating one every day so I'll have tons.

I’m not sure of the name of these agaves but they grow wild locally and the locals use them for medicinal purposes. My sister in law makes a home remedy with the fermented leaves of these agave. It’s used to clean out your kidneys. I really like the color of the leaves on these.

A couple of palms doing well in the garden, synecanthus warswecwiczianus looking good. Along with a new leaf or two on the bactris gassiapaes.

Latania & butterfly

Clinostigma samoense in a light drizzle. One of the world’s most beautiful palms. Tim

John, you're doing a great job. Everything you're doing in such a short time, plus Sancho, cooking, and everything else. You're a one-man show. I think it's wonderful. It just had to be said.🤗

How deep are pots and how far from operculum lies the bulb?

Oenocarpus distichus is getting big. Rocky 2 and Suubi stayed still long enough to provide some scale.