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Faster growing, literally 3 times the speed of a purebred, yet still maintains the short petiole/tight leaf spacing that makes it a good palm choice for a small yard. Shorter fibers, but still a looker that grows trouble free and is drought tolerant. These flower multiple times per year,but to produce viable seed,it has to happen when our temperatures are lower than 95F. Early spring and late fall flowerings are almost always successful.👍 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Great pictorial on these palms . It looks like “ B “ is going to be a silver / green one. Harry

One of my favorite Coccothrinax species, these guys stay small and petite for quite a while. Almost maintenance free. A homeowners dream that will take full Arizona sun and is drought tolerant to boot. Would be MUCH more commonly planted if only they weren't so slow to produce. Here's a pic of one of my mature trees getting ready to flower for the first time. Fingers crossed for viable seeds.🤞😄 Also,one of my trees I grew from seed in a 5 gallon pot. Quick way to tell the purebreds from hybrids on this species is that the fiber sheath will be almost as long as the emerging spear. Hybrids grow shorter fiber,and cover less than half of the emerging spear.🌴 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Yes, Richard, and I'm completely ignorant of the more tropical species. But Rupicola is different from the other phoenix species, and it's beautiful! This one shouldn't be missing from your collection.

No offence taken I will stick with my tropicals. Phoenix have never been on my wish list. There for the cold climate growers, and there spiney things that bite you even when there long dead in the compost heap.

Yep that’s an elegans, we got plenty of them down under!

Hey Bret, I think you nailed the P. elegans ID. I found an old map from the local palm society who supplied most, if not all, palms for the mall plantings. There were only three Ptychosperma landscape species listed, P. elegans, macarthurii, and salomenense. P. macarthurii and salomenense have prominent terminal leaflets, elegans does not, hence I believe you have the right identification. Tim

I really had to dig around to find photos. Never did find a pic of the one out front that is gaining in size. First, a photo from 7/2023 of Small, Medium and Large (planted 7/2015 from 1-gal.) growing in the very back jungle, see if you can find them! 😄 Below, view from the opposite direction of Small: Next, photo of the double C. titans, germinated in 2015, planted 5/2020: I have given away a few that I germinated, spreading the love in Leilani Estates! One thing to note, if you are growing this palm, it can take some time for the tip of a new spear to become visible, to the extent that you begin to wonder if something is wrong with the palm. Be patient, the next spear will eventually appear.

I have a lot of container palms and Butia is one of my favorites. The day to day might be slow but they're pretty steady throughout the whole year, even when the unforgiving heat causes other plants to halt, struggling to survive. This progress over time is enjoyable. Summer 2022 I pick up this pair of young pindos from my favorite local nursery. There are no clear winners in the lot so I just grab two without much thought. In hindsight, I think I should have paid a little more attention to whether the arch in the leaf twists sideways. I don't know if they keep certain characteristics their whole lives or not, but so far these have and I prefer one to the other. The staff says they grew them from seed and if memory serves, they are at this point 2 or 3 years old. We’ll call this one A. It’s a little more wispy than B, and it will maintain that trait for at least the next few years, maybe always. This one we’ll call B. It has a more compact crown than A. It may be hard to tell from this photo but it will become apparent with new fronds. Summer 2023 One year in. The trunks have about doubled in diameter but height remains roughly the same. During spring they are moved into tall pots where they can bake in the sun from first light to last. To my surprise, those barrel pots are already full of roots so I have to do some cutting and shoving but I finally get the round peg stuffed into the square hole. For a while, A looks a bit droopy after the upgrade but those new spears keep coming anyway. Unfortunately, I do a bad job eyeballing the amount of dirt for the pot upgrade. B sinks and I don't want to rough it up anymore so I let it be for a couple years. After taking these 2023 pics I chop a lot of lower fronds off. There are some dark blotches on the stems that don't seem to affect anything, but why take a chance? While cutting them apart I realize they'll end up looking like the Game of Thrones chair if I use regular loppers instead of a reciprocating saw. And I really don’t want that! So I decide to make the cuts vertical, as close to the trunk as comfortable. 2024 The pindos have kicked into gear and are putting on a little more height. They're thicker. During April I bring home a mule from the same nursery that's bone dry and very leggy. It's only just making its first split leaf. Turns out it’s going to be a rocket. Here they are at Christmas, starting to look more appealing. A B Summer 2025 Earlier in the year I was away for a couple weeks and a handful of potted Sabals lost their fronds for lack of water. Were the butia affected? They don't show it! Now they are pushing multiple spears at once. A first for these two. As the trunk diameter increases some of the lowest leaf bases split in half. No fronds have been trimmed this year but it's tempting every time I mow the lawn. A B The mule is already reaching higher than the pindos at maybe half the age.

A couple of some exotics in my collection fit for any garden, with winter just about over it’s time to start potting up, so the exotics in tubes will be on my list jobs to do. The new tubes i didnt want to pot up last summer autumn. I would rather let them grow through winter in the tubes they came in, then repot in spring, summer. The old saying do not repot prior to winter!

Ok yes. I'm serious. I spent some literal pocket change on a grow bulb. I'm having pretty good luck with some 2/$10 Sansi LEDs off of Amazon, and this company (Phlizon) has some ok reviews for anything manufactured after around 2023, so why not take a shot and see what $1.01 gets you shipped to your door. The photos don't do it any justice, just not in the way you're thinking. If I could find the photographer/editor they did, my plants would all sell and I'd have women lined up around the block. Of course they'd all be disappointed in the end, but anyway - on to the review. So me and Sancho take a leisurely stroll down to the mailbox after he checks on the kittens and pees a couple times, and there's a nondescript white bubble mailer. It definitely doesn't feel large enough to hold a lightbulb. Sancho pees a few more times, and then I bring him back inside and pass him back off to Mom since she has an air conditioner in her window. Finally, I'm alone with my precious little bundle of joy. What wonders of technology can possibly be packed into such a tiny package? I tear open the bubble mailer with the same level of excitement one can only compare to a text message from their boss, and inside is another discreet white envelope, marked only with a barcode. By now, my heart is racing. Actually that's a health problem, my resting heart rate is 95bpm which seems to concern my cardiologist about as much as the weather in Bucharest concerns me, but anyway I tear open the second envelope wondering what wonders await. It's a smushed little box! It's maybe 1"x1.5"x1". Your average Timex wristwatch comes in a larger box. Let's see what's inside, as I can feel my plants giddy with anticipation. No lens, just straight exposed LEDs. Actually I find the heatsink very attractive in the directional pattern it's machined in, and it does have a lightbulb base attached to it. All of this for the insane auction price of just $1.01? What a steal! Since my OG ghetto floor lamp grow bulb setup is still here, and all of my other bulbs are kinda warm right now, let's fire this bad boy up and see what it does! Wow, just remarkable. Look at that. It shines just as bright into my phone's camera as my TV remote control does. (Seriously, if your TV remote is IR and it's not acting right, your phone's camera is a good way to test it). All of this light output for just $1.01? All of my palms will be trunking in no time. I'll have no choice but to move to a tropical paradise now, and I can with all the money I saved from buying so-called "higher end" and "real" grow lights. In conclusion, it was $1.01 shipped to my door and as of this post my house hasn't burned down. And since McDonald's did away with the $1 drinks, what else can you buy with a dollar these days? I don't know, but it cost more to ship this thing from China and mail it to me than $1, but at least now I've got 2 bubble mailers and a tiny box.

Butia do really well in pots even long term. They're pretty variable too - I grew a Butia from a very silver mother. It stayed green throughout its life. I've noticed my Butia and mule both have worked on widening their girth first before going vertical. Yours are definitely working on the root system! 😃

Update to this guy after another year and 1/2 from last post. Doing good. Let’s see some updates. -dale

Just keep him walking around the garden, get sancho to be your gardening buddy, and create that oasis sancho has in his mind you’re just his gardener. You must have enough palms to harden off and start planting them around your yard.

Yes I know the Royals you are talking about. They are still there, check the intersection at Westwood blvd and International dr, right near SeaWorld. If you have time, Leu Gardens near downtown Orlando is the best palm viewing we have here in the Orlando area. Highly recommend. Anther good spot for some big royals is the intersection of Westpointe Blvd and Lake Vilma Dr. in Orlando’s Metrowest area. The Orange County Convention Center also has some nice palms around the property. If you’re interested in any seedlings to take home, including royals, let me know I live in Longwood just north of town. enjoy your trip! -Alex

There is a cut of point with purchasing prior to winter especially bare rooted palm!

My hookeri flower but seeds set yet they will one day, hookeri I will say throw a more brighter red. Macrocarpa more scarlet red, either way there both beautiful. Ricgard

Before things really got hot this year I removed the pots to backfill and raise the soil level. All my palms in tall pots fill the entire space with roots, but the mule was already circling at just a year in!

Agree, not rupicola. I’d say P dactylifera likely.

Just stand back and throw them in wherever they land is fine there easy Howea.

A nice little box of a few palms hydriastele kasesa an intresting varietie. Some licuala spinosa, a few trees polyathia longifolia, 30 Chambeyronia hookeri for the garden, they will be used as pioneer palms. And a few of my joeys just for a bit of fun. The garden will have a few more to plant out in a few years time. A little bit of osmocote slow release fertiliser was used, I just top dress a pinch on top of the soil and then just poke it in the soil so it doesn’t get washed out when I water. All in all a bit of afternoon fun after work.

Thank you I think my one will be fine. It’s in a protected spot.

Geonoma interrupta, gifted to me a few years ago from ‘mike in kurtistown’, a vigerous grower. Tim

So far, G Princeps has grown as planned. With vertical tending fronds that stay out of the way at this size. Pretty happy and easy, with the tips of the fronds about 9 feet tall now. Blight spots mentioned above seem to have mostly gone away on their own.

……and over 5yrs of a stalled thread, I’m going to bring it back to life! Let’s see your H. Indica out there. Mine has been a rocket! Pictures are not even 3yrs apart. Planted out at the end of 2022 as a Floribunda 1G H Indica Red variety. It grows amazingly fast but only keeps 3 leaves before the oldest looks terrible. Admittedly it’s too close to the rock edging but oh well. -dale

7 gal. Tree pot, cutting from my mother plant. $150 obo.

What´s the longest wait you have had to germinate trachycarpus princeps seeds? I actually abandonned these seeds and used the pot to stick and propagate cuttings of other random stuff. Maybe that influenced the dormant seeds?¿ Trade EU only

Sounds like how I feel about winter temps

Thanks Kim! Your look great and are at that size where they only start speeding up

So time to give this one a bump since this is about "Dypsis" saint lucei. Dippy, or should I now call you "Chrysy", were any of those one gallons what we now call a Chrysalidocarpus saint lucei put in your garden and still growing? I was out looking at mine which is probably about 5-6 years younger than yours and noting how much it resembles another Dypsis/Chrysalidocarus, specifically Chrysalidocarpus basilongus. Both share the trait that C basilongus was named after, specifically those long basal leaves hanging down. Any of the other folks that posted in this thread about theirs back 15 years ago, are you getting viable seed off them? Tim, I suspect you are and I kind of recall seeing Bill Austin's when I visited a couple of years back, which again I expect have been a seed source for many plants in trade now. Mine flowered last year, but didn't develop viable seed, they were all very tiny when they dropped off the inflorescence. Just another observation on the discussion, I have found that these love my full sun on the coast, and the other one in the shade has a trunk diameter about half the girth or maybe a little less at similar ring counts.

I was about to give up on them, I had no idea about how long they would take, checked on them and got a surprise. Bottom heating set at 30 degrees Celsius, but winter gave fluctuations of 25 degrees Celsius lows, coco coir perlite in a deep styrofoam box with a lid. Good luck patience with these one’s!

That's insane for a Sabal Minor in a year. What are you feeding that thing?

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Yes. Copernicia cowellii. I collected the seeds in Cuba myself in 2014, so those trees are already 10 years old. Slow growers that seem very much like a miniature version of macroglossa. 🌴 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

He's taking 2 kinds of pills and what I think has helped the most is the glucosamine and hemp treats. He hates them so I have to crush them like pills and mix them into his wet prescription food. His vet diagnosed it as a partial ligament tear but he's running around and full of energy again.

Oh as I said to my mother Jodie is a keeper, I won’t let her go!

Hey I'm growing one of those here. I mean, sure it's inside, but I am growing it 😂

A nice Pinanga disticha complete leaf got my attention, not just for its beauty but for the fact it survived winter and temperatures down to 3 degrees Celsius, iam impressed!

Be careful with ChatGPT. I uploaded a landscape map and asked it what to add to the landscape and it told me to consider Cyrtostachys renda. 🤦‍♂️

Beautiful tree. In my cool 9b Mediterranean climate they suffer when the temperature goes close to 32F and they are definitely zone 10. I have one in a pot but never in my wildest dreams would I think of putting it in the ground. I guess in Florida they will be a bit more forgiving. Best of luck.

@Than read this https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/62230-successful-treatment-of-pink-rot-in-palms/

A new frond for my Roystonia Oleracae , first of the year . A bit of a zone push for me . Thank you to Palm Talk for the help with this palm when it was just hanging in there a couple years ago. More watering and a bit of organic with mulch and the fronds are much larger . Last year this palm pushed 4 fronds , progressively getting larger , thicker! Harry Blue sky framing the plumose foilage.

great project. keep a close eye on the temperatures/weather, so you can always react and install protection early when it gets to that time of year again, that's what we always do, or try to do as well as possible 😊 it's wonderful that it has already formed a stem. continued success

We have more blue sky than you can poke a stick at in Australia.

Satakentia liukiuensis:

Recently in southern Switzerland Locarno

Chamaedorea elatior. Germinated April 2018 17th October 2023 just beginning climbing phase. About 1-1-2m (3-4’ tall) Today (less than 17 months later). About 3-3.5m / 10-12’ tall.

Here is mine after today’s rain: