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I stopped by my previous home in Roseburg Oregon to check in on the palms I planted. So glad to see the new owners kept all of them, even though they did remove a 50ft sequoia. You can't see them from the road, but I got some pics from our old neighbors house. They were all planted around 2011 and were probably 5 gal at the time. Butia sp.? Glad to see this looking so good, I covered it a couple times when it was young, but the new owners haven't protected it at all. Even after a couple hard winters, all the fronds are still green. I would guess that's around 5 years of fronds, which would be about the time we sold the house. Chamaerops humilis Row of 6 Trachys, tallest is close to 20' and shortest is below the fence. Other angle.

Out front this morning Sabal causiarum Saba guatemalensis Bismarckia

I assumed that westerhoutii might be too tropical for our area, but I could be wrong. Any possibility it could be micrantha?

A nice little batch for the garden starting with, licuala corneri, licuala PNG dwarf, dypsis “CLBS”,Zamia standelyi, anthurium palenquense a rare one, and a anthurium lineolatum that should do until the next fix of growing goodies. And with winter underway it’s time to get the cool tender ones and some of the new ones in a protected environment. There will be some losers but it’s the winners iam more intrested in being a zone pusher , I will find some new cool tolerant plants that one wouldnt have thought about purchasing.

I’m doing a remodel and I’m now working on the kitchen so I’ve kinda ee-victed myself from it to an outside space with profane tank etc, damn almost don’t care about fixing the house, just stay out here. So maybe you’ve got a Palm Cave? If so show us!

John, Feral cats ? You need coyotes !

Whatever that one is @quaman58 I’m pretty sure I’ve got two. I think micrantha too.

Having a wee break in the yard is definately a MAN thing. I prefer to make the effort and use the facilities indoors. Piddle free Palms Peachy

More of a tree fern cave I guess View from cave

A fantastic Australian palm that deserves more attention in the garden. Cool tolerant shade loving understory palm, that’s easy to grow. Even i have missed the boat in these ones in the garden with only one mature specimen. Sidetracked by other more tropical exotics from overseas. I do know one thing they look fantastic in a grove in the rainforests. So it might be time I got the shovel out and planted a few dozen in a group. A palm that is native to my area 20 minutes drive away, seeds by the thousands if I want them. Yet a little rare in some country’s, I might have to get a few seeds out there to a few growers I think!

Hey all, I was wandering around my neighbors yard and noticed this Arenga. Forgive the picture; it’s in a difficult place and the lighting wasn’t great. But it’s a spectacular palm, with fronds pushing 20’ in length. I’m sure it was originally from Floribunda, so it’s probably a less common one. I know there’s a lot of this genus that are pretty tropical in their needs, but this one seems as happy as a clam. Any thoughts as to the species?

@Xenon I have to disagree on the Alfredii...sure they are not identical but they are very similar. The leaflet shape is very similar with the inverted V, the petioles and leaflets drape and curve the same way, the petioles have a similar light tan tomentum, etc. There's also variation within Cocos, some are narrower leaflets, some with more or less petiole curve or leaflet drape, some with deep green and some yellow petioles, and a whole lot of them with perfectly straight trunks. Where they definitely differ is in scale (Alfredii is maybe 50% bigger in all dimensions) and in cold hardiness. In my area Cocos are an extreme rarity, with only 5 or 6 known ones in the Orlando area. I tried small ones here and both got torched and died with the first winter's frost around 30F. Alfredii took 24.4F with frost and less than 50% leaf damage one winter, and looked great again by mid-April. Another winter saw repeated snow-like frosts in the upper 20s and one weekend with 20+ hours under freezing...and my 5 big ones took minimal leaf tip burn. The below one saw 4 or 5 frosts in the low to mid 30s over this winter...and had zero damage. Unprotected Cocos in the same situation would be mostly or completely defoliated. A Cocos would then look ugly for at least half the year, where the Alfredii looks great in the middle of January. I think most people (especially most non-palmaholics) would agree these two are quite similar: Alfredii certainly have a denser, more lush crown. The above is a bit more sparse and the leaflets more rigid. Maybe Alfredii looks a bit more like a slightly broader-leafed version of a Maypan: And without knowing that one is from Palmpedia and one from my yard, these leaflets are very similar: The leaf shape, light yellow midrib, inverted V, ripply nature, draping tops, even the insertion point is very similar. The Cocos has a broader width at the insertion point, and the petiole in this case is yellow vs medium green. Otherwise....

Great 🤗 Here from the south of Switzerland Ticino

RGV 10a sounds like they will do well there, as well as in 9b/10a florida I expect. A great palm for uplights on the crown a night, maybe the best reflecting palm at night. And the white color is rarely matched in the palm kingdom. The fruits on the females(like mine) are quite messy though and they drop 2-3 times a year here. Have not seen them with lethal bronzing here, but sick ones are readily attacked and killed by weevils. I had (2) one was rapidly killed by weevils 5 years ago. Good luck!

@JohnAndSancho keep in mind that Rev x Diannan is a fairly big plant. Diannanensis gets ~8 foot long fronds and is one of the hardier Cycas. It's one of my favorite hybrids, I have 6 in the ground from @Scott W. My biggest isn't quite mature sized yet, but I'm guessing it'll get into the ~12' diameter range. Mine have been fairly tolerant of water, living fine in the wet SE corner or in the drier NE and NW corners of my lot. I'd avoid putting the caudex under the dripline of the roof from either rainstorms or the morning dew drops. Fronds under the dripline are probably just fine. You just don't want water pouring directly onto the caudex every time it rains and every morning.

Nice one you could remove the stakes and tie it loosely to the fence if it’s strong enough just to stop it falling over, if the stakes are unsightly just for astettic reason. I would leave it stacked just to let it really tuck itself in, if it’s in a really windy place. I dont know if there will be a next time you transplant such a large palm but a square rootball in a square planting hole is the way to go next time I have been told you dont even have to stack in a square hole. The round root ball tends to roll around.

On the contrary westerhoutii is cold hardier than pinnata due to the higher altitude of its habitat. Seeing the fronds alone I am inclined too towards the above sp , but the stem does not match, because it lacks those spine-like black fibers. Instead trunk reminds a lot those widespread specimens thought to be micrantha, but they also do not comply fully with the description of latter sp. Perhaps a hybrid?

My guess arenga westerhoutii.

Are you sure it’s white sage smoke thats the wonderful feeling 🍁🤪 Richard

Luke iam your father!!! You have done well son!!

I will smash them rats if that’s the case. Yes I was told they want a hot sunny place I got plenty of that around my place.

Mine hasn’t been too slow. Planted 5.5 years ago from an advanced seedling stage. Basically bulletproof in my climate; barely a brown tip or any other imperfection. There are many planted at the Melbourne Botanic Gardens that date back to the 1800s. I’m still in awe when I see them.

As long as he doesn’t kill them, knowing his track record!🤣 Richard

lol I ripped out a straggler queen for a silk floss 😝😝

About a month later and the flush is almost full size but has not hardened off or set it's full blue color yet.

Just hit the rain lottery! 0.5" all in a 15 minute afternoon tropical downpour 😍 The rainy season seems to be delivering... right around 20 inches for the year so far. Hoping to hit or exceed the long term annual average of 50 inches this year

I had to like 2 years ago 😭 My dog kept getting near it and poking himself on it so I trimmed it.

You need to go down south and look at the fat south TX bizzies, not the sad looking ones in Htown 😄. Sorry Beccariophoenix alfredii looks like an AI-generated generic "palm tree" from a video game to me haha. B. madagascariensis or whatever the "windows" form is called now is more attractive especially when immature. The non-windows form has a more upright and less dense crown that arguably looks more like a coconut.

Arenga westerhoutii is a single-stemmed palm.

@Xenon and @Robert Cade Ross I totally disagree, they are massive and with its spread it looks so jungly. I think why grow an ORDINARY, BORING and UGLY Coconut palm when you can have a Beccariophoenix instead. As well Florida Bismarckia do look better than Texas ones, I have to be truthful. @Merlyn I agree with you as much as I try to like Phoenix palms I think they're generally pretty ugly. To me its a desert plant and I like the look of a lush rainforest. And way too stabby.

We planted out a triple from Lowe's last summer. Even here in SF, it is yellowing quite a bit. We had an unusually sunny May so all the palms (Geonoma, Rhopie, Hedy etc.) have been affected to some degree. I actually planted the kings to eventually provide afternoon shade for the others so I expect they will grow out of it. In the meantime, yeah lots of water.

We have been pulling our Dymondia as it appears to be irresistible to gophers. They fight through the mesh we have over the entire front and back gardens to get to it. The Dymondia also outcompetes a lot of neighboring plants, and the rats dig into it to get the grubs that live there. Other than that it is great 🤣 Too bad as it is a reliable ground cover here and the flowers are attractive.

I must agree lol .

I like Bismarckia a lot as I have 3 of them. Unfortunately I just learned that we've had our first confirmed case of lethal bronzing in Bismarckia here in Texas. I'd hate to have that spread to my property.

Here's my "Lisa" from local grower @chuckg. I planted it in late 2023 from (I think) a 7g pot: And here it is a couple of weeks ago. Some of the older fronds ended up more "split" than normal because of two hurricanes last summer:

Bismarckias in florida look a lot better than the texas ones,. As far as bismarckia being less attractive than C. fallaensis, you can say that about 99% of fan palms. What bismarckias do that C fallaensis does do is fast growth, way less susceptivility to nutrient deficiencies, and my white bismarckia is bright in moonlight, lights up the yard, very ghostly. Yeah I'd be lying if I said I like bismarclkia better, C Fallaensis is my favorite fan palm in my yard. I do like diversity int he landscape and my bismarckia is the whitest palm out there, a great companion for fallaensis like my green baileyana. If I were to recommend a big fan palm to a relatively inexperienced grower I would not hesitate to recommend the bismarckia. The cuban copernicias can get K. deficiency and take a year or more to pull out of it. In high drainage soil in a wet climate, an osmotic release fertilizer is almost a must for those cubans to prevent K deficiency, they are the most susceptible to K deficiency of any palm in my yard by far.. Fallaensis is also a few degrees less cold hardy than bismarckia and cold damage will take quite a bit longer to recover with the Fallaensis. If you do buy a bizzie, dont buy the biggest one, buy the one with purple or reddish color on the petioles as they will be more whitish.

…and in good company , I see! Lovely spot Jim. Harry

Yes , winter is the time thing slow a bit around here . I had lost palms before and it happens but I hope those survive . They are nice little gems. Harry

I am so glad this palm is still hanging in there. At this stage , it would be safe to say the transplant is working. I hope it has shown signs of growth . If so , the roots are taking hold . I would leave the stakes if you have very much wind , typically, in Winter. Howea generate most new roots in Spring but don’t suffer root die back like some palms. My only fear at this point would be a strong wind toppling it over . It’s your call but if it was my palm , I would leave it staked just a while longer, maybe until spring . Harry

Looks a bit atypical but I think it’s Archontophoenix alexandrae.

Thank you. It does have wriggle room and has sway allowance. Per image, she has a 3.5m trunk.

Use the force Luke!……. oops Harry Richard 🤣

Rain or shine, this spot works. IMG_1730.mov

If at all leave it loosely stacked. Let the palm decide when it’s ready. Most trees when you stake them you dont make a rigid staked tree leave room for some movement, that way the tree will anchor its roots better strengthening each time movement happens.

Yeah I just wanted to put that out there. I don’t really think feral cats or any other animal would even try to be honest. I’m pretty sure the big seeds look appealing to dogs for some reason and they end up being their final meals. My cat likes to mess with some of my indoor plants , but she does mostly to be annoying. She bites stuff sometimes so I avoid anything super toxic. Had to evict my zz plant one time bc the cat started throwing up after biting the leaves, but my cat learned her lesson and I brought the plant back in lol.

Not telling . It is not palm fronds! Harry

Patience Grasshopper! …… Oops wrong movie!🤔 Harry

I will be under your expert guidance. I will be Luke Skywalker to your Yoda, instead of just guessing lol. Hey I've come a long way for someone who's only been doing this for 4 years.

Try growing an Oraniopsis appendiculata there slow.

Despite my trimming I didn't defeat a tangled flush. Ironically, the tangle is in the main caudex flushing on my Cycas thouarsii × cupida. The trimming probably did help the flushes on all the pups though.