I will say this Geonomas are really starting to impress me in the cool tolerance range.

Quite rare palms in this part of the world, but after getting my hands on a few different varieties they are proving to be very cool tolerant, not to bad for palms that are prized ornamentals.

Cool tolerance is one thing they need to be to survive in my winter and grow well. Another issue is water they drink like a drowning fish. So if they are to live in the ground it’s going to have to be some pretty good soil amendment landscaping duties.

And these are tube stock seedlings not advanced palms, so iam impressed with how well they take 2 degrees celcius Geonoma pycnostachys Geonoma look longivaginata sub sp vallensGeonoma atrovirens Geonoma bondaria

Richard, no possible to grow genoma here, but I can grow many other species including your beloved chamaedorea, and even your favorites: Phoenix !, if you change your mind about phoenix, I can always try sending you my phoenix rupicola seeds when they mature.

Gorgeous palms you have, Richard! Geonoma bondariana and G. schottiana do well in my Mediterranean type climate but G. undata needs a much cooler climate than my coastal valley location can provide. Mine would only grow in the winter and then languish in the summer even though it’s rarely hot here. After five years in the ground in full shade, it finally gave up. It was just showing a ruby red crownshaft on its little trunk too. 😥

20 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, no possible to grow genoma here, but I can grow many other species including your beloved chamaedorea, and even your favorites: Phoenix !, if you change your mind about phoenix, I can always try sending you my phoenix rupicola seeds when they mature.

Don’t worry gyuseppe theres a lot of palms i cant grow either!

Those Phoenix and there big spines that get you when you even when look at them.

10 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Gorgeous palms you have, Richard! Geonoma bondariana and G. schottiana do well in my Mediterranean type climate but G. undata needs a much cooler climate than my coastal valley location can provide. Mine would only grow in the winter and then languish in the summer even though it’s rarely hot here. After five years in the ground in full shade, it finally gave up. It was just showing a ruby red crownshaft on its little trunk too. 😥

They are interesting palms I will say that, it’s not the cool weather that gets them rather the heat that fry’s them. You sound like you have given them a run for their money in trying them out. We all can create that microclimate but the day we go on holidays or sell up and move the odds are stacked against such beautiful palms we have managed to grow. But it’s most definitely not from lack of trying. I doubt my atrovirens will go in the ground, to rare and I know my climate can go into severe drought at times.

Oh the woes of palm growing!

We are having ideal Geonoma weather here. 62 degree highs, soaking wet mornings thanks to heavy fog and mist, a real rain forest. The Geonoma undata has never been happier and now it’s big enough that the slugs don’t bother it too much. (The Lepidorrachis obtained from Darold last winter is pretty happy too.)

8 hours ago, Foggy Paul said:

We are having ideal Geonoma weather here. 62 degree highs, soaking wet mornings thanks to heavy fog and mist, a real rain forest. The Geonoma undata has never been happier and now it’s big enough that the slugs don’t bother it too much. (The Lepidorrachis obtained from Darold last winter is pretty happy too.)

They seem to prefer wet high humidity conditions, the cool conditions is a great bonus for growing them out of there habitat. It took me a couple of loses in growing them before I worked them out, the same with iguanura palms. I have managed to germinate a few Geonoma weberbauri from rps and it looks like iam having good luck so far with them popping up with more on the way.

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

They seem to prefer wet high humidity conditions, the cool conditions is a great bonus for growing them out of there habitat. It took me a couple of loses in growing them before I worked them out, the same with iguanura palms. I have managed to germinate a few Geonoma weberbauri from rps and it looks like iam having good luck so far with them popping up with more on the way.

Be careful not to paint them all with the same brush. G undata subsp undata (G weberbaueri) will be very tricky in summer for you. Hates consistent heat. Will need the coolest, wettest spot to be a chance. Most Geonoma are very tropical and will love the heat as long as the moisture is kept up.

30 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Be careful not to paint them all with the same brush. G undata subsp undata (G weberbaueri) will be very tricky in summer for you. Hates consistent heat. Will need the coolest, wettest spot to be a chance. Most Geonoma are very tropical and will love the heat as long as the moisture is kept up.

I was expecting that, pretty well much not a chance in the ground in my climate. And one cool greenhouse in the shade may get built for just such palms in the low area of my property. Crazy to think I would be going for a that sort of greenhouse, go for 90 percent shade cloth 😂 A container palm for those Southern growing Tasmaniacs and the Mexicans south of the border!