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Happy Birthday Jeff! Sorry, you have to work so hard at the Palm Sale. Lots of plants to load at the end of the day. I am sure Andrea will have a nice drink and dinner waiting for you when you get home. Kindest regards, Ron.

Fair is fair enough! Now I feel aggravated and I live in Florida! Sales like that sometimes has the Salesman swimming with the alligators here.

Michel, Kev Spence posted that photo HERE. I believe it was taken in Portugal. Mats If it is a photo from Portugal, it is very clear. It is what I told you, an infested palm in phase of recovering. We have trained professionals there and in many places mechanical sanitation has been adopted. I attach some photos of a palm recovering after sanitation: - first photo just before sanitation all the leaves of the internal and middle crowns of one side of the palm drooped - 09/09/09 just after sanitation - 09/05/12 - 09/07/13 - 09/10/23

Michel, are the emergent fronds (either chewed or deformed) on this picture a possible indication of weevils? Is this an example of what we should be looking for?

Its a nasty beastie Charles and certainly makes quick work of palm's this was just a year ago and all looks fine. Do you not think further down the trunk the weevils could still be there? I remember taking these pics in your area I bet all those Phoenix growing in a close circle are done for as well....how has Antonio managed?

as you can see the phoenix canariensis no longer the central part,has this happened in 4 days!,

as you can see the phoenix canariensis no longer the central part, has this happened in 4 days!,

HAPY BIRTHDAY JEFF! Randy

Fair is fair enough!

Vincent could redeem himself by offering to sell another dyer for $175 to BS man.

neither do i.

I a few questions. Is this palm still available at your nursery. What growing conidtions does this palm require?

Not unexpectedly, quite a bit of confusion here, and no definite answers in sight. This is what I can add: I bought a few of these from Palms of Paradise in Hilo many years ago. They were sold to me as Licuala naumannii and that was the name I used for many years. Until I checked the Kew site and found out that there's no such name. Despite what has been said earlier in this thread regarding this name I tend to go by Kew's list. Dransfield has worked at Kew for many years and he has been instrumental in describing many of these species. If Kew doesn't recognize a particular name (like L. naumannii) then I have to assume there's a very good reason for this. Reason being, in this case, no Licuala has ever been described using this name. When I found out that naumannii is not a valid name, and has never been a valid name, I made an assumption (and we all know that assumptions are not good! ) - I assumed the palms I had bought from Palms of Paradise were, in fact, L. naumoniensis. Maybe they are - maybe they're not. At this point I really don't know. All I know is that these are small palms. They don't seem to get much above 6 ft/2 m. in height, even after many years. One very important aspect - it seems many of you get "distracted" by the shape of the leaflets. BIG mistake. Lots of variability, even on the very same palm. Some fronds has a wide central leaflet and some don't. Some has a lot of open space at the "bottom" of the frond (where it connects to the petiole) and some don't. Many times on the same palm. And I would never refer to these as "miniature ramsayis". Any L. ramsayi will have much wider leaflets. And I'm not talking about the size itself, but simply the fact that many ramsyi leaflets are more "entire" in their appearance. Not so with this little palm, whether it's a naumoniensis or not. Much more separation and less "entireness".

Here are a couple of photos. Kerriodoxas can take full sun but will always look better in partial shade.

Lee, Here's a photo I took two months ago of the largest one we have in the garden! Cute lttle things! Bo-Göran