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Found an old picture of the greenhouse during construction and the saintlucei has certainly grown with a bit of grower attention and even flowered since that time. How time flies when you’re having fun!

The old plumosa is in flower again, aka fakey. Sold originally as ambositrae in Australia when it was first introduced about 30 years ago. A super tough dypsis this one dry tolerant cool tolerant and grower tolerant! I do get viable seeds that are a very nice looking seedling. Easy to grow and germinate.

They do like dry feet. They come from granite rock country and the best ones I have seen in my garden are in with huge rocks making up part of there landscape and in between sandstone pockets. They love heat and sunshine. If your palm is planted correctly it shouldn’t have any reason to sink. They will sulk after planting but come good in a season once they get up and going. Good luck with your new palm.

Sorry folks. Here's is nana

@Matt in OC I am leaving it in the hands of @DoomsDave. I will try a few here just for fun . I have a pretty fertile garden that sprouts seeds from time to time. Did you see the seedlings on the Mound Street side when you were there? Harry

It may not like the heat there . They can take short heat spells but want cool night temps like here and along the coast . Our high temps are only occasional , similar to @Jim in Los Altos . I am hoping for success. Harry

@Mazat Careful , yes but I have those moments with lapses of reasonable safety. I am safe and careful most times but that mischievous boy in me surfaces occasionally. Harry

Last seasons seed!

Rhopies also move pretty easily when they're small, ie pre trunking. I've probably dug up twenty, preparing for the move to the new garden. Trunking sized I'm sure could be a different kettle of fish. One day I'll post a list of all the palms I've dug up and moved, so it can be entered in the permanent record books of absolute gardening stupidity!

Ehhh. I wanted to say I don't post a lot of personal stuff on here, but I guess I kind of do, at least a little bit. But this one's kind of a big deal, and I didn't even realize it until I glanced at my phone in the middle of some family drama - but today marks 15 months since I've had a drink. I'm not putting that on here to seek praise or attention or anything, but I'm putting it out here to thank all of y'all for the donations, the advice, the knowledge, the pictures of your gardens, the pictures of your pets, and the personal conversations. I'm not saying it's everything, but it's helped. So thank you to all of y'all, and thank you to the mods and the IPS for building this community for all of us. Ok, that's enough sappy stuff. Let me see if I can go find another conversation to derail 😂

Nice looking Dypsis Plumosa , Richard . I love how the seedlings have that color. Harry

Foxtails are a very common garden plant where I live so I only have two here due to lack of space. (one was actually purchased as fishtail species or I would only have one planted) Planting them when they are large like the one in your photo, always gave me problems but putting in the ground when they are only 30 cm high were problem free. They grow so quickly here that planting them small they are soon the size of yours and settle in without any drama. I found that after a couple of years I have to add more soil as the roots seem to push them upwards. Of course these are just my personal observations that may or may not be helpful. Peachy

I remember when every second Dypsis changed names on a monthly basis, if it ever had a confirmed name to begin with. It got so confusing that I turned on the whole genera and wouldn't even look at a palm for sale if it had Dypsis on the label. My aversion lasted until I moved house actually, silly in hindsight as I might have had some spectacular potted palms to bring with me. After my D leptocheilos (teddy bear) grew so quickly and looked so gorgeous, I revised my opinion and now have a few Dypsis in the shade house, including a pretty D plumosa I bought at the palm show in March. Yours look huge, I never knew they got that big but as I will be dead and gone by the time mine is that size I am planting it regardless. Peachy

Here’s some in San Diego.

Shes not a nana! And I cloud has your pictures?

So, here ya go, check out this M. madagascariensis at Floribunda. Snapped this last weekend and don’t really know how old it is, but 20+ years might be too conservative. Tim

@James B I have seen a couple of palms sink not too long after planting. I attributed it to just being in sandy soil that wasn't compacted. There are a few palms that pull themselves down into the ground. I think Copernicia and Corypha do, and maybe some others. Either way, your plan seems reasonable to me! Slightly too high can reduce growth rate, but slightly too low can mean trunk rot. If rot is a risk with your soil, too high is always safer!

I love the idea of zone pushing and currently keep a triple bottle palm under my gazebo. It has happily acclimated to its new environment in the high desert of San Bernardino County( I think it loves the heat). I was super surprised to see so many new spears being pushed since moving it in almost two months ago.

Good for you, John. I quit drinking about 12 years ago and it was easily one of the best decisions I've made and continue to make. Sending you some positive energy.

I was there a few weeks ago and took some seeds from the ground but don't think I'll have luck. Let us know how yours do!

A hotel I stayed at in Cayo Coco,Cuba actually did make use of the wild local palms for their landscaping. There were easily over a hundred rescued Pseudophoenix sargentii planted all around the property and roadways of the area. Lots of wild ones too as soon as you started hiking in the natural areas. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

I have been waiting most of the year for the seeds at Sullivans garden , yes …those huge Decipiens . A trip over there last week told me it was finally time! There were about 20 seeds that had already fallen but were green. My good friend Terry doesn’t live there any more but keeps a house next door . In the rare chance of running into him I decided to knock. I had already been given permission by he and Sevan both but , didn’t feel right just taking them. Terry was there! I showed what I had picked up and he said that they were ripe! They don’t change color like other palm seeds. After looking at all the fruit on the palm he said they are ready for harvest “ take all you want”. Music to a palm collectors ears. I went today and climbed up the ladder to get a few more . I had already picked up the ones on the ground as I was being pelted on the head with more. I was also given permission to take the seedling volunteers that were sprouting up from last year. They came up easily , seed still attached and not root damage . The soil was very easy to work with and these don’t have much root to them when they are small. Harry The parent palm ( one of two), full of fruit! Seedlings from my first visit. Harry

After losing another foxtail I planted earlier this year I decided to plant a new Wodyetia about 3-4” above the soil line. The previous one I planted a bit below soil line and after noticing for 4 months the spear was frozen and the open leaves died back I inspected and it broke off at the base. I concluded it was getting too much water and some rot occurred. So I put down about 2” of grow mulch above the soil then added another 2” of stone. I’ve read that palms will sink into the soil in the months after planted is that accurate?

At four years it should have a pinnate leaf or two. Maybe rabbits gave this one a hurricane cut.

If what appears to be a trunk, my question is what happened to all the fronds? I can't imagine a 4 year old butia that small. It should at least have a number of fronds/leaves.

One doesn’t think of palms when the word Guantanamo bay is mentioned! - How true, Richard

Thanks for sharing. Great pictures, Ben.

I have lost these- in the past . Most of the folks I know in my area that have them plant more than one for this reason. I have two small ones now that are growing slowly but look happy. The ones that make it look great for the most part , but it is hit and miss. Good luck , that is a beauty . I had one for over 8 years that was very nice with about 6’ of trunk below the crown and then , one year , started not looking happy . I tried everything and after a few years of a sick palm in front of my house , I cut it down. Harry

@Harry’s Palms sounds like you had a great time...hopefully I can get one of these palms soon...would like to see how it does here in the Bakersfield dustbowl. 💪

Mine sits in it's little pot and laughs at me. I think I will take the risk soon and plant it as soon as the little visitors go back home. Hopefully in a couple of weeks it will be warm enough to start feeding the plants again. Getting a good supply of nutrients and warmer weather sends everything off on a growth spurt. I want to get the fish pond up and running before spring too as it has been in the construction stage for 3 years now. There is a large depression in the soil behind the pond that gets a bit boggy so I am taking the plunge and planting my Carpentaria palm there. It seem to be raining all over sth east Qld but none of it is landing so I am running the sprinklers daily until the dry spell breaks. Peachy

I would love one too and at least we know it will be cold hardy !

Oh no. Yes, those ladders... Even with the fruit trees at my father-in-law's house, even though it's flat, it's still dangerous. If possible, we secure ourselves and one person holds the ladder. But sometimes you're alone in the garden ...

Indeed they are, 25 years in my garden and I have only seen one for sale over those years! Iam sure there out there and available but you will have to look! Richard

They don’t get any better than being in a heated conservatory in a subtropical climate! Richard

She’s a cracker that one, I somehow don’t think my ones will get to that size in 20 years in my climate, wishful thinking but it ain’t going to happen. Your spoilt for choice having florabunda down the road! Richard

They sell faster in a mass seeded community pot an old nursery sales trick, buyers just a pretty little fern looking plant, most probably wouldn’t even know it’s a palm. So sad for the elegans outdone by its popularity. Richard

What happened to the nurse for you and sancho you forgot to add that to your wish list! And as for the rest of your wish list I can relate to that!

Harlingen Today:)

A few years time and more will go in the ground, I have some real special palms that I only have 2or 3 of these are the ones iam wanting to plant so I keep the good spots for them, to many decisions and to many palms! Richard

Yer I just go to the greenhouse and pick something out, yhe problem is I have so many and I want to save those spots that are special gor all the special palms, who would have thought having to many palms would be a problem 🤣

Nice haul of precious seeds . Free palms as I say! Harry

Much better it seems!

That's a very beautiful palm in my opinion and I'm sure others agree with me. One thing I would like to get off my shoulder and I have noticed that over the years in this forum. It doesn't matter if a palm is palmate or pinnate. Both are beautiful. It's not a competition. I'm not jealous of someone who lives in South Florida who has to deal with hurricanes , major floods , increasing cost of living , the same with Southern California. Too many natural disasters occur at these places and they become more unaffordable for the average Joe. I'm blessed that I can grow palms at my location . Windmill palms look gorgeous in moderate climates and your palms Sir , are not less worth looking at than a coconut. Just keep that in mind.

I personally think theyd be more like a Rhopalostylis to move having a tillering root. If they’ve got any trunk I’d be taking the biggest scoop of soil your equipment can physically lift.

They’re very healthy.

I could only imagine the one at florabunda, and if they grow slow in Hawaii heaven help my one in the subtropical climate. I take it there a shade palm? Richard

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