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Sabal row has now been converted to Sabal cluster. I’ve added a lot of silver saw palmettos in pots underneath to give it a very native look.

Alocasia over 30 years old

You have a nice boy congratulations, paint the garden blue!

I had been facing same problem for decades. But problem was solved in an unpleasant way, in that water salinity rose due to ongoing drought and the best crf may not be suitable anymore. It is an awful situation really. I wanted to try a long lasting crf of the brand HAIFA, but I have searched in vain for it. For the ground planted palms I will never apply again any chemical fertilizer. For the pots filled with very porous medium I use a 6 month lasting osmocote. Not less the 6 months duration, otherwise a big, BIG risk of root burn. You can buy in small quantities from the web, there is an offer by a supplier located in Kalamata. But bear in mind, osmocote granules are not homogeneous. Others contain some of the main elements and others some of the t.e.. So you need a handful, in order to secure right ratio of supplied nutrients. But what if you must apply only a pinch of the mix on liners or small pots?

Dypsis louvelli new leaf is worth a bit of attention. And in flower no seeds yet but Iam hopeful one day.

Your my kind of customer, drop in anytime! Richard

That "LISA" just looks better and better with age! Nice!!!

Hot weather and no rainfall is the order for the garden at the moment. Daily irrigation has the garden looking good still.

@Oakisland1 yellow tips on older leaves is typically a Magnesium deficiency. Yellow tips (or frazzled brown) on *new* leaves is typically a Manganese or Boron deficiency. In your case I'd think it's "normal behavior" for a recent transplant to show some yellow tips. A bit of granulated Magnesium Sulfate might help keep it from spreading. Some people use Epsom Salts, but I just have a 50lb bag of Magnesium Sulfate (Sulphate) in the garage. After a few years of growing palms I've figured out which ones in the yard need a bit of extra Magnesium going into winter. If it has been a few months since planting, you could add a smallish amount of any "palm" type fertilizer. The typical recommendation here is 8-2-12 ratio and something like PalmGain or Florikan. I've used PalmGain, Sunniland 6-1-8, Vigoro 8-4-8, Lesco 13-3-13 and am currently using Sunniland Professional 8-0-10 Tree and Shrub. The dose for a well-rooted palm is 1.5lb of 8-2-12 for every 100sqft of canopy. Sabals are fairly small diameter, so maybe 12' diameter = 113sqft * 1.5 / 100 = 1.7lb per palm. Since it's not rooted in yet, maybe a half handful per palm is safe to avoid burning new roots. You could probably do a normal dose in the spring.

I have had the last batch I planted float . I planted them anyway and I just noticed the first one popping up . I planted 8 seeds . The first batch got eaten by rodents , I think they are like candy to whatever ate my first batch . As soon as they got their first leaf , the varmint ate just the stem. Harry ‘the first ones got eaten within a month , all at the same time , they left the leaf! The stem was eaten. This was taken after they sprouted. I had buried the seed just slightly covering the top so no seed was visible.

Hey Hugo, are you trying to scare us all? You want to play scary? Look how trees are dying everywhere near me... Soon this hill will be left without trees and guess what happens next... landslide! Even newly planted substitutes die quickly despite that they are on drip line.

I started this thread back then. Are these Cunninghamiana though? I cannot see any spots on the green part of the trunk. Perhaps they are Alexandrae? For some reason 99% of Archontophoenices in Greek nurseries are Alexandrae. From what I have read they are a tad more sensitive to the cold (but more resistant to winds).

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Chamaedorea ernesti-augustii in bloom. @happypalms what sex do you think?

I bought mine in a similar state and as if this wasn't enough, I left them in the car at 60 C for few hours (I thought the car would be in shade but then the sun found it). I thought they would be goners but both are growing fast right now and hopefully they will survive my 9b winter outdoors..

They won't do any growing at 5C, but will probably survive in cool suspended animation until you can give them more warmth provided you're careful keeping the roots only minimally moist. These palms need good light to grow; they are not kentias. They look stunted and starved of light. They want a bright conservatory or similar with daytime temperatures 20C+ to start recovering. They are pretty resilient for a palm but there is a reason why they are not universal house plants.

It’s never a dull moment in the garden, always a joy to wander around. Richard

I prefer private growers that sell small palms for reasonable prices . Mostly backyard operations , cash and carry. A certain PT man comes to mind , 🤔. Really cool stuff and super healthy palms. Harry

King palms can take time to revive but usually respond to regular watering and protection until they start showing signs of growth. They would have to be very cheap before I would consider it. Harry

The big chain stores did that for a little while went with the odd exotic, I even heard of chain stores in cairns selling Johannesteijsmannia palms. I guess climate dictates what will sell in certain areas as well. The best selling palm I can sell to a local hardware chain is lytocarum weddlianum they sell of the trolley as I wheel it in! I guess when you really grow a palm for so long and look at what it takes to grow in years and labour and costs, no wonder kentias sell for $800 bucks. Richard

Hello my possum. I wish I could get that for a kentia and if I could I would soon ditch the exotics and grow kentias. I want to buy a small plant that’s $10 dollarss and $20 for postage the poor seller loses out to the chain stores, oh the world has gone to the pack house in a big way. Funny you mention being a bride I was at a wedding on the weekend! Richard

Yes it’s a shame, the retail stores just want what the general public wants. New home owners and garden make over buyers. Such a shame. Frost does determine a lot of what can be available in certain areas.

At those prices for a common kentia, what would they charge for something more unusual ? Many of these small nurseries are their own worst enemies. People will pay way above the odds for something different but it has it's limits. As a young bride I wanted a palm for the terrace and found a Phoenix roebellini. about 80cms overall height (not that I knew what it was back then) A mere $300 at the time or about 1 months salary at the time. No I did not buy it ! Buying palms now is an expensive operation. With the lack of nurseries now, most purchases are online, so you pay for your palm then a small fortune for postage. Then to be of a mail packaging size they are never really big enough to plant. Peachy

We have a nursery in Ventura that has different palms . Rhopalostylus Sapida , Chrysalidiocarpus Decaryi , Chamaedorea Plumosa , Costa Rica , Chambeyronia Macrocarpa , etc. The big box stores are terrible with only Queen , King , and Pygmy palms ….occasionally Howea for steep prices. Years ago the big box had some really nice palms but they stopped selling anything of interest . In our warm temperate climate we can grow so much more . Harry

Richard, even here, the few nurseries that remain always have the same palm trees, never anything new, and yet there are so many palm trees that can be grown in my region.

Nobody knows... 🤷‍♂️🤦 Plants are not on any timetable. When seeds are advertised as available, that's the time to buy. No hesitation, or you miss out. It's a life lesson for any rare item. If you want it,buy it right then,right there. If you don't, somebody else surely will. Speaking from experience... aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Sabal palmetto, Lisa in Dallas

Just scored this 25gal Dypsis sp. Ambanja (heeled version) from a nursery on the east coast. Originally from Floribunda. Maybe it will be described some day 🤞🏼

Oh. I ended up doing this Friday. I need some eBay sales to come through for a cheap paint/sealant but yeah. And my measurements were like, dead nuts on, it fits perfectly in here and it's not coming out without disassembly. Anyway I eBay'd some Loquat seedlings. I ordered 5 for $10, I got 6 and one that's definitely dead. My poverty space heater is keeping this room around 75-80° depending on how far I crank it up, and Lord knows there's enough light in here so from what I've read, they should do well. The shipping on them was uhh interesting. Like, they were clearly grown in plugs and it's like he threw the plugs into a Ziploc and sealed it and then threw that in a priority mail box and then threw that in a bubble mailer. I've never seen live plants shipped in a sealed baggie and out of the 7, one is dead and 2 look good..... My red Ensete banana was begging for more space and honestly, I don't feel like drilling a bunch of holes in a bucket today. So I just gave it a one gallon for now. It'll be fine. Anyway also I know the chances of these sprouting is slim, but whatever. Threw some broken colocasia stems in water. And since the weather is so lovely today, I dragged all the big bananas outside. I still need to brace a side of the bench, I have 2 more shop lights to hang, move the full spectrum lights over, plug another heat mat in, I think there's one or 2 more Walmart papayas that are ready for pots, I need to eat and seed this dragon fruit, start throwing willows and crape myrtles in bags, but after crashing out all day yesterday from doing way too much on Friday I'm still a little wiped. But I wanted to get the loquats in dirt before any more of them died. I've still got enough plywood and 2x4 chunks to build another table, and I'd like to go back and get 2x4s to put on the underside of the table purely for aesthetics, I think like a matte white finish or something would work. And what's really cool is, I have like 8 pairs of work gloves from my time working in the factory, and I always put gloves on when I'm throwing dirt in pots but it never seems to occur to me to put gloves on to handle raw cut lumber so I've got splinters for days. Me smart big brain.

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Was in my greenhouse yesterday and noticed my Dypsis sp. ambanja was really getting some size to it and starting to look pretty cool. To me it looks very similar to Dypsis leucomalla. I need to find a place to plant this guy ASAP! Anyone have a more mature plant you could show pics of?

We had several Palms planted at out home back in the summer and this has been my first experience with palms. After almost loosing the trees due to the company that planted the trees leaving allot of air pockets in the fill dirt I figured out how to solve the problem and overall the trees have done pretty well over the last few months. Now I have noticed some of the trees are showing yellowing on the tips and are looking a lighter green in color than before. Any suggestions on what the trees may need? Thanks in advance for suggestions.

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Will do. I just put all of them in a small bucket with several inches of water and nearly all are floating. This is the largest seed I have ever performed a float test on, so I'm not sure if it's too early to tell, if larger seeds are more prone to floating, or if this is indeed a bad sign. I will wait 24 hours to see if this changes.

Hello ! any update about this one ?

Now that you mention it @Merlyn, I've seen this happen when I pulled an "old" leaf base off of my Maypan when all but the last quarter inch of the leaf base was brown.

Something went horribly wrong with the smaller one. It probably had a skinny trunk like that when he bought it. It may have been left in a pot too long or something. I doubt it will ever look right. I would just yank it and throw it in the mulch pile. It probably takes away from your Dad's yard even having that one there. Foxtails are great palms IMO but touchy. You have to really ensure that you are buying a healthy one when you go and buy one somewhere.

I suspect soil is a big player. Fairchild, Miami West Maui(alkaline), couple hundred feet to the ocean

Currently, we have posted species list of 9 out of 10 vendors. I hope to receive the last list in days. There are some super rare palms and cycads for sale.

They live naturally in swamps, and acidic fertilizer (fish emulsion), acidic soil, can give pure filifera(from native groves)seedlings the "red". Infact, I can do the same with a young @aztropic palm(2-3 years old), turn the red on/off.

I’ve seen some of the storms hitting the east coast but you must have missed all of them. I haven’t needed to water anything in the landscape yet. It’s the latest I have been without resuming irrigation. I have irrigated the shadehouse a few times though. We’ve had rain on and off and no real heat.

I have Rhapis "Daruma" planted outside in Augusta, GA (zone 8b). It's been in the ground for 15 years. Every once in a while it will get knocked back to the ground, but it keeps coming back. I am growing in very sandy soil, so that might help a bit.

I've got some plans, and I'm learning a lot as I go. It's fun trying to do this on a virtual non existant budget, lol, but yeah. I do try. Crap, I swung a grow light at a palm tree on a busy street corner to knock down seeds. I bought a papaya and a dragon fruit just to get seeds to grow them. (Both tasted bland and basically like Styrofoam with a just a touch of artificial sweetener btw). But the indoor setup is def nicer. And thank you for all the compliments.

Whereabouts are you if you dont mind me asking?

Here is the same Clinostigma 16 years later.

Everything looks really good! The nice thing about Arizona even in an 8A zone is polar vortexes don’t make it that far west. I live in 8A west Texas and we are very susceptible to polar vortexes. All of those I have to grow in protected microclimates. I’m only brave enough to try med fans, sabals, trachys and needles.

I believe the winters are dry isn't it? Where I lived before was a 8a but it was raining during the day and freezes during the night, that makes a hell of a different.

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I definitely see similarities as I’m growing all 3 of these. But the black spotting on the petioles seems unique. So maybe these are somewhat related but still different. Here are some photo comparisons of different sized plants in my garden: Dypsis Ampasindavae: close up, white petiole but no black markings like Sp Ambanja: So Metallic (shade grown) sp Metallic (full sun) and for my Sp Ambanja photos, see the post above this one on this thread. I will say, from my limited experience, that the Sp Metallic is the slowest growing of these 3 and the petiole / new spear is green. For whatever that’s worth. PS. I think it’s also safe to throw the “Blue Vatovavy” into this group as well. I personally think that one is very similar to Ampasindavae, but I have only seen smaller, potted specimens.

I don't think dark Mealy bug. I have had lots over the years in my green house from Jeff M. and they all pretty much looked like these internet pictures and not Ambanja type. I also think its going to look more like the Dypsis ovobontsira type. I guess only time will tell on this one. I'll try to get side by side pictures to show how different they are.