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Got this beauty from the local hardware store , they had one with 7' of trunk but despite much pleading refused to sell me the big one ( display fern ) . Apparently they are one of the fastest growing tree ferns and in my opinion one of the most stunning. The black Tree fern is also native to the Chatham Islands . How do they go planted in full sun ?? My latest addition ! A mature specimen

lol @ Jeff. Actually that was quite painful to see happen. Axel-maybe I am the only one here who feels this way, but you definitely confuse me. After just reading that you don't care about accuracy in here, and that "most of what I write is total bs" after reading post after post of yours where you make these sweeping generalizations like they are facts or getting scientific in your posts and at least trying to sound experienced in palm growing......man-I am floored. I am not trying to be mean here-but I do care about accuracy-to the extent that one can be. There is a lot of snark in here for sure-but not when one is trying to find out how palms are going to grow in certain areas etc and why they do well or not. Also accuracy is good when trying to figure out why a palm is having problems etc. I just think you should think about that statement " probably most of what I write is total bs" some more and see if you really want to be know as full of it-cause to me, you just threw any credibility out the door. I read all your posts in the last few days, and I can't think of who you are referring to when you say that a person attacked your character, hitting below the belt etc. I didn't see any of that. I saw people being honest with you -and I think that they were calling you out on your bs-which you just readily admitted to being full of. That happens when you are full of crap and try to act like you are not-you have to know that, right? Again, I am not trying to be mean, just being honest. There were two people that were both very honest with you, Len and Matt and they both have my respect and appreciation. I actually can't think of a person on this forum that has a larger heart and is full of kindness than Matt. I have total respect for Len, when he says something, I listen and when you disagree with him, he has the ability to come around if he is wrong and he learns that way. I really hope it wasn't either of them that you were complaining about. Anyway, I hope you enjoy your time with your son-I am sure that he is happy to spend extra time with you!

I appreciate the friendly comments, and I appreciate that the moderators did finally get around to deleting the negative character reference comments. It's really stupid of me to leave just because of one bad apple. But I actually do need to spend a little more time in the real world. 4th of July is around the corner, and I need to spend more time with my son and plant a few more palms. So I will still take a break from PalmTalk. I don't mind snarky comments, never had an issue with Len disagreeing with me. One person in particular really went overboard with negative character references. Just FYI, I really don't care to be accurate in my posts. For me, palm growing is like fishing. The fish gets bigger with every story. I have to be accurate in my job at work, my palm garden is where I can do away with all the precision and science. I post mostly because I like to talk and I like to write. A lot of what I write is probably total bs, and it's really up to the reader to discern, and anyone should feel free to call me on my bs, but making it about my character is just low. I really enjoy the palm community, I had almost a hundred people at my house for the NCPS meeting. Everyone's house I've been to has also been incredibly welcome. Getting behind a keyboard is a bit like getting in a car for some people, they're different in real life, I guess I just need to take that into account. And I'd love to take you up on the beer offer, Bob. So farewell for now, see ya after the holidays.

There is a reason we chose "Ohana Nui" (Hawaiian for "Extended Family") as the name for our off-topic forum. Because like in a family (or with close friends) we sometimes "raz" those we feel the closest to. And when on a sports team, in a fraternity, the military, etc. - it's when you don't get "picked on" that you should feel left out and "unappreciated." Some people have left PT because they felt they didn't get enough people to comment on their posts. So it's ironic that you should take the extra attention your posts seem to generate as a negative - instead of interpreting it as people's interest in wanting to agree with or challenge what you have said. Granted, not everyone here is smooth and polished when it comes to social graces. But I think it is safe to say there is not a person who has replied to you who would not welcome you to their garden and discuss palms for hours in person. It's unfortunate that the written format leaves a lot of that sentiment lost in translation.

Pretty sure that's a bouncing baby Copernicia baileyana. Teeth on the alba are much further apart. aztropic Mesa,Arizona

Wild guess: Copernicia alba.

Ok time for an update here is my Cyathea medullaris 2.5 yrs later The fence is almost 6 ft . The small tree fern to the right is Cyathea robusta from Lord Howe Island .

Most of our Mules at FSU are in planters now-but we will be adding more to our campus landscapes for sure! Here is a shot of one of the Oglesby Union planters with a young Mule in the front.

As mentioned, Butias are a pain to mow around if they are in a lawn area. The fronds tend to arch and the tip of the fronds touch the ground in their younger years. They seem to thrive in my adobe clay and are well suited for my chilly winters and hot summers. They do best in the ground and once a container is filled with roots, they don't increase is size very much, and if left in the container for to long they become stunted. For hardy container palms I've found Serenoa and Chamaerops to look very nice for many years. Dick