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We have been building this home for what feels like forever and have finally been turned loose to start on the landscaping. This is the result of 3 days of nonstop planting. A few more exotic palms to come still and a million understory filler pants but its a start.

I have 3 3year olds.

The last healthy Jubaea that I know about in Rome

Today I finally found one of the palms that inspired me to grow tropical species in my climate, a mature and flowering Veitchia arecina. 6 years ago in a summer 2017 afternoon when I was younger I remember passing by a mature Veitchia arecina and it surprised me, I immediately started searching for the name of the street to come back one day and see it again but I never found it and we never passed by that street again, I searched it for 3 years and never found it so after all of that I assumed that what I saw was an illusion or that I had actually seen the silhouette of a queen palm or royal palm, I was obsessed with crownshafted palms from 2017 to 2019 and I had 3 Adonidia merrillii in between those years which died from cold snaps and/or neglect. Today I was casually using google maps and I accidentally found it. The last street view is from 2019 so I don't know if it survived the 2021 freeze, but it seems to have been planted around 2013-16 so it survived multiple winters here and it looks very healthy, at least in the picture. I hope it's alive so I can see it again. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6963302,-100.3654536,3a,45.6y,154.15h,82.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8Awr3eoEAliy5vHsapJiUQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

And Veitchia joannis (I think) trying to get above the ginger.

Great, but the thing about Royals is once they get going they get huge fast, like, kinda surreal. Here's one of mine, planted back in 2004, when it was like 18" tall. I didn't plant it from seed, bought the baby at Home Depot for my fall birthday that year. (Getting old can be cool, sometimes!) Point being, it won't stay in your greenhouse for long, unless you've got like the Crystal Palace in UK.

This is black stem I got from Dave, not sure it was sourced from. Been a good grower so far, hasn't split yet for me. Sorry for the terrible lighting I tucked it in shade.

Hello all! I'm new here and just want to introduce myself. I'm a complete newbie to palms but living on the south coast of Oregon I find lots of various palms and ferns growing here and nowhere else in the state. So I have a Mexican fan palm, a trachycarpus fortunei, couple cordylines and a couple Tasmanian (dicksonia) tree ferns all less than 4 yrs in the ground. Also an umbrella palm (sedge) in the ground. I have a ponytail palm in a pot as well as a sago in a pot. So it should be fun checking in!

Looks like you got one of everything! Congratulations! You’re off to a lightning-fast jumpstart! Three things to consider when planting are sun tolerance, individual water needs, and mature frond lengths for crowding. Try to get your sun lovers and drought tolerant palms out in the open, blasted by sun, away from the water and shade lovers. Then group your water lovers in the wet areas so they can get blasted with irrigation without rotting anyone else out. Each spot in the yard has certain characteristics that might favor certain plants, and you can tailor your irrigation and bed amendments once you’ve got the sun spots picked out. Pseudophoenix Sargentii will like to be blasted by open sun, in alkaline soil, and will need to dry out. Satakentia will like to be watered every day to every other day, and might appreciate a little shade break at times. Chambeyronia macrocarpa will fry and die in full open Florida sun, but prosper in a moist shady spot when younger. Not sure about cold protection in 10a, but others can comment on that. What direction does the front of your lot face? When I first moved into my current house, I came from a condo, so we needed a lot of stuff for the inside. Some people advised taking it slow, as you don’t know what you’ll need or how things will exactly fit and flow, until you’ve lived there for a year or so. Since it was just before COVID hit, we took it slow on furnishings and arrangements…. by necessity, at the time. It worked out well. Same can be said about some of the outside plantings. You’ll get to know the yard, the sun movements during the year, the soil and moisture variations from spot to spot, etc…. Especially if you do your own yard maintenance…. You’ll know every blade of grass, and will notice things very early if there is a problem. Doing the understory, shrubs, and ground cover is just as fun as palms. Crotons, Ti, Philodendrons, and bromeliads can give you some color accents, leaf variations, and pizazz, but each type will need the same considerations mentioned above. Even boulders and borders can add a lot to the look. And not everyone will survive long term. Things will grow big and fast. Bigger and faster than you anticipated. Things will look a lot different in 2 years. Great place and house though. You’ve reached the fun stage. Even small plants will fill in quick in zone 10+. Crotons and bromeliads can be more addicting than palms

Such a great palm. If you can grow them it is a mus have

A must read on the genus ... http://www.marriedtoplants.com/palms/palm-tree-spotlight-dypsis-black-stem/

1 gallon size planted in May of 22. Growing nicely

Thank you! Im hoping to end up in South Florida and eventually follow my dream of opening up a palm nursery. Something i’ve always been considering for about a decade now.

Mine got beat up in the drought.

@nessa sorry to hear about the Fusarium outbreak, it is unfortunately common. The species that attacks Fusarium Queens also kills Washingtonia, but nothing else. I have seen entire rows of Mexican Fan palms (Washingtonia Robusta) die one after the next. The most likely culprit is that one was infected and the tree trimmers spread it down the line while cutting fronds. I personally had one Queen die from Fusarium, and conside myself lucky that the Queens on the other side of the house didn't catch it. Here's a UFL fact sheet on Fusarium: https://idtools.org/palm_symptoms/index.cfm?packageID=1111&entityID=3319 And another https://blogs.ifas.ufl.edu/miamidadeco/2018/10/26/fusarium-wilt-on-washingtonia-palms/

The hardest growing time for these is from seeds to 3 ft tall. Then they explode with growth rate, especially in the ground.

Yes, unless I sell it locally here in Bay Area. I also have 5-gallon Pritchardia martii and P. napaliensis needing homes elsewhere !

Pinanga maculata caught me eye today...

Best guess..cold damage over winter weakening that point and collapsing when it warms up or wind

Washy filibusta is an option . Protection is just incandescent Christmas lights wrapped by a layer or 2 of blankets . I like to mulch the bottom blanket to keep it sealed from air blowing up and under the blankets . Try to get one on the Filifera side with less Robusta . That way it won't get too tall too fast and it stays green into the teens . Mine has a lot of Robusta in it and it's getting tall and harder and harder to protect every winter that goes below 15F . I have 2 small ones that are hardy from seed collected from a palm in Fayetteville , NC , and while mine bronzes out at 23F , I think that those Fayetteville Filibustas will keep green fronds into the teens . Knikfar , who posts here , might have some for sale . He sold me my small Washys . Will My Washy below :

I also bought a pack of 10 seeds from RPS around the same time. Upon arrival of the seeds (11), they were cleaned with dilute bleach (30 min soak) and covered with water for 3d (changing water daily). One seed floated and looked "off". It was discarded and the remaing 10 seeds were germinated (beginning 22 July 2023). So far, 5/10 have sprouted but 2 died shortly after transplantation; two seeds have rotted and 3 may still germinate. One seedling shows beautiful colouration of what will become the stem/petiole (I know, it's subjective), while the 2 others are completely green. The two oldest seedlings are now unfolding their second juvenile leaf. Some snapshots from this morning:

I dare say that Royals, given optimal environmental conditions, are some of the fastest growing palms. As stated earlier in this thread: wet, wet, wet, hot, and sunny.

I was lucky enough to go on a few garden tours this weekend of some unbelievable yards. This is the first time I’ve seen a much coveted (to me) Wollemia nobilis. This was purchased from the original offering by National Geographic many years back.

I just drove by there on my way home and here's how they look now:

If all goes well, i’ll be living someplace much warmer in the next year or so and naturally all my plants will be coming with me = )

Will do fine ...and grow fairly fast.. in part shade ..or full sun of course. Tough, and pretty adaptable leafy buggers.

This is a small bulb from South Africa around the cape. This is the time of year it blooms. Kinda rare I think? This one is growing under grow lights so may not be as vivid colors as ones grown in sun.

Sure do thats why I planted a latania and a hurricane palm which will take 24 feet to reach the power lines. That is near max height in their native habitat and unikely to ever happen here. Palms grow up vertically so more space emerges at ground level as they grow.

The palm referenced in my previous post on Christmas Eve 2023:

Ha ha! I have done the same thing! The fruits are so small - they're easy to loose track of. The desert Phoenix palm seeds remain viable for many years but roebelenii are not desert palms. I don't know how long they were subject to freezing temps but it may not have hurt them too much. It won't hurt to try.

So you've been driving around for years with so many palm seeds you forgot where they even were? Nice! Award!

Better than average crop this year due to a warmer than normal winter so far. Only 6 starter plants of 'celebrity' planted mid August,first ripe fruit mid November, have continued to supply fruits for us,friends,and neighbors. Still over 100 green fruits waiting their turn to ripen! 🍅 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Bump! An update on these beautiful palms. Been seeding for years now and I’ve gifted many seedlings. I recently removed one and replanted an offspring. What’s nice about these palms is they don’t get very tall and retain those big ruffled leaves. Tim

Here are some palms i was able to take a picture of while I was in Texas for a couple of days: Decent sized Trachy: Dead Sabal: Small Trachy and Yuccas: The other small Trachy: Two tall Trachys next to a building: More tall Trachys near a building:

Slow but steady with this beautiful palm. Full sun, good drainage, and plenty of water makes it happy. In many respects, other than the stilt roots, it looks like it shares similarities with Verschaffeltia. Makes sense, but that's just an observation. This one was planted about five years ago from a two gallon pot. Tim

this might be a stupid question but a few years ago i collected a ton of pygmy date seeds and threw them in my car and totally forget about them until recently. Its been a few years so they've been through a few winters in my car, but nothing below 18F. Is there a chance these could still be viable after this? or should I just toss them?

Beautiful palm with excellent siting. Should be bulletproof there.

I can't answer the question. But I have always blamed my wife for my missing seeds. Maybe I need to check my truck?

Dictyosperma album var. conjugatum

A picture would help ... How tall are they in what time period? 1ft,2ft,3ft? Royals grown entirely outside in my less than optimum conditions reach 3-4 ft tall in 3 or 4 years from seed. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

How many hrs light are they getting? They grow like rockets in summer heat

S. minor is commonly called dwarf palmetto and is in fact the smallest of the Sabal species. But there is a whole bunch of varieties of Sabal minor of which "Louisiana" is one of the larger varieties. There are also dwarf dwarf palmetto ie. dwarf Sabal minor.

I think it's also worth mentioning that many 9B areas have just been reassigned to 10A in Florida.

Fort William sounds like here. Summer got up and ran away.

12.7C / 55F here at 2:30am. Expecting a max of about 14C / 57F later on Tuesday. Still very mild here. This will be the last of the mega mild nights however. Tomorrow will also be the last mega mild day. After weeks of above average temps, especially at night, it will all be going downhill from Wednesday onwards really. Likely down to single digit highs by Friday and potentially frosts by Sunday. I haven't had a frost in my rural, inland location for a whole month now, since 3rd December. January will need watching as there is the potential for quite a significant freeze event on both sides of the Atlantic! 👀

January 1 2024 update. Happy new year everyone! Today was warm and sunny but these past few days have been quite chilly during the day with highs around 64f and no sun. In my experiences as long as the sun is out the days high temps will be good. Regardless, from yard coco has been looking good and it’s farther along pushing out its newest frond. If you compare with the pic above (two weeks prior) you can seen it’s growing quite rapidly compared to before (October-November). I can only guess that maybe it is because the night temps have been much higher lately around mid 50’s for almost the entirely of December where it was low 50’s occasionally dipping into higher 40’s in much of late fall. I also clipped two old fronds and will clips 2 more eventually. As far as the not yet in ground cocos, they’re each their own situation. I bought a new one (middle one) and it just arrived. It has an extensive root system which is exciting, I will put it in ground south facing in the front yard as well. The far right one is by far my favorite coco and I will plant it in ground within the greenhouse maybe in 2 months. The far left coco is not looking good, it seems like it might be a dud. It is still growing but the leaves are so small and slow. I’ll probably plant it in the understory of my wax Jambu tree in spring and so it’s ugliness can be kept at bay and maybe in the meanwhile it will surprise me. (Or not💀) All the cocos have their own personalities and growth habits so it really shows we need quite a few to guarantee a prime tree. The forecast for the upcoming week looks brutal but I’ll believe it when I see it.

There are still some dactylifera around my area of San Antonio (Alamo Heights/Broadway/Mahncke Park). I'd guess about 50% died in the great freeze, so it seems they did better than robusta. There were some notable plantings of very large dactylifera that ALL died. Here is one such group planted on E. Mulberry Ave, that appeared to have been planted around 2016 that all perished... :(. They have since been replaced by S. palmettos. https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4527955,-98.4673732,3a,75y,321.72h,95.82t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5E-SsOxBf_bybOg42aRdeQ!2e0!5s20210201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu Another good-size grouping was at The Broadway Condominiums at the corner of Hildebrand and Broadway. They had also been around for many years prior to being wiped out in Feb 2021. They have since been replaced by S. mexicana. https://www.google.com/maps/@29.465702,-98.4627002,3a,75y,196.86h,87.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sexi1oNqqR7ANFKFcHxhx1w!2e0!5s20210201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu Here is an example of a few Dates that survived the recent freezes: 203 Arcadia Pl, Alamo Heights https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4759458,-98.4599096,3a,75y,3.13h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syvSZXADfnlfw4X3j_FnREQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu Not dactylifera, but this grouping of Sylvestris was planted in 2022, prior to the Christmas freeze and I believe they all survived and are doing well: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.401901,-98.4863437,3a,60y,62.44h,88.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGu0HjeXEYfirYmLCyUO09A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu Happy New Year! -Chris

Tim I missed this topic before. What a beauty! I have three, none as big as yours. Mine have been subjected to being obtained as tiny seedlings years ago and rudely plopped in the ground at my old farm only to be dug up and put in a pot here last year. Now they are recovering from too much sun planted post hurricane Maria, but seem content in (I hope) their final location! One has the really dark new leaf like yours does and the other two have the bright orange accents lacking in the one with the dark leaf. Has any one else noticed this? First I show a view looking down on the one with the dark new leaf in the foreground. Next there is my largest one, still tiny compared to Tim's. Perhaps I just don't recall the color of its new leaves, but that seems unlikely. I see no hint of orange in the dark leaved one except some bits of my orange clay. Next the underneath side and a closeup of the stem plus more leaf shots. My smallest shows the orange too. Easy to see on this one. Tim, I would love to see an update on yours and would appreciate any comments from anyone on the difference in colors on mine.

Here's the new leaf, which was taken a couple years ago. Almost impossible to photograph these days. Tim