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I wanted to start this thread to document myself and others’ plants so post if you got em. There wasn’t that many produced but they are out there. The “Lady Luck” Palm is a cross between Wodyetia Bifurcata x Veitchia Winin so the cousin to the well known Foxy Lady hybrid. I got the plant from Seabreeze / @Josh-O as a 1G a few years back and it’s the first time it was produced. Admittedly I did not plant it out for well over a year but this summer it has grown great and seems to be catching up for lost time. Ideal location in morning sun, watered and fed regularly. Here’s a few old pics along its journey as well as a recent. First pic planted out March 2024. Lets see em. -dale

my small garden is growing in! archontophoenix cunninghamiana, hedyscepe canterburyana, howea forsteriana, and dypsis baronii (can’t recall the new name) more is more!

Not a palm but rather some type of weedy grass.

I see room for more!

4 months later.. Here are pictures of my larger one. Nice red color from the leptocheilos father. Hoping to see some young pinnate leaves and a bit of fuzz soon

A nice winter surprise , the dwarf Papua New Guinea dwarf licuala. Iam very impressed with it surviving winter, and only getting 60cms tall the perfect understory palm. A real winner.

My Brahea

On Friday , I walked by my wee Kentiopsis (Chambeyronia) Pyroformis and the little guy opened a new frond after a year and a half. Honestly , I planted it perhaps too young but after seeing @DoomsDave ‘s I wanted to get it going. Dave assured me it will pick up speed , and I trust this is a sign🤞. The new frond , not quite red , but bronze looking. It is hard to see from the poor pic I took. It seems to like it’s home near my Chambeyronia Macrocarpa, plenty of shade and a bit of fractured sun. Harry I never thought I would get so excited about such little growth! I feel like Christmas, yay!

Of all the seeds in my garden, the small, red seeds are the most popular ones for the birds. In this case a pair of collared aracaris, and of course the squirrels, feeding on the seeds of P. elegans. (Nicaragua, Central america) WhatsApp Video 2025-10-06 at 7.56.42 AM.mp4

Couple of nice variegated rhapis pups recently taken and have tucked themselves in growing well.

Yep Howea fosteriana @Tyrone gets the gold star this week. Grown by the hundreds of thousands for the indoor market in Europe.

Looks like a Howea forsteriana.

My Carlsbad CA Clinostigma savoryanum just dropped a leaf, exposing an inflorescence. I think I recall this has bloomed previously.

I want to hear everyone’s opinion. I have these 3 Washingtonias that I planted in the spring and our loving their new homes in the ground with their mulch and lava rock insulation. I want to hear all opinions, I will send $1 to each person on Cash App that was right once spring comes back around. For a little bit of extra information they all survived a 29F night while still potted in February. The first one took no damage at all and the second two had very very slight browning damage that was all trimmed away and bounced right back. I live in Augusta, GA- Grovetown to be exact.

We all love our Ernie’s here in palm land. So why not a little group of say ten for of a bit of seed production, along with getting the garden a bit more tropical looking. No special treatment with this lot bring out the pick axe for this planting. Theres usually a reason why theres a gap in the garden, the reason is rocks and lots of them, so wherever I could drive the pick axe in that’s where they got planted. A thin layer of well composted mulch almost like rainforest soil. All I have to do is water and lots of it. So this little group shall be called gyuseppes patch!

Another fine group of chamaedoreas, 11 in total should see a bit of seed production in the years to come. They grow so well in my climate, I might as well make use of the understory!

Hi guys .... I bow to your superior knowledge and thank you for educating me. It would seem that all the palm seeds failed to germinate and I am left with some "grass" seedlings that were dormant in the moss used in the baggy method. Not an auspicious start but today I have ordered Pygmy Date Palm seeds from several UK based reputable sources and will try again once they arrive in St Helena. Given this lovely sub-tropical climate I am all the more determined to cultivate a few feature dwarf palms around the property. Wish me luck 🤪

I wanted to put in an unsolicited good word for both this lovely palm (that grows very well for me in Puerto Rico) AND for this seller. It is worth the drive to buy beautifully grown well priced palm treasures from Caribbean Palms.

Ok I just looked up some record lows by year for Augusta . I can assure you , unless your Robustas are highly Filifera leaning , that they aren't going to make it that long. Two to three 8a winters occur every decade in your area. That's going to be a tough challenge without protection to keep them alive. You'll be way better off with Sabal Palmettos , trachycarpus fortunei and sabal minor if you want to be sure .

Only time will tell . There's no guarantee for anything and that all depends on the palm's genetic. Augusta is in zone 8b that means Robustas aren't going to be your ideal palm if you look for a palm that you can enjoy for many decades ,unless yours share a large amount of Filifera genes . Since your palms are fairly young it's impossible to tell how well they will handle your winters at this moment Their true cold hardiness comes with age. I have one Robusta growing in the front yard for 3.5 years. It went through a few mid upper teens quite a few times during that time. Defoliated every single year so far but came back strong. Robustas cold hardiness is hard to determine while some might get killed in the mid teens some others can survive single digits . Over here in Texas we can say a lot of weak Robustas didn't survive temperatures below 15 degrees back in 2021 . It's going to be a hit or miss palm for you.

I reckon, even if they defoliate, they will grow back and be full again by this time next year. But lets wait and see what happens

If we have an average winter, they will defoliate in the low-20's, °F. Be prepared to wrap them. Christmas lights and bubble wrap. Watch the forecasts. Mid to late November, cut off the leaves and wrap.

Cohannon, Welcome to Palmtalk !

First impression - looks like crabgrass!😆🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

I agree.

You're going to have much slower growth keeping it potted, but I still think it's fun! Here's my double sprout coconut back in April 2021, and today. Of course growth rate and how quickly the fronds become fully pinnate are dependent on growing conditions. I keep mine pretty pot-bound and likely in too much shade so mine has grown quite slow.

I don't have pictures but about 25 years ago there was a larger property in Morehead city, N.C. ,on the coast, where there were about 6 huge southern live oaks, very noticeable and spectacular as you came into the city. A convenience store chain bought the land and cut all of them down to place the store, which they did not have to do as there was room for it to fit in. I vowed to never spend a penny at that store. One time a few years later I was passing by and ran out of gas and as the road is curbed had no where to pull off except there. I coasted into position at one of the gas pumps and bought $1.00 of gas! When I left I drove a 1/4 mile farther and filled my tank at another store. And no I have never spent money there again.

Well the last one worked so well, I thought I'd try another! These are palms that I am trying to ID so I can determine water needs, and in some cases relocate or remove surrounding vegetation. This little one is about 3-4 feet high at the crown. It was badly underwatered several years ago, then given an overabundance of water for the past 8 or so, while the nearby umbrella tree tried to crowd it out. The new leaves stay connected at the ends of the fronds, giving the newly unfurling frond a curly look I tried to capture. Old dead fronds hold on pretty tightly to the trunk. The trunk has a slight curve at the base, where it bellies out a bit in the downhill direction. It seems to thrive in fairly wet soil. Santa Barbara, CA.

thallo, Too much is just enough ! Ha-Ha, if you want to see a really congested garden come over for a visit sometime !

I like the way you think, standard visiting hours, oddities. You’re a man with a vision and I can see that vision now, all my palms in a shipping container or two headed to the good old US of A California here we come. And with such exotic locations as Santa Paula it sounds even better. But yes it does have a bit of a lime green trunk look I noticed that, the next leaf that opens I will be definitely looking closer at it and see what is really going on. Richard

Why stop plant more palms. A true gardener never stops planting. And the palm bug has bitten you the only cure is plant more palms.

Couple of nice ones there, an easy palm to grow and lots of eye candy with Ernie’s. The large fishtail shaped leaves are beautiful. I might have to pot a few up for the retail market nursery I sell to, that and some lytocarum weddlianum the gardening world love them. Richard

Thanks for the information JD! So, here’s a picture of the other one. Completely different looking in my opinion, but also very hardy and very beautiful. This one definitely has a bit more affinity with V. joannis. The stem and the petioles are this awesome chocolate brown, sort of fading into yellow, where the leaflets attach. Just a beautiful plant.

A big thank you to everyone who made the meeting a success. Even with a few folks canceling for various reasons, attendance exceeded the number on the RSVP list and was probably an all-time record. We had two former IPS Presidents there to address the group about the benefits of IPS membership and attending the IPS tours and four different vendors offering unique palms and palm companion plants for sale with availability and prices big box stores can't touch. The attendees spanned an area from south Georgia to Key West and all points in-between. As we continue to adapt as a society, this is a sign that we're on track. A few photos and a video from the host of the first site and his daughter-in-law are shared below: Board Member Introduction Team Photos (2) Host Intro Video Tour https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MYJKORTvc5Mi52Z_4kTVhwMoiFlHDuRH/view?usp=sharing A special shout to the following attendees who also contribute on PalmTalk: @kinzyjr@PalmJuan@Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)@Fishinsteeg234@chuckg@SW_FL_Palms@carlosinkw@SubTropicRay@Midnight Gardener@RiverCityRichard@flplantguy@Plantking165@Keybmp@Scott W@howfam@PalmBossTampa@D. Morrowii@MikeB@Maddox Gardening-youtube@rick If we missed you, don't be too shy to pop in and say hello. If you have photos from the meeting, please post them here. Our next meeting is tentatively scheduled for Saturday, December 6th, 2025 at The Garden of Rob Branch in Sarasota, FL. More details to follow momentarily.

Heterospathe negrosensis- red new leaves- about 36- $18. Copernicia macroglossa - 25 seedlings $25. Dypsis psammophila -40 seedlings -$20. Aiphanes minima- 30- $15. Pinanga speciosa (purple crown shaft)-13 seedlings $12. Allagoptera arenaria-30- $15 Also-my friend was able to bring back some extra Kerriodoxa seeds in luggage. $1.50 each Plus Shipping, Spaghum, box or Padded Envelope. Beachpalms@cfl.rr.com

This macrocarpa at first threw out red leaves. Now for the past 10 years no red leaf, it slowly began to lose its colourful leaves over time and now just a green leaf. It’s a mystery to me. So what’s going on is it something that always happens? Or just a mutant!

Well winter is finished time to clean out the losers in the zone push department. The labels speak for themselves. No winners in this lot!

No idea specifically, but watermelons in nature are basically desert plants, and desert plants will often have seeds capable of quite long periods of dormancy, although 7 years might be pushing it. On the other hand, you could just buy a watermelon, eat it and get fresh seeds anyway...

This key might help, although worth noting it’s based on descriptions from habitat. In cultivation the are generations of Chambeyronia and I suspect there’s now a bit of a spectrum of traits out there.

So it’s possible then there is a green form true to type, lacking in anthocyanins.

Yep , not a palm. A couple of examples of different palm seedlings ( they can vary a lot ) Harry Washingtoni Robusta potted up , showing a singular stem , like a Phoenix Roebelini would have , with strap leaf shape initially. Chrysalidiocarpus Decipiens seedling . I hope this helps a bit . Again , palms can vary but your Pygmy date palm would start out similar to these examples. Harry

Hey, I just ordered these "mystery"-palms from ebay. The seller told me that he collected the seeds on vacation in brazil. He said, that the motherplant had a bottle-like stem that was thick on the ground and got thinner at the top. The picture with the red markings shows a similar palm but the motherplant had an even thicker stem he said. To me the seedlings, especially the seeds, look more like dypsis lutescens, but they do not get a bottle-like stem. Do you have an idea what species it could be? Thanks a lot for your answers!

Great looking garden . Maybe plant some understory palms , if you haven’t already. Harry

Wow, those look great!

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Don't stop! Get it! Get it!

Hey Dale, totally agree. I was just thinking there might be some variation on these hybrids if that’s indeed what they are. So the second palm shown, if it’s not a hybrid, is a total mystery to me. Even though I’m not in the ideal part of the world to grow Veitchia, i’ve looked at enough different species within the genus, so I’m definitely thinking hybrid. Your suspicion that Phil got those seeds from JD is probably accurate.

I am not sure about anything with tied up fronds and lower stem partly submerged. It bears some traits, that do not comply with typical dactylifera such as the perpendicularly spreading acanthophylls and the very short pseudopetiole. However dactylifera is a very common sp and therefore the most probable possibility.