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How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
sonoranfans replied to DoomsDave's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Those are massive and pretty close to the house! I had a thought that you could pre drill a few holes and put copper nails in the trunks. I have killed a ficus benjamina stump that wouldn't die with stump rot etc this way. It kept coming back till I put the copper nails in. It took a few months to kill it, now Im waiting for the rot to set in. The Cu nails themselves will need a hole drilled as they are mostly copper and not stout like iron nails. I purchased them on amazon. Dave, I remember your archies from 15 years ago, I didnt realize they got this big! I will cut back fertilizer and irrigation water on mine. I see royals come down here after drying out, seems like they dont topple but just waste away. A dry palm is likely less than 1/3rd the weight of a live one. Might be better to let them dry out before felling them. It does prevent a garden redo for years I expect. After seeing these pics I am looking around my yard at what will one day come down. I used to think I wanted fast growing big tall palms, at some point my view changed due to aesthetics, but now safety and removal are looming larger. - Today
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Blue Chrysalidocarpus decipiens from Floribunda
Jonathan replied to tinman10101's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Ditto to that sentiment! I'm surprised they're not here already...but there's a few gaps in Australia that are a bit inexplicable. -
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Blue Chrysalidocarpus decipiens from Floribunda
tim_brissy_13 replied to tinman10101's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Would love to grow this. The ABG one above and a few others I saw at Landsendt and in Kerikeri were absolute beasts. Photos don’t do them justice. If you look closely at my photo above, you can see how small it makes the nearby Sabal look. Really the only reason we’re not growing it is lack of seed I guess. I can’t say I’ve seen a single specimen in Aus although I’m sure they must be around. @richnorm if there’s any access to seed over there we’d certainly love there over this side of the ditch! -
Blue Chrysalidocarpus decipiens from Floribunda
Jonathan replied to tinman10101's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Huh! Who knew...why aren't we growing this one @tim_brissy_13? Thanks for the information guys. -
It’s actually one hybrid that I like the look of. Alas iam not a fan of hybrids. But I can see why a lot of growers like them. Just giving you seeds is a great joy, to see seeds from my garden grow overseas is a great joy. I ask for nothing in return. But iam sure we could trade palms if we were neighbours!
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ZPalms replied to PALM MOD's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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Any information on Arenga nana out there?
happypalms replied to happypalms's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Nice one gyuseppe! -
How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
happypalms replied to DoomsDave's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Tricky an organic method to kill a palm. High salt solution is one way! I trust you want to keep your soil organic and not use a herbicide. I do know with bananas they use diesel injected into the suckers to kill them. But I don’t think this is the sort of thing you’d want in your soil. Just overfertilise it with some prilled urea!!! -
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So What Caught Your Eye Today?
gyuseppe replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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My Brahea Armata to bloom for the first time!
DoomsDave replied to Neel's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Damn; not fast! But worth the wait! -
How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
DoomsDave replied to DoomsDave's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Well it’s a lot more than it used to be and I want to DIY this. -
How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
richnorm replied to DoomsDave's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Yikes! They're so much bigger on the ground! I have an 8 metre pole saw, long ladders and climbing ropes to deal with trees without branches crashing down onto plantings below. I tie off (which sometimes requires climbing) then cut and lower in manageable sections. I don't think killing the palm would save much weight. If in doubt just write the cheque! -
Growing Washingtonia filifera in Phoenix.
Silas_Sancona replied to tmiller0421's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Can vary specimen to specimen, but, ..what i've noticed at least, trunks thicken as they gain height.. Have many in my neighborhood here in Chandler and even the younger / smaller - sized specimens have a very obvious thick trunk compared to Mex Fans. Absolutely no issues in 9b.. Many people here on the forum from New Mexico ..and some cooler ..like 9a.. areas in other parts of the country grow them w/ out too much trouble. FYI, if looking at other palm options in addition to the filifera ..in the future? Brahea sp. ...and Sabal uresana, our regionally native Palmetto sp. laugh at any cold they might see in 9b areas of the valley /nearby. Boyce Thompson Arboretum, if you haven't been up there, Tohono Chul Park, and the UofA Campus Arboretum in Tucson have plenty of those to check out in person, to get an idea of what they look like / size/ etc.. if they interest you. Like most things, given more water as they grow, the faster they will grow.. That said, even the smaller specimens in my neighborhood grow at a decent pace w/ out any extra water ..and look good. Honestly, have never estimated how much height the ones in my neighborhood have grown in the 10 years here, but, ..definitely noticeable. As mentioned above, more water you provide, even after they're well established, quicker they'll gain height. ..And yes, lol.. they can take a good amount of water, esp. this time of year. Some really nice specimens worth checking out whose roots are literally in water are located in a park, up near N/ Tempe / S.W. Scottsdale. ..A couple shot of some of them. ...Another great place to check out, if you're ever in the area? Agua Caliente Park, located in the Tanque Verde area east of downtown Tucson.. Lots of Mex Fans, and crosses between it and filifera, but some good looking, pure filifera there too. -
How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
DoomsDave replied to DoomsDave's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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My Brahea Armata to bloom for the first time!
Harry’s Palms replied to Neel's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Beautiful palm . The inflorescence will envelope that palm when they developed. Harry -
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MrTropical replied to MrTropical's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I intend to keep zone-pushing palms to a minimum, but I did want to try a Pygmy Date here in NW Florida… -
So What Caught Your Eye Today?
realarch replied to The Gerg's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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Growing Washingtonia filifera in Phoenix.
tmiller0421 replied to tmiller0421's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Awesome appreciate the advice friend, I went out and marked with them sharpies and will keep doing what I am doing. Some other questions I have if you or anyone else can answer them: Will they get thicker at the trunk first before getting taller? Or will they get taller before getting thicker at the trunk? Anything I should know about growing them in Zone: 9b? Will they still need the same amount of watering once they are established? Would having the same watering help them grow more? How tall do they grow a year once established? I know these palms get huge, I saw them at the Hassayampa River Preserve in Wickenburg Arizona recently. -
How to kill a palm to more easily edit it
DoomsDave posted a topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Happy Mothers Day in the US. It’s been a mother of a day here in La Habra; tried to remove an Archontophoenix maxima and it fell the wrong way, and hassles ensued dealing with it. I have other Archontophoenix I want to remove, and I’d like to kill them first, then wait for them to dry out at which point they lose 90-95% of live weight and become MUCH safer to handle. One method suggested is to use a very high salt saline solution funneled into holes drilled in the trunk. Any thoughts, experiences to share? -
A place up my way shows stock of Bismarkia. If anyone is looking to throw away a couple hundred dollars on a beautiful blue palm, let me know.
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My Brahea Armata to bloom for the first time!
SeanK replied to Neel's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Congratulations! These are beautiful palms and a big investment in time and money. -
Growing Washingtonia filifera in Phoenix.
Silas_Sancona replied to tmiller0421's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
You're doing exactly as you should ...Keep moist, but not waterlogged.. ..Deep watering, 2x a week right now ..Emphasize deep ..which means putting the hose next to them and letting it trickle for 30+ mins. Morning or evening is better than mid - day. Yellowing you're seeing is perfectly natural right now as well, esp. if these came from a nursery where they were grown under some deg. of shade cloth. .. Kept moist, they'll start pushing out of that / push better looking fronds once we reach Monsoon season and the heat isn't quite as brutal / air holds more humidity ...and they get some natural agua, ..hopefully, lol. Regardless, it takes about a year for new roots to really start digging in. If you have access to any, you can take leaf duff from below Mesquites and pile it around the bases ..staying a few inches clear of the trunk(s). ..Will help keep moisture in the soil, and slowly release nutrients. Other than that?.. Since they don't have established root systems yet, no strong fertilizers. A: they won't utilize any of it, so if you applied any now, it will be wasted effort and $$.. B: salts in non- natural fert sources ..or improperly cured organics like Manure, can burn root tips. Have a sharpie? mark the base of newest spear poking out from the center of the crown and watch how quickly ..or not.. in moves. That will provide good hints regarding how well they're settling in.. Good luck
